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Rise in anti-Muslim attacks
The Sunday Times ^ | July 17, 2005 | Dipesh Gadher

Posted on 07/16/2005 3:44:05 PM PDT by MadIvan

About 500 faith-hate and race-hate crimes — ranging from arson attacks on mosques to Muslim women being spat at in the street — have been reported in Britain since the London bombings, writes Dipesh Gadher.

According to police sources, about 200 of these incidents are deemed significant enough to have potential repercussions within communities.

They include mosques being set alight in Birkenhead, Merseyside, Telford, Shropshire and Leeds.

“We have definitely seen a spike, but these are not co-ordinated incidents,” said Assistant Chief Constable Rob Beckley, head of the Association of Chief Police Officers’ community tensions team. The authorities normally deal with about 50-60 similar incidents a week.

Beckley said police forces were “busting a gut” to respond to the crimes and were making swift arrests in many cases. However, he remained concerned that “a catalytic incident” could trigger something far more serious, such as a full-blown race riot.

Muslim leaders have called for calm and have unequivocally condemned the London attacks. But last week they were criticised for failing to do enough to confront extremists within their own community.

“We have reached a dangerous crossroads and the direction we choose will prove to be a defining moment in our history,” said Shahid Malik, the Labour MP for Dewsbury, home to one of the bombers.

“The knowledge that the bombers were British Muslims . . . has sent us a signal we can no longer ignore, that there is indeed an ‘enemy within’,” he said. “The battle for the soul of the community has begun.”

Tony Blair has invited Muslim leaders to a “crisis” summit on Tuesday to help him “pull up this evil ideology by its roots”.

Under new laws, preachers such as Yusuf al-Qaradawi — who has condoned child suicide bombers — denied entry into America and other European Union countries would face automatic exclusion from Britain.

Charles Clarke, the home secretary, is reviewing his powers to deport foreigners and impose specific conditions on asylum seekers. A separate consultation is just ending on whether imams coming to Britain should have a professional qualification and understand English.

A counter-terrorism bill due in the autumn will create a new offence of “glorifying or endorsing” terrorism. Two further offences being drawn up by the Home Office will mean extremists who provide or receive terrorist training would face prosecution, as would those committing “acts preparatory to terrorism”, such as fund-raising or providing safe houses.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
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To: MadIvan
I am concerned this situation may slide into anarchy.

Please don't take this the wrong way, but a little anarchy may be needed to see the foe we are all up against.

I'm waiting for our anarchy to start here and I'm 'not' dreading it.

81 posted on 07/16/2005 8:50:21 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: MadIvan
No, I believe that this could lead to open violence on the streets of Britain. I don't want that any more than you lot wanted the LA Riots years ago.

Those weren't religious. That makes all the difference.

82 posted on 07/16/2005 8:51:40 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: MadIvan
Recently, here in VA, someone left a burnt koran on the doorstep of a masque. Local politicians and law enforcement had their panties in a bunch, believing it to be a "hate crime", all this on the heals of the koran desecration claims at Gitmo. Turns out that it was left by a student going back to Pakistan, it was damaged in a house fire, and he wanted it disposed of in an "approved" way.

(I wonder if the same politicians and law enforcement officials would do the same for a burnt Bible left on a church step....)
83 posted on 07/16/2005 8:58:33 PM PDT by dirtbiker (Solution for Terrorism: Nuke 'em 'till they glow, then shoot 'em in the dark!)
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To: MadIvan

It's hard to kow how far this would go. We had our own retaliation crimes after 9/11. Some poor Seik was murdered in cold blood in Arizona. Fortunately, this kind of thing was not rampant.


84 posted on 07/16/2005 9:11:03 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: Publius6961
sandmaggot

LOL

Ah, is that from Shakespeare? It's kinda catchy. ;o)

85 posted on 07/16/2005 9:17:55 PM PDT by yooling (A Møøse once bit my sister...)
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To: DTogo

Before it can be invigorated, Pope Benedict XVI needs to call the next crusade..


86 posted on 07/16/2005 11:41:26 PM PDT by Schwaeky ("Truth is not determined by a majority vote" Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: Leapfrog

Thank you for pointing that out. Not just Wahabbism (though it too is), not just Al Qaeda (though it too is), not just the PLO, etc, but Islam, period, is the enemy...


87 posted on 07/16/2005 11:46:18 PM PDT by Schwaeky ("Truth is not determined by a majority vote" Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: MadIvan
I did,and you are right.

If there is another terrorist attack and anarchy is the result Blair and the labor government knows the blame will be laid on their door steps.

88 posted on 07/17/2005 7:08:22 AM PDT by painter (We celebrate liberty which comes from God not from government.)
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To: ArmyTeach

Daughter of Britain? My as*.


89 posted on 07/17/2005 7:26:11 AM PDT by jwh_Denver (Looks like we're going to have start working for a new "What A Country"?)
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To: DTogo
Your "Final Crusade" sounds like Hitler's "Final Solution to the Jewish problem."
90 posted on 07/17/2005 7:32:56 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad

Yep, that's exactly what the Islamo-fascists have in mind for us Infidels: convert and submit, or die.


91 posted on 07/17/2005 7:58:45 AM PDT by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: stripes1776
stripes1776 writes:
I still haven't heard many people willing to ask the critical questions: is it possible for a medieval religion to integrate itself into Western society which through many bloody wars has for the most part succeeded in purging itself of medieval religious beliefs?
What is the average person supposed to do? Sit by passively while the governement lets more millions of Moslems immigrate to the West? If Moslems desire the material prosperity of the West, but detest our social values--equality for women, freedom of speech and religion, respect for individual rights and expression of thought, consensual secular government, then how is integration possible?

It took 37 postings before someone was able to cut through to the crux of the matter. Thanks, stripes1776.

Let me state for the record that I firmly and unchangeably believe that Muslim "integration" into Western societies and cultures is simply NOT possible. Not now. Not ever. NOT coming soon to a country near you.

Indeed, I recall reading - right here on FreeRepublic - quoted passages of the Quran that expressly _forbid_ Muslims from mixing with non-Muslims.

The West - and Christianity (along with its predecessor, Judaism) - represents freedom. It represents respect for the individual. It represents tolerance - the very "tolerance" of non-Western movements in our midst which will seek to destroy us.

Islam represents submission to a quasi-facist religious/state. Individual "freedom" is discouraged (just look at that frequently-posted pic of Islamic women, all-identical in their black coverings). Everything that we embrace in the West true Islamics despise.

The two cultures are, by their nature - by every parameter of measure - incompatible. They cannot be _made_ compatible. They must forever remain at odds.

Islam openly touts how it intends to rule the earth. To gain that goal, it will crush the West out of existence by any means possible. They'll use nuclear weapons once the right (read: determined) Islamics possess them. But perhaps their most potent weapon is DEMOGRAPHICS. If not by force of arms, they intend to overwhelm us by force of numbers.

And, with the passage of time, they slip into our midst. We see this in the burgeoning Muslim populations in Europe, and even here in the United States and Canada.

But still, there is no "integration". There is only self-isolation (remember again, Islamics are forbidden to assimilate by Islam itself). And, with that, there is also - even among the [so-called] "peaceful" Islamics - silent smiles and head-nodding whenever a blow is struck "for the cause" against the hated West.

I believe that if we of the West are indeed engaged in a total war with Islam (do YOU believe that, dear reader?), the West _cannot_ win if it restrains itself to fighting that war based solely on "western principles" of engagement. The other side will use ANY means possible to defeat us. For them, the end justifies the means. If WE are to win, we will not do so until we drop the pretenses of being to "civilised" about our cause and display a [regretful] willingness to engage the enemy on THEIR terms. Doing anything less will be like bringing a knife to a gunfight, as the saying goes.

At the very least, we should recognise that our love of freedom - and our willingness to tolerate those of diverse beliefs within our Western societies - has an Achilles Heel. That fault is that our Western societies thrive on the "live and let live" principle only so long as everyone _in_ the societies _also_ embrace that viewpoint.

The West is now welcoming into its midst a culture that absolutely - and openly - rejects this philosophy. We are admitting into our countries the cancer that will seek to kill us from within.

What can one do with cancer?

With a medical cancer, if the cancer cannot be cut out or forced to shrink to harmlessness through chemotherapy or radiation, it will eventually kill the body.

But what options do the Western civilisations have with the Islamic cancer growing within their own borders? Must we allow them to _continue_ to grow, because (due to our Western notions of tolerance) we lack the intestinal fortitude to prevent that growth? Even though we see the dangers of doing nothing?

As the title of this topic goes, "Should Muslims Be Targeted?"

As we struggle with that question, perhaps we should ask ourselves another:
"As Islam grows in strength within the West, will _Westerners_ be targeted?"

Cheers!
- John

92 posted on 07/17/2005 8:00:20 AM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: DTogo

So your "Final Crusade" will dispense Zyklon B gas to a billion peaceful and pious Muslims how exactly?


93 posted on 07/17/2005 8:01:08 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: MadIvan
George Bush and the GOP congress are taking our homeland down the same wretched path as "Eurabia". These are the LEGAL immigration figures for their massive importation of Islam into our country. Figures are up from these 2002 numbers.

Birth
Country
Legal USA Immigrants
2002
Muslim population percentage Estimated 2002 Muslim Legal Immigrants
Pakistan          9,415               97                9,133
Iran          7,230               99                7,158
India        50,228               14                7,032
Philippines        45,250               14                6,335
Nigeria          7,872               75                5,904
Ethiopia          6,635               65                4,313
Bangladesh          4,616               85                3,924
Egypt          3,348               94                3,147
Morocco          3,137               99                3,096
Turkey          3,029             100                3,023
Jordan          2,927               95                2,781
Albania          3,362               75                2,522
Russia        13,935               18                2,508
Somalia          2,444             100                2,444
Iraq          2,450               97                2,377
Lebanon          2,956               70                2,069
Syria          1,938               90                1,744
Indonesia          1,805               95                1,715
Sudan          1,883               85                1,601
Yemen          1,382               99                1,368
Ghana          4,410               30                1,323
Uzbekistan          1,445               88                1,272
Afghanistan          1,252             100                1,252
Guyana          6,809               15                1,021
Sierra Leone          1,492               65                   970
Kenya          3,209               30                   947
Algeria             759               99                   751
Niger             808               91                   735
Saudi Arabia             735             100                   735
Romania          3,655               20                   731
Azerbaijan             746               93                   697
Togo          1,187               55                   653
Kuwait             707               89                   629
Malaysia          1,200               52                   624
Serbia and Mont.          2,994               19                   569
Bulgaria          3,825               14                   536
Liberia          1,766               30                   530
Cameroon             927               55                   510
Senegal             522               95                   496
Eritrea             556               80                   445
Thailand          3,126               14                   438
Israel          2,741               14                   384
UAE             380               96                   365
Tanzania             554               65                   360
Tunisia             353               98                   346
Cote d'Ivoire             483               60                   290
Kyrgyzstan             356               76                   271
United Kingdom          9,527                3                   257
Macedonia             653               30                   196
Germany          5,064                3                   172
Canada        11,350                1                   168
France          2,375                7                   166
Uganda             455               36                   164
Libya             140             100                   140
Mauritania             131             100                   131
Guinea-Bissau             176               70                   123
Fiji          1,095               11                   120
Burma          1,193               10                   119
Tajikistan             137               85                   116
Sri Lanka          1,246                9                   112
Mali             124               90                   112
Singapore             582               17                    99
Nepal          2,095                4                    84
Georgia             735               11                    81
Oman              76             100                    76
Turkmenistan              84               87                    73
Qatar              72             100                    72
Argentina          3,129                2                    63
Japan          5,971                1                    60
Bahrain              59             100                    59
Zimbabwe             358               15                    54
Panama          1,164                4                    47
Suriname             180               25                    45
South Africa          2,210                2                    44
Zambia             280               15                    42
Cyprus             123               33                    41
Australia          1,836                2                    38
Brazil          6,331                1                    38
Hong Kong          3,574                1                    36
Sweden             963                4                    35
Burkina Faso              60               50                    30
Netherlands             981                3                    29
Guinea              29               95                    28
Cambodia          2,263                1                    23
Malawi              62               35                    22
Italy          1,644                1                    16
Djibouti              16               94                    15
Maldives              15             100                    15
Burundi              74               20                    15
Angola              59               25                    15
Croatia          1,153                1                    14
Brunei              20               63                    13
Benin              76               15                    11
Mauritius              57               20                    11
Mozambique              36               29                    10
Greece             651                2                    10
Madagascar              40               20                      8
Chad                8               85                      7
Mongolia             153                4                      6
Malta              37               14                      5
Norway             320                2                      5
Cen. African Rep.                6               55                      3
Comoros                3               86                      3
Swaziland              23               10                      2
Namibia              40                5                      2
Aruba              27                5                      1
Botswana              27                5                      1
United States              32                4                      1
Rwanda             109                1                      1
Bhutan              15                5                      1
Slovenia              64                1                      1
Reunion                3               20                      1
Lesotho                5               10                      1
TOTAL              95,577

94 posted on 07/17/2005 8:13:15 AM PDT by dagnabbit (Vincente Fox's opening line at the Mexico-USA summit meeting: "Bring out the Gimp!")
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To: Cultural Jihad
So your "Final Crusade" will dispense Zyklon B gas...

Putting words in my mouth? The Islamo-fascists openly advocate and have stepped up their Nazi-like war of oppression and murder. I advocate a Churchillian call for absolute victory.

a billion peaceful and pious Muslims

Yeah, about as "peaceful and pious" as the millions of flag-waiving fascists/imperialists cheering their armies on to conquests 65 years ago.

95 posted on 07/17/2005 8:28:03 AM PDT by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: dagnabbit

Thanks for posting the numbers of real Americans!


96 posted on 07/17/2005 8:31:36 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: MadIvan
Just what the Islamofascists intended.

They will not tolerate peave between Islam and Non-Islam.

97 posted on 07/17/2005 8:33:22 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (BOHICA!)
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To: Leapfrog

I've been using the single fold method and it also works well.


98 posted on 07/17/2005 10:25:41 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Fishrrman
Let me state for the record that I firmly and unchangeably believe that Muslim "integration" into Western societies and cultures is simply NOT possible. Not now. Not ever. NOT coming soon to a country near you.

Islam has a 1400 year history of empirialistic conquest by the sword that supports what you write. But how many Westerners have bothered to read this history? Very few. Instead, we are feed a steady diet of multicultural revisionism which demands that Westerners denigrate their own culture and instead celebrate the "Other" as being culturally superior. It is a recipe for disaster and self-destruction from within.

99 posted on 07/17/2005 1:32:35 PM PDT by stripes1776
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To: TomGuy

Standing next to a stroller before you blow yourself up kind of seems more than hate-based to me. It seems like pure evil.


100 posted on 07/17/2005 3:34:32 PM PDT by MarMema
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