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To: stripes1776
stripes1776 writes:
I still haven't heard many people willing to ask the critical questions: is it possible for a medieval religion to integrate itself into Western society which through many bloody wars has for the most part succeeded in purging itself of medieval religious beliefs?
What is the average person supposed to do? Sit by passively while the governement lets more millions of Moslems immigrate to the West? If Moslems desire the material prosperity of the West, but detest our social values--equality for women, freedom of speech and religion, respect for individual rights and expression of thought, consensual secular government, then how is integration possible?

It took 37 postings before someone was able to cut through to the crux of the matter. Thanks, stripes1776.

Let me state for the record that I firmly and unchangeably believe that Muslim "integration" into Western societies and cultures is simply NOT possible. Not now. Not ever. NOT coming soon to a country near you.

Indeed, I recall reading - right here on FreeRepublic - quoted passages of the Quran that expressly _forbid_ Muslims from mixing with non-Muslims.

The West - and Christianity (along with its predecessor, Judaism) - represents freedom. It represents respect for the individual. It represents tolerance - the very "tolerance" of non-Western movements in our midst which will seek to destroy us.

Islam represents submission to a quasi-facist religious/state. Individual "freedom" is discouraged (just look at that frequently-posted pic of Islamic women, all-identical in their black coverings). Everything that we embrace in the West true Islamics despise.

The two cultures are, by their nature - by every parameter of measure - incompatible. They cannot be _made_ compatible. They must forever remain at odds.

Islam openly touts how it intends to rule the earth. To gain that goal, it will crush the West out of existence by any means possible. They'll use nuclear weapons once the right (read: determined) Islamics possess them. But perhaps their most potent weapon is DEMOGRAPHICS. If not by force of arms, they intend to overwhelm us by force of numbers.

And, with the passage of time, they slip into our midst. We see this in the burgeoning Muslim populations in Europe, and even here in the United States and Canada.

But still, there is no "integration". There is only self-isolation (remember again, Islamics are forbidden to assimilate by Islam itself). And, with that, there is also - even among the [so-called] "peaceful" Islamics - silent smiles and head-nodding whenever a blow is struck "for the cause" against the hated West.

I believe that if we of the West are indeed engaged in a total war with Islam (do YOU believe that, dear reader?), the West _cannot_ win if it restrains itself to fighting that war based solely on "western principles" of engagement. The other side will use ANY means possible to defeat us. For them, the end justifies the means. If WE are to win, we will not do so until we drop the pretenses of being to "civilised" about our cause and display a [regretful] willingness to engage the enemy on THEIR terms. Doing anything less will be like bringing a knife to a gunfight, as the saying goes.

At the very least, we should recognise that our love of freedom - and our willingness to tolerate those of diverse beliefs within our Western societies - has an Achilles Heel. That fault is that our Western societies thrive on the "live and let live" principle only so long as everyone _in_ the societies _also_ embrace that viewpoint.

The West is now welcoming into its midst a culture that absolutely - and openly - rejects this philosophy. We are admitting into our countries the cancer that will seek to kill us from within.

What can one do with cancer?

With a medical cancer, if the cancer cannot be cut out or forced to shrink to harmlessness through chemotherapy or radiation, it will eventually kill the body.

But what options do the Western civilisations have with the Islamic cancer growing within their own borders? Must we allow them to _continue_ to grow, because (due to our Western notions of tolerance) we lack the intestinal fortitude to prevent that growth? Even though we see the dangers of doing nothing?

As the title of this topic goes, "Should Muslims Be Targeted?"

As we struggle with that question, perhaps we should ask ourselves another:
"As Islam grows in strength within the West, will _Westerners_ be targeted?"

Cheers!
- John

92 posted on 07/17/2005 8:00:20 AM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: Fishrrman
Let me state for the record that I firmly and unchangeably believe that Muslim "integration" into Western societies and cultures is simply NOT possible. Not now. Not ever. NOT coming soon to a country near you.

Islam has a 1400 year history of empirialistic conquest by the sword that supports what you write. But how many Westerners have bothered to read this history? Very few. Instead, we are feed a steady diet of multicultural revisionism which demands that Westerners denigrate their own culture and instead celebrate the "Other" as being culturally superior. It is a recipe for disaster and self-destruction from within.

99 posted on 07/17/2005 1:32:35 PM PDT by stripes1776
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