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Posted on 07/02/2005 7:53:49 PM PDT by John Robertson
I just realized...I mean that.
It's going to come down to this.
I have often argued, as many here have, that when FReepers said they would sit home rather than vote for (McCain, usually, sometimes Guiliani), that such sitting out would put Hilary in the Whitehouse.
But I'm not moving on this.
T_ H_LL W_TH H_L_RY
Would you like to buy a vowel ?
The poster and response regarded a viable third party.
That's great; throw the next Presidential Election to the 'Rats.
I am not sure, but I think the authors point was he, and no doubt many others, are seeing little difference between the Dems and the Reps. It's no secret, for quiet a while now, many have been left feeling very disenfranchised. Personally, I'd like to see a conservative, smaller, less intrusive government while I am still alive.
Due to activists judges trying to shape American society to what they think it should be; being swayed and led and manipulated by weird, fringe pressure groups (NOW, ACLU etc.), the courts are quickly losing whatever respect they had in the past. Sooner than you think, there will come a time when large masses of people will refuse and outright defy court orders and judgments. It might even be a state, several states that tell federal courts to shove there decisions where the sun don't shine.
The courts, especially federal courts are losing legitimacy in the eyes of many Americans. I believe we are reaching the point of no return with the courts, the Democrat Party, ACLU, NOW and all the other strange, pushy leftwing groups. The latest outrage they are pushing is homosexual marriage and indoctrinating children in public schools into accepting homosexuality as normal. This and the deliberate lack of enforcement of the immigration laws is pushing the nation past the "tipping point.". Not to mention the property rights ruling by the Supreme Court. I think the patience, and comity in the people have ended.
It isn't against the law to be stupid. Maybe someday you'll realize the tail doesn't wag the dog. Bush will do the right thing even if some tiny minority of Ultras don't approve. They never approve of anything anyway so who cares?
For a quick review of the requirements of leadership look at Lincoln's during the Civil War. Bush is following in his footsteps fortunately for the Nation.
Bush as Lincoln? *LOL* Stop it..
Do you actually think that there are posters here on this thread who don't want to see a conservative, smaller government in their lifetime?
I am fairly certain they are not. Again, I cannot speak for the author here, but I think this is part of his position.
So you would cut your nose off to spite your face? Hillary does not have a chance in hell of being elected anyway. Quote me on this.
dont vote for hillarry in 08 vote straight libertarian ticket starting in 06 WHEN bush puts up a living constitution liberal for the supreme court not if
I will always vote for the lesser of two evils. And Hitlery is the greater evil.
This thread is about judicial nominations. Just lookng at who the President nominated to the Circuit Courts; tell me ANY recent President who has done better.
The President made it clear that he expects the Senate to give his nominee a fair hearing and an up-or-down vote. Tell me why he would make that statement if he was going to appoint another Souter.
Can you tell me if the Losertarian Caucus in the Senate will support breaking the filibuster?
My husband JohnRobertson posted this thread, sat back in his chair, and said, "I started out thinking this was going to be a dull night, but things are about to heat up." Then the phone rang. A family member is in a situation that demands his presence. He ran out, came back in a couple hours, changed shirts, and waited for the coffee to perk.
While waiting, he took a look. He only had time to post one reply, but he asked me to keep reading, and defend him "only if someone's really out of line."
He expected sharp criticism, sharp reaction. It has all fallen pretty much along the lines he told me it would.
He is convinced that the ascension of anyone other than a true conservative to the court will be a disaster--for our country, our culture, our future. He said something along the lines of: "If we get a 'moderate,' we're going to end up as neutered as most of Europe, and a lot sooner than anyone thinks."
I happen to disagree, by the way. I happen to think he's overreacting. But I am happy to tell you that he is a lifelong conservative Republican, has worked in many state and national campaigns, and has contributed enough money to Republicans over the years that, in a few lean times, we had to laugh about there being any chance of getting a refund. Contributed to, campaigned for, and voted for Bob Dole. Almost got arrested when he demanded that the cop enforce the laws about electioneering too close to the polling place (the dems were ramming their campaign literature in people's face. He complained and the cop said, It's not that big a deal. Hubby said: It's the biggest deal going today, and if you don't enforce the law, I'll make a call and get a television news camera shoved right up your ass. That cop glares at him to this day.)
Never voted for Perot. Saw that coming together for Clinton and said, Don't people realize what they're doing? Putting in that guy from Arkansas. LaRouche is a kook to him.
He is a true conservative, and manages himself, his friends, his life, his business, his affairs and his family in a very generous way, with compromise and moderation.
But he has a few things he won't compromise on. Abortion is one, and this issue has become another abortion issue for him: You are either pro-life or you're not. If you're not for conservative judges, for him, you must be in favor of letting activist judges decide how we're going to live. He knows where that will lead, and thinks it will lead us there fast: Tyranny of the citizen and his or her soul, or insurrection. He doesn't want either one, and sees that it's far smarter to head the issue off now.
Like I said, I think he's overreacting, but I've known him too long to think I can change his opinion, or to not respect that opinion.
I think that you, in his words, have igone "really out of line."
You, PhiKapMom, should be embarrassed. You've spent so much time demonstrating how superior you are to almost everyone. But didn't we all learn back in grade school that the ones who have to keep telling us how superior they are to the rest of us are just doing it because they know they're not? Then, didn't we learn from our mamas, that even if we are superior, we shouldn't show it? That true superiority would never stoop to shout about itself?
And you're lazy:
"Just because someone has an old sign up date means nothing -- some signed up here after 2000 and just lie around coming up for air ever so often to post."
Check things out. This guy spends too much damned time on this forum! He's always posting, responding, posting, reading. That was a totally gratuitious remark that you could have avoided if you'd bother to take a look. I'll defend your right to say whatever you want, but if you disparage one of mine, especially my husband, I am damned coming after you.
It's late, and I have more urgent matters to tend to. I know you'll respond, but it will be lost on me, because I'm not coming back here. I will ask JohnRobertson very nicely and firmly not to get into it, when he finally gets back to his computer, and he will probably listen to me. He listens to me on almost everything. But not this judge issue.
If you really wanted to demonstrate your superiority, you'd post an apology to my husband, and perhaps even follow it up with an email note. Remember the handmaident to superiority: Class.
Signed, JohnRobertson's Wife.
I don't know everyones true position here. But there are many out there, that do not want to see that. I think that point is proven by just looking at what we have.
Libertarian ping.To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message hereok guys he needs our help w gotta convince him to vote for the good guys instead of hitlery for president :-)
If he DOES try to finese this, it will be as ruinous as his father's broken pledge about taxes.
If there was no "revolution" during the Clinton years, it ain't gonna happen. And such talk has been a no no, for many years here on FR. It is against posting rules.
Of course they did.
Interesting that....so President Bush is Satan or at the least, in league with the devil? And everyone, who doesn't agree with you 100% of the time and say and do exactly what you want is evil, evil, EVIL ? Is that you Torquemada, or are you Savonarola?
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