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Jessica Gonzales did not have a constitutional right to police enforcement of the court order against her husband, the court said in a 7-2 opinion.

Small comfort to her three daughters.

And the Anti-second amendment crowd will tell you the police are there to protect you.

1 posted on 06/27/2005 8:36:45 AM PDT by strange1
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To: strange1

I can't restrain myself!


2 posted on 06/27/2005 8:38:01 AM PDT by Paloma_55
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To: strange1
Jessica Gonzales did not have a constitutional right to police enforcement of the court order against her husband, the court said in a 7-2 opinion.

So, given this decision, then where is that ruling that the 2nd Amendment is actually a guarantee to the right of individuals to bear arms?

--- crickets ---

3 posted on 06/27/2005 8:38:19 AM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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Soooo who is supposed to help you if you have a restraining order against someone? (Besides Smith & Wesson) What good are they (restraining orders) if they're not going to be enforced?


4 posted on 06/27/2005 8:40:57 AM PDT by Millee (So you're a feminist......isn't that cute??)
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This was a given. The Supreme Court has ruled on numerous occassions that the police have no obligation to protect every individual.

My advice to anyone who needs a restraining order is to hold a piece of paper in one hand and a gun in the other and try to determine which one is most likely to save your life from this type of nutcase.


5 posted on 06/27/2005 8:41:59 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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I think this was a good decision, except that this Supreme Court has no intention of taking this case to the next logical step.

The only "restraining order" anyone needs is a firearm and a sh!t-load of ammunition.

6 posted on 06/27/2005 8:42:19 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but lord I'm free.)
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To: strange1
Jessica Gonzales did not have a constitutional right to police enforcement of the court order against her husband, the court said in a 7-2 opinion.

This ruling is scary (but with this court, not shocking). Sadly, if she had wanted an abortion, then she would have had a constitutional right to police enforced protection.

8 posted on 06/27/2005 8:45:31 AM PDT by lunarbicep ("Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve." - G. B. Shaw)
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Those of us who are Second Amendment activists have been telling people for some time that the core fallacy of gun control is that the police are not required to protect you from the bad guys -- they only clean up the mess afterward. It's up to you to exercise your fundamentally human right to self-defense.


9 posted on 06/27/2005 8:46:03 AM PDT by HolgerDansk ("Oh Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round.)
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I remember a lot more to this particular story. The police dept. ignored her calls, telling her to wait it out, that he'd probably bring the girls home again.


11 posted on 06/27/2005 8:48:34 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes (News junkie here)
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If Jessica had a weapon and shot the SOB we would be hearing the police tell us it is best not to confront the attacker, let the police handle it. just can't come up with the words to say how much this sickens me.
13 posted on 06/27/2005 8:51:02 AM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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Restraining Order = Piece of paper.
It's not armor against bullets.
Take precautions.


15 posted on 06/27/2005 8:56:10 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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A restraining order is simply pre-established probable cause for arrest. That's all. It has never been, nor will it be, a magic protective shield for the victims of violence. Self-defense must be the primary course of action for such people.
16 posted on 06/27/2005 8:58:53 AM PDT by TChris (Liberals: All death, all the time.)
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As someone who was stalked for a year I carried my firearm. To do otherwise would have been stupid. Yes the guy once caught got a felony terrioristic threatning conviction and a permanent restraining order. I am smart enough to not rely on a piece of paper. A restraining order will NOT protect you.


17 posted on 06/27/2005 8:59:32 AM PDT by therut
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Though the courts ruled police can't be sued for not doing enough, does this imply that police can do nothing ? i.e. are allowed to ignore a court order altogether ?


26 posted on 06/27/2005 9:28:49 AM PDT by stylin19a (Suicide bomber ??? "I came to the wrong jihad")
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The police in my town spend less and less time fighting crime than they do impounding cars to sell at auction.. they've turned the law into a very profitable venture for themselves.. any excuse will do, forget your license? IMPOUND. can't find your proof of insurance? IMPOUND? speeding? IMPOUND.. they rarely give out tickets anymore..they will just tow your car and leave you stranded.


34 posted on 06/27/2005 9:51:06 AM PDT by Awestruck (Here we go again!!)
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To: strange1

bump & tag


36 posted on 06/27/2005 10:04:06 AM PDT by chuknospam
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To: strange1

Saw that one coming... Many precidents to follow on this one.


38 posted on 06/27/2005 10:07:21 AM PDT by Ladysmith ((NRA) Wisconsin Hunter Shootings: If you want on/off the WI Hunters ping list, please let me know.)
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ow hanging fruit.

It has been awhile since I read "DIAL 911 AND DIE" available at www.jpfo.org, but if I remember correctly, there are only TWO states wherein one has even a snowballs chance in hell of succeeding with a lawsuit against law enforcement.

Police do not have the "duty" to protect your person. This, despite the logo and saying that adorns many cruisers, "to protect and serv." The simple fact is, the bolded part of this article, "...The restraining orders are not worth anything...( unless police officers are willing to enforce them...this part is silly!). They are just paper," is among the more profound truths out there. Get a gun, learn how to use it, and blow the dirtbag away when next accosted.

Dial 911 indeed!

To protect and serve indeed!


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39 posted on 06/28/2005 8:06:45 AM PDT by petro45acp (SUPPORT/BE YOUR LOCAL SHEEPDOG!!!!)
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