Scientology's Nut Job Founder

The Smoking Gun ^ | June 24, 2005

[monkapotamus]

Scientology's Nut Job Founder

Cruise a kook? Check out these gems from L. Ron's FBI file

JUNE 24--As Tom Cruise and his Scientology cohorts show Katie Holmes the religion's ropes, they surely won't be spending any time focusing on L. Ron Hubbard's wonderfully entertaining FBI file. Which, of course, is TSG's job. This Hubbard guy, the bureau documents reveal, was quite a raving lunatic (who could have imagined?). When he wasn't diming out a supposed Nazi, beefing about his wife, or complaining about being harassed by Cuban commies, Hubbard wrote to the FBI about a bizarre home invasion. Hubbard, the guiding light to nitwits like Cruise, John Travolta, Kirstie Alley, and Lisa Marie Presley, told agents in a May 1951 letter about being attacked in his crib. After being knocked out by the intruder(s), the science fiction author claimed, a needle was "thrust into his heart to produce a coronary thrombosis and he was given an electric shock." Little wonder Cruise & Co. are so down on electro convulsive therapy considering what happened to this poor mother Hubbard, who died in 1986 at age 74. Here are some excerpts from L. Ron's FBI file, which we obtained via a Freedom of Information request:

Blowing The Whistle On A Supposed Nazi (1 page)

A Plea For Red Protection (1 page)

Recalling A Heart Attack (3 pages)

FBI Reviews Bankruptcy Filing (2 pages)

L. Ron's Rap Sheet (1 page)

Hubbard: No Tricky Dick Fan (5 pages)

[oceanperch]

That is my feeling too.

[oceanperch]

No but as long as we know the dif.

When I was young I thought drinking beer really did make you cool because of the tv ads. Then I tried being a beer drinker and looked around at other beer drinker who were old and intoxicated and it dawned on me.

Also despite being guallable I asked around how someone could get so out of it drinking beer as it is so filling and found out those old men where hitting shots of the hard stuff on the sly.

[tutstar]

ROFL

[qam1]

Jesus is the only one who had reliable witnesses numbering the the thousands many of them once hostile witnesses...Especially among the religious scholars and lawyers of the day as well as Roman Army officers.. No other has had such documentation...truth is established/ascertained by reliable witnesses..

Name one from a source outside the Bible from the time of Jesus

And don't say Josephus, he was born in 37 AD, after Jesus was supposedly crucified or hanged so he wasn't an eyewitness

[Boazo]

[monkapotamus]

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0506/24/pzn.01.html

ZAHN: I don't know whether we're supposed to laugh at that or not. Is Tom Cruise's star close to burning out? Joining me now is film critic Tom O'Neill of "In Touch" weekly magazine and Goldderby.com. Always good to see you.

TOM O'NEILL, FILM CRITIC: Same here, Paula.

ZAHN: Is this guy blowing himself up or what?

O'NEILL: We are seeing a career suicide from Hollywood's No. 1 star. It fascinating to watch, isn't it?

ZAHN: Why would the industry's most bankable star allow for this to happen to him?

O'NEILL: Because he doesn't know. When he had Pat Kingsley as his publicist, the No. 1 in samurai, strong arm publicist in Hollywood, managing his career, she didn't let him out of the box. And he was able to retain some mystery and allure. And this kooky side of him we're seeing now was kept in check.

Well last year, as many people know, he appointed his sister, who had been a PR chief with the film studios, to manage his career. She's letting Tom do whatever he wants. And we're seeing how crazy these stars really are.

ZAHN: But what has sparked this? Here he has a very important movie coming out. He doesn't even talk about the movie during any of these interviews.

O'NEILL: There is good reason for that, Paula.

ZAHN: Which I'm sure Mr. Spielberg is pretty unhappy about it.

O'NEILL: There is one big problem that will explain all of this within the next 72 hours. And it is the fact that this movie is supposed to be terrible. Not just good, but, unworkable.

ZAHN: But how do we know that? The critics haven't even seen it yet.

O'NEILL: Right. They are not letting the critics in until Monday night, which automatically tells you there is a problem. They normally never do that unless it is really bad movie. They made the journalists who have gone to the premieres sign confidentially agreements. I have spoken to several people who were at the premiere in New York the other night and they said, it doesn't work.

Now, if it...

ZAHN: They violated they're agreements. They shouldn't have told you that.

O'NEILL: I know.

ZAHN: Why believe them? They're liars.

O'NEILL: They're not saying it's really, really bad. But they're saying it is a disappointment. If that is true, Paula, this would be -- if other reports are true, the single biggest bomb in Hollywood history.

ZAHN: Because you're talking over what, $120 million plus production...

O'NEILL: No, that's what they've confessed to. There are reports that came out today it could $230 million. That this is the most expensive movie ever made. Could be Spielberg's only bomb. And that that's what's fueled this desperate -- Tom is desperate. You can see it in his face. The relationship isn't believable. His behavior is ridiculous. This man has a problem. And what it is, his career could be crashing.

ZAHN: But, Spielberg hasn't produced any bombs. I mean, how bad can this be?

O'NEILL: But the expectation level is so high.

Here's another factor, the way films are structured financially now, is that they give gross points, instead of net points, to the star. There is one report that Spielberg and Tom are dividing up 35 percent of the gross points on this film. If that is true, how is Paramount and Dreamworks going to get their money back? So, suddenly, we heard just a month ago that Paramount had put Mission Impossible 3 on hold. It begins filming July 17, because they were so concerned about Tom.

You see, behind the scenes, there is this desperation going on in Hollywood. And we are seeing the Tom personally side of it.

ZAHN: We have 25 seconds left. So, let's separate the bomb the movie, if that's what it ends up being, from everything else that is going on with Tom Cruise. Is it just the talking about scientology and psychiatry, is that going to alienate fans?

O'NEILL: Absolutely. We saw a poll come out today. Already, 61 percent of the people think less of Tom. I think once this Matt Lauer things gets replayed a few more times there is going to be real rage building up against this man. He's in big trouble.

ZAHN: Were you outraged when you saw it?

O'NEILL: I was. And I want him to apologize to Matt. I think he was totally out of line. And Brooke Shields, while he's at it.

[Bear_Slayer]

Amazing!

My wife has a Myotonic Dystrophy; Her Physician has never believed that she does and has always leaned towards anxiety. Apparently the Vistaril was her sneaky attempt to treat anxiety instead of the Myotonic Dystrophy.

I'm closer to getting a good medical malpractice lawyer.

Thanks - I apologize - I was in error.

[rock58seg]

My wife has a Myotonic Dystrophy;

My heart and prayers go out to you and your Wife. Please get rid of that charlatan and contact the MDA as soon as possible. They have caring and helpful programs.

I know this because my wife died of the complications surrounding Myotonic Muscular Dystrophy several years ago. She was able to live with it from diagnosis to death for about 20 years.

[backhoe]

I have some links regarding this cult ( yes, I call 'em like I see 'em... ) here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1430340/posts?page=55#55

[Calpernia]

Ping to a link to backhoe's Scientology bump lists. Great reference for bookmarking.

[Windsong]

Scientology was invented so the Jehovah's Witnesses would have someone to laugh at.

And the Mormons as well.

[DUH]

just stating the facts, with a comedic hook ... it's directed at every sect or cult practicing scientology, without fear, apology or retraction.

[Windsong]

Dammit, I was looking forward to this film too. The trailer looked good as well (but then again, The Phantom Menace trailer also looked awesome, and look what Georgie gave us).

[Almondjoy]

Scientology and it's "nutjob" followers aside. Does anyone here believe that medication is the easy way to becoming God's perfect person?

It seems to me that medication is taking the place of what use to hard work at achieving good mental health.

Tom Cruise maybe wasn't the best candidate to make the point he was making but it seems to me that his "point" was right on the money.

[backhoe]

Ping to a link to backhoe's Scientology bump lists. Great reference for bookmarking.

Appreciate the pings, and the kind words... I remember Ell-Ron from years ago, even read Dianetics. If they didn't have so much money, and celebrity, behind them, they could be ignored.

[Jacob Kell]

So do you think that God originally spoke to all groups of man, but evnetually most of them drifter away from God, but Abraham stayed loyal?

[NewLand]

In 1993 the Clinton administration declared Scientology a religion and granted them tax exempt status.

I believe there are a few 'Scientologists' here on FR...check out the evolution worship threads and you may spot a few...

[Calpernia]

bump!

[Hacksaw]

I believe there are a few 'Scientologists' here on FR...check out the evolution worship threads and you may spot a few...

Yep - and they are also protected. They must smoke a lot of management pole.

[reagan_fanatic]

Does Hollywood ever portray born again Christians as anything other than kooks?

No.