Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

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[stlnative]

Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures - 
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

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I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

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Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)

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This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

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[Peach]

Thanks; I'd gotten kicked off the computer just as you were all discussing that and I didn't know if it had been proven and I'd missed it up thread.

[onyx]

Exactly right. Low life punks, and that goes for the released DJ too. He ought to be charged for something.

[stlnative]

It is time to pull in the lie detectors on the brothers. If they are innocent then they should take the tests without even blinking. The question is will the Dutch government allow it?

Clear the 2 brothers if possible and then challenge Joran and his father to take one.

Maybe Mickey Johns would be willing to take one on what Deepak told him.

[Peach]

I wonder if they've hired private detectives? Without more information, I'm afraid in 7 days, those kids are walking out the door.

[kcvl]

What the HELL kind of legal system is this?

Make it up as you go?!

[Peach]

It might be; I was cleaning and didn't see who said it; just heard it.

[TexKat]

The security guard will make an EXCELLENT witness and given what he just said, I'm astounded the father was released from jail. Just astounded.

This is the first time John has stated the inclusion of the VDS family. In other statements this was not made, so I am not sure if he has informed LE of this or not.

And to think about it if he (John) had of stated this while in custody he may not have ever seen the light of day.

[cajungirl]

It is an odd system.

For instance they can sort of keep you for almost half a year without charges, question you indefinitely. I don't know if they can have a right to be silent.

In this case, I think more is at work than their system.

[spectre]

IF Micky Johns told the Chief Investigator the same thing he told Greta, it's obvious that the Investigator and Paul Van Der Sloot are truly "best friends". He was released, wasn't he..

sw

[cajungirl]

Paulus may yet implicate himself. He can be rearrested.

[af_vet_1981]

I wonder if they've hired private detectives? Without more information, I'm afraid in 7 days, those kids are walking out the door.

Quite possibly so
1. Focus on finding Natalee
2. Strangle the Aruban economy
3. Let the perps constantly look over their shoulders
4. Private parties can discover the truth

[demkicker]

Thanks to all of you too. I cannot bear reading ignorant drivel and when the ignorant drivel gets more ignorant and nasty, it gets on my last nerve. Right now, I wish I had a punching bag and could pretend it was someone whose name starts with a T and ends with an i.

[Pepper777]

" They found a judge who would release PvdS. They are protecting the criminal rather than find the truth."

I think so too and it makes me sick. I'm scared for Mikey, the security guard. Hope no one goes after him.

[af_vet_1981]

Makes the Dad's remarks even worse, in light of the fact, he may have conspired to LIE with his son and the brothers, before the early morning of May 31th. He might very well know exactly what happened to Natalee.

He knows and a private party would extract the information from him in hours, if not minutes.

[af_vet_1981]

I think so too and it makes me sick. I'm scared for Mikey, the security guard. Hope no one goes after him.

I don't think he is a threat to the Aruban economy.

[jacquej]

posted this to Toespi on another thread, but think it needs posted here as well...

"Sorry, Toespi, mine did too... further more my son graduated at the top of his class at West Point, and fought for us in DW1...

so, take your effort to one-up us quiet Freepers, and shove it."

[onyx]

This is beyond outrageous. I feel so badly for Natalee's family and their friends.

Just watched the one brother's attorney. Trouble with the brothers, they didn't join the search either. It's just awful, but MAYBE they're telling the truth at long last, but how will we know?

[TexKat]

Paulus may yet implicate himself. He can be rearrested.

Paulus is still a suspect. He is walking free at the present because the new judge found the the evidence that the prosecutor presented on PVDS was insufficient. However the prosecutor's spokesperson Mariaine Croes stated that they were searching for more evidence sufficient evidence that incriminates PVDS, supposedly.

[kcat]

I had heard that Croes said he overheard Deepak say they dropped Natalee off at the HI but he did not say that to Greta.

Let me add Greta to my previous post about the family and Mickey John being the only investigators in this case.

Also, why in the world are you guys even answering Toepsi?

[maggief]

IMO, what would be the point? LE was ready to frame him.

IIRC, LE interviewed him twice, one when arrested and secondly prior to his release.