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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3
Link to previous thread ^ | 6/23/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative

Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923


Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.


Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.


PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)



I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE


Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)


This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.




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To: Peach

The father said he would waive his rights, but now this girl is saying that if they ask him a question he doesn't want to answer, he can say no?


What the HELL kind of legal system is this?


4,021 posted on 06/28/2005 7:35:26 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: brigette

I like this guy too.


4,022 posted on 06/28/2005 7:35:36 PM PDT by maggief
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To: kcvl; Howlin

Had company for dinner and I've not been able to catch up and read some earlier threads. You all may have already discussed this, but I'm still reeling about the news Greta reported about the released security guard who says when in jail with Deepak he told him PVDS rehearsed them to lie about their whereabouts when questioned about NH! Shouldn't this be enough info to re-arrest PVDS?


4,023 posted on 06/28/2005 7:35:36 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)
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To: TexKat

You had the name right and I hope he's very careful. Isn't the police chief Juran's godfather?


4,024 posted on 06/28/2005 7:35:39 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Howlin
Wow, y'all. It seems to me that Jug and friends and Mickey John are the only investigators in this search. How about that interview with Mickey John.

Croes did not look on the level to me. What about the suggestion from the newspaper reporter that he was looking for reward $ by giving a tip? Why would the tip be the cover story the kids first told? That really doesn't make since.

4,025 posted on 06/28/2005 7:35:40 PM PDT by kcat
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To: brigette
They better get Mickey Johns some protection. I like this guy.

I know.

Now was Deepak telling the truth to John.

4,026 posted on 06/28/2005 7:36:11 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Howlin

It's a lousy system if she's characterized it correctly. And someone yesterday called Aruba's legal system the premiere justice system in the world. Wish I could remember who said that.

Can you believe the father was released with the security guard as witness? Sheesh


4,027 posted on 06/28/2005 7:37:00 PM PDT by Peach
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To: demkicker

That attorney person on Greta thinks so. I hope so.


4,028 posted on 06/28/2005 7:37:11 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: Peach
The security guard will make an EXCELLENT witness and given what he just said, I'm astounded the father was released from jail. Just astounded.

They found a judge who would release PvdS. They are protecting the criminal rather than find the truth.

4,029 posted on 06/28/2005 7:37:19 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: kcat

I heard him explain that he'd overhead a phone conversation Deepak was having at the internet cafe.


4,030 posted on 06/28/2005 7:37:26 PM PDT by pamlet
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To: Peach

Yep, I'm more irate than astounded. If that island is anything like the Cayman's the race card was played by JVDS & family when they fingered the 2 black security guards. What I am trying to say, is that the word of the security guard doesn't carry as much weight for two reasons: "told to him by depok, and he's a foreign born (Grenada) black."


4,031 posted on 06/28/2005 7:37:43 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: Peach
Isn't the police chief Juran's godfather?

That is floating around out there but has not been confirmed as of yet.

4,032 posted on 06/28/2005 7:38:05 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: af_vet_1981

Poppa has friends in high places. Natalee's family needs help from some big time help. Just who is our ambassador for Aruba?


4,033 posted on 06/28/2005 7:38:32 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Howlin
The father said he would waive his rights, but now this girl is saying that if they ask him a question he doesn't want to answer, he can say no? What kind of legal system is this?

The only methods that are going to work will be private. Official Aruba is corrupt.

4,034 posted on 06/28/2005 7:39:33 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: onyx

Greta asked the security guard if anyone, including the police, had apologized for falsely arresting him and he said now. It's clear that because he's black and without resources that the little white punks thought they could finger him. Low life pieces of garbage.


4,035 posted on 06/28/2005 7:39:50 PM PDT by Peach
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To: spectre

I would think Micky would have told the authorities what he told Greta. If the father was involved in creating the HI story, that's huge. The story could have been made up during the day of May 30th. That would be BEFORE the Twitty's came to the VDS house.

Makes the Dad's remarks even worse, in light of the fact, he may have conspired to LIE with his son and the brothers, before the early morning of May 31th. He might very well know exactly what happened to Natalee.

LE should get on those brother's to tell the truth about the Dad and his involvement in the LIE. Deepak told Micky that he thought him and his brother would be OUT OF JAIL. Deepak thought Juran would remain in Jail. If the brothers are innocent, then why did they LIE for their friend and his dad?? Was blackmail involved?? More questions than answers, again.


4,036 posted on 06/28/2005 7:39:55 PM PDT by Pepper777
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To: Howlin
Why didn't Greta ASK Mickey Johns if he TOLD the investigators about the "family meeting to cook up the story"?..para

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4,037 posted on 06/28/2005 7:40:03 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Peach
Natalee's family needs help from some big time help.

They need private help.

4,038 posted on 06/28/2005 7:40:07 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: Peach
The security guard will make an EXCELLENT witness and given what he just said, I'm astounded the father was released from jail. Just astounded.

Don't be. Juran's Godfather is one of the lead "investigators". PVDS admitted he was "friends" with the Aruban authorities. So did his wife when she said she couldn't believe they arrested her husband, the judge.

4,039 posted on 06/28/2005 7:40:15 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Peach

Well, Jug made a comment about the Hague being the world's premiere justice capitol, but he did not mean it literally. Is that what you are thinking of?


4,040 posted on 06/28/2005 7:40:26 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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