Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

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[stlnative]

Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures - 
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

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I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

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Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)

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This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

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[cajungirl]

Your post is beautiful.

Thank you.

[Peach]

Are you listening to this security guy? He is absolutely certain in his memory that the family/father helped make up the cover story. Blockbuster!

[spectre]

Maybe Steve Croes was totally lieing to Greta?

I'm wondering if Micky Johns told the authorities exactly what he's telling Greta?

He'd make a good cop..

sw

[Toespi]

I used this as a metaphor ("As an after thought, I would like to add. Since my ancestors fought in the American Revolution, I am far more qualified for freedom in America than others," in response to this following post made to Gingersnap several days ago.

"If you notice, there has been a great deal of research that is going into trying to get to the truth in what we are trying desperately to piece together. We've been doing this sort of investigating for years on FR.. So unless you've been on this thread from the onset, you wouldn't be qualified to chastise this amazing group of individuals."

[Howlin]

It looks like they are going for the "I know I was the last person with her, so they're going to blame me, so as a kid, I just decided to get my friends to give me an alibi when I didn't really need one" defense.

[kcvl]

The suspects are in jail, there have been FBI, Aruban police, residents of the island, Coast Guard and private search organizations combing the island, it has gotten non-stop coverage, and world-wide press attention. The Aruban PM and Dutch government have been interviewed. How can you make this statement kcvl?

The FBI wasn't allowed to help, Aruban police are a joke, residents of the island have helped because Beth begged them, Coast Guard were begged to get involved, the private search organizations just arrived after Paul Reynolds (Beth's brother) contacted them. That's how I can say that.

If Beth and her family and friends hadn't gotten there and started investigating on their own they would have ignored her. All they want is for Natalee's family to go away so they can get on with their "happy lives".

[Jrabbit]

Thank you!

You said what I wanted to say but in a much more concise way than I could have.

[cajungirl]

I telescoped the entire dreadful scene assuming you are partly aware of what transpired.

But the point is, the Father urged his son not to help, was so fractious at the HI that the people there asked him to stay outside. He was determined not to be of aid.

Now you can think whatever you please, but if you have read all of this and continue to see things from the Sloots point of view, I have to ask why?

Why when this father knew what was going on, why did he continue to obstruct efforts to find out what his son knew.

Excuse it if you please.

[kcvl]

Thank you.

[onyx]

I believe the security guard, do you?

[elli1]

Of course we will all bow to your superior manner of handling things when your daughter is missing in a foreign country. I have watched your posts from the beginning. You never fail to get an edgewise nasty comment in about the Holloways. You are not as obvious as some, but you are transparent. And rather full of yourself.

Otherwise known as: ''I've exhausted my argument & am now reduced to ad-hominems.''

[af_vet_1981]

Unfortunately the criminal justice industry often serves the criminals. Sometimes the only justice the victims obtain is private justice.

[cajungirl]

I am done with you my dear. You simply don't hack it with me.

[stlnative]

They better get Mickey Johns some protection. I like this guy.

I caught part of Fuhrman on H&C earlier and I liked his idea of bringing in lie detectors for the brother to clear both of them if possible. This would put the heat of Joran.

[Peach]

That's what they are going for. It's not going to help the father's career as an attorney that he helped craft a lie.

[TexKat]

Are you listening to this security guy? He is absolutely certain in his memory that the family/father helped make up the cover story. Blockbuster!

I hope Mickey John does not come up with one of those columbian neckties or whatever they call it.

[Peach]

The security guard will make an EXCELLENT witness and given what he just said, I'm astounded the father was released from jail. Just astounded.

[onyx]

FOTFL! Yep, he's on his way to a great career as a defense attorney. Forget being a judge.

[cajungirl]

I am done with you too my dear.

[hummingbird]

Why is posse such a bad word? People think it's like cowboy or something. Posse's were people helping the law.

Words change meaning sometimes. When "the world" was calling GWB a 'cowboy,' I took that as a compliment for the president until I was shown the light!

Guess I'm one of the few who has never met a bad cowboy! LOL! Same deal on posse...my experiences give 'posse' a positive connotation. Others mileage may vary!