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Did Ancient Polynesians Visit California? Maybe So
SF Gate ^
| 6-20-2005
| Keay Davidson
Posted on 06/20/2005 3:27:04 PM PDT by blam
Scientists are taking a new look at an old and controversial idea: that ancient Polynesians sailed to Southern California a millennium before Christopher Columbus landed on the East Coast. Key new evidence comes from two directions. The first involves revised carbon-dating of an ancient ceremonial headdress used by Southern California's Chumash Indians. The second involves research by two California scientists who suggest that a Chumash word for "sewn-plank canoe" is derived from a Polynesian word for the wood used to construct the same boat.
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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: ancient; archaeology; california; did; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; godsgravesglyphsb; history; maybe; meadowcroft; polynesians; so; visit
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posted on
06/20/2005 3:27:06 PM PDT
by
blam
To: SunkenCiv; Coyoteman
GGG Ping.
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posted on
06/20/2005 3:29:50 PM PDT
by
blam
To: blam
I thought that ancient gerbil loving gay pirates first discovered Kalifornia?
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posted on
06/20/2005 3:34:02 PM PDT
by
lormand
(George W. Bush is saving your ass, whether you like it or not.)
To: blam
Interesting article - thanks for posting it.
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posted on
06/20/2005 3:37:44 PM PDT
by
Blue Champagne
(Quomodo cogis comas tuas sic videri?)
To: blam
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posted on
06/20/2005 3:39:27 PM PDT
by
TGOGary
(I would blow my brains out before ever wearing a blue beret.)
To: blam
There is no question about it...records show the Portuguese treated them to a cod fish dinner when they made it to shore.
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posted on
06/20/2005 3:41:20 PM PDT
by
rudyudy
To: blam
Interesting. Just an aside, but is it just me, or did everyone except European Christians visit North America prior to 1492? Sure seems that way, from all the articles the last few years.
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posted on
06/20/2005 3:41:22 PM PDT
by
A Balrog of Morgoth
(With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the RINOs in terror before me.)
To: blam
James Michener first interested me in this subject. Then I read anything possible about Polynesians. Then I read some sea lore from old and modern sea farers.
To me this makes sense. The only other ancient sea farers that I have ever read about that showed the sand of the Polynesians were, perhaps, the Vikings.
This is an interesting article.
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posted on
06/20/2005 3:44:13 PM PDT
by
stevem
To: blam
One of those Chumash Indians hollered "Surf's Up, Dude!" and the rest is history.
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posted on
06/20/2005 3:45:48 PM PDT
by
Diver Dave
(Stay Prayed Up)
To: blam
Nope... can't be... the mexicans were here first... La Raza Baby
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posted on
06/20/2005 3:50:13 PM PDT
by
ARA
To: blam
Hmmm... I wonder if the Polynesians were looking for the source of their redwood. That might make a plausible explaination of why they would travel to North America. That they could do it seems to me to be beyond debate. They were outstanding mariners.
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posted on
06/20/2005 3:50:31 PM PDT
by
Redcloak
(We'll raise up our glasses against evil forces singin' "whiskey for my men and beer for my horses!")
To: blam
This is all very nice, but the idea of some Polynesians setting out in a glorified canoe and making it to Hawaii just defies all common sense (and they had to take women with them). How many Polynesian canoes would have to leave their islands and miss Hawaii completely for even one to reach one of the Hawaiian Islands (which they supposedly didn't know existed)? The only way the Polynesians could have made it to Hawaii is if someone gave them a map, and even then it would be a stretch.
ML/NJ
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posted on
06/20/2005 3:52:10 PM PDT
by
ml/nj
To: ml/nj
That would explain why there are no Hawaiians in Hawaii. They're all back on the beach on Tahiti.
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posted on
06/20/2005 3:56:04 PM PDT
by
Redcloak
(We'll raise up our glasses against evil forces singin' "whiskey for my men and beer for my horses!")
To: ml/nj
Ummm..
You're questioning whether the Polynesians made it to HAWAII?
That's not disputed at all. Every single scientist agrees the Hawaiians are Polynesians; genetic evidence shows they are and the languange and archaelogy confirm this obvious conclusion.
The Polynesians made some incredible, long voyages without knowing where they were going in settling most of the places where they ended up.
To: blam
The Chumash I've met certainly look Polynesian to me. Some of the women are real knockouts so long as they control their weight.
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posted on
06/20/2005 4:02:21 PM PDT
by
GOP_1900AD
(Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
To: ml/nj
You'd be amazed. Ancient mariners throughout the world used basic celestial navigation and the effects of distant islands on wave patterns and the like to get around. Sometimes they'd have to spiral around a bit but eventually they'd find land. The best were the Greeks, the Vikings and of course, the Polynesians.
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posted on
06/20/2005 4:05:27 PM PDT
by
GOP_1900AD
(Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
To: ml/nj
How many Polynesian canoes would have to leave their islands and miss Hawaii completely for even one to reach one of the Hawaiian Islands (which they supposedly didn't know existed)?
58.5 miles per hour.
Actually if they "miss Hawaii completely" they would NEVER
reach one of the Hawaiian Islands.
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posted on
06/20/2005 4:06:08 PM PDT
by
tet68
( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
To: jan in Colorado; Dark Skies; Fred Nerks
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posted on
06/20/2005 4:06:27 PM PDT
by
USF
(I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
To: MoJo2001
AHA! I KNEW you were a whacko Californian in disguise!
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posted on
06/20/2005 4:06:29 PM PDT
by
El Gran Salseron
( The comments of this poster are meant for self-amusement only! Read at your own risk! :-))
To: blam
I'm getting tired of these. What we gotta really know is whether or not Californians ever sailed to California.
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posted on
06/20/2005 4:08:03 PM PDT
by
righttackle44
(The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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