At the next level you learn the "victory dance" and the secret password.
Posted on 06/18/2005 7:04:07 PM PDT by CHARLITE
Few e-mails have ever stopped me as cold as the one I am about to describe. In it, the author, a former university professor who wishes to remain anonymous, claims to know the actual mechanism behind intelligent design. That is the mechanism by which God created the universe, our world and all biological life within it.
This is especially intriguing as Darwin's theory of evolution is now hotly contested by arguments of intelligent design. One weakness of ID is its failure to offer a mechanism to counter evolution's bogus explanation of diversity through macro-mutation. As a result, ID has failed in broad view to distinguish itself as a true scientific theory on the origin of life.
Now, I admit the original e-mail has all the makings of a possible hoax. On the other hand, it could possibly produce one of the most fantastic breakthroughs in scientific theory since Darwin. So which is? I'll let you decide.
For the sake of brevity, what follows is an excerpted and edited summary of the author's theory. Additionally, I have expanded a few key concepts for clarity. A link to the full text in its original format can be found at the close of my commentary.
The mechanism behind intelligent design
This theory comes from a critical analysis of the Big Bang theory, Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity and quantum physics. The concepts behind this scientific knowledge can be understood by any person with a modern education and should be known to all.
In the Bible, we are told that God created the universe out of nothing by using light. This is confirmed by modern cosmologists. They acknowledge physical existence had a beginning from complete nothingness (no time, no space and no matter). Then from a single focal point of light the physical world came into existence initially in the form of sub-atomic particles, i.e., the Big Bang theory. Of primary importance were the protons, neutrons and electrons, the basic building blocks of all matter that now exists in the physical universe.
After this explosive event, these sub-atomic particles were sometime later transformed into atomic nuclei and the various elements. When asked why the sub-atomic particles joined together into the more complex arrangements of nuclei and elements, science answers that it is due to the "electromagnetic force." This EMF is carried out through an exchange of photons, which are light energy. For example, a photon is emitted by an atom during a transition from one energy state to another.
Both the Big Bang event and subsequent arrangement of sub-atomic particles, therefore, provide our first opportunity to see light as the interface between the non-physical (spiritual) world and physical existence. Think about it. From light came matter. Then that matter was organized into various elements by EMF.
This is supported by Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity concerning the characteristics of light. Specifically, photons of light can behave dually like a stream of high-speed, submicroscopic particles, but also like a wave phenomenon. A wave is defined as a disturbance that propagates and carries energy. As a wave, light does not show the physical property of mass. This non-material characteristic, once again, reveals light as an interface between the non-physical (spiritual) world and the physical universe.
Science can confirm at the sub-atomic, atomic and molecular levels that changes are often due to information passed by an exchange of light energy. Unfortunately, as we reach the next level of complexity, which is the progression from the molecular stage to biological life, the processes exceed our current ability to appropriately dissect. But through logic, extrapolation and preliminary scientific findings, we may fairly hypothesize that the same method of applying EMF/light is used as in the earlier stages of progressive development.
For example, the changes from one life form to another may require only slight alterations and/or additions to the overall structure of the DNA molecule. These small structural changes would not occur by mutation as the theory of evolution suggests, but rather by EMF causing and creating ever-increasing complex relationships between the nucleotides along the DNA strand. The combined effects of these small structural changes to the DNA molecule would be sufficient to create progressively complex physical life. This explains how a human has only double the number of genes as a fruit fly. The amount of DNA didn't need to proportionately increase with human complexity; rather complexity of the relationships among existing nucleotides needed to increase.
This hypothesis on the origin of life provides a scientifically testable alternative to the mechanism of macro-mutation offered by evolution. My reason for sharing this theory is that I find it intriguing, but I do not have the expertise in physics to test it adequately. I do know as a molecular biologist that Darwin's theory is unworkable. So my hope is this presentation will intrigue others who are qualified to determine whether this theory has sufficient merit to develop it further, dismiss it entirely or rework into something more plausible.
In closing, it is of interest to recall that according to the Bible, God created the world and all that is in it through Christ Jesus who identifies himself as the Light of the World. The full text of the e-mail can be read at http://www.ScienceMinistries.org.
Kelly Hollowell, J.D., Ph.D., is a scientist, patent attorney and adjunct law professor of bioethics. She is a senior strategist for the Center for Reclaiming America, a conference speaker and founder of Science Ministries Inc.
Ah is confoosed.....what came first, DNA or the ribosome that read the DNA?...ribosome, DNA, ribosome, DNA, ribosome, DNA....or, is it true that the ribosome that read the 1st DNA coded for itself to have more ribosomes through the 2nd DNA?...so if I understand it right, the first ribosome and the first DNA developed independently, and yet knew of each other in advance so as to continue to propagate each other codependently.....interesting THEORY...
95% is more like it that is if you are just taking a code for code comparison which is not necessarily the best way to determine functional similiarity. A %5 difference is sizable when we realize we are talking %5 of 3 billion base pairs. That is why one has to be careful in how such differences are minimized. Also a recent study confirmed that the increase in brain size was a special event involving a rapid series of complex advantegous changes in several genes rather than a series of simple changes as previously thought. I think what is often ignored is that common design may be more the rule than common ancestry. Many similiar genetic features have arisen in populations that are distinct. When working from bones alone one could easily mistake a tasmanian wolf(now extinct) for a member of the canine family. I'm not saying that human beings don't have any monkey heritage but I also don't believe that the huge differences between apes and man in cognitive ability and capability can be explained by random mutations combined with natural selection pressures. There just isn't enough time for it also many of the adaptations were not advantageous from a physical standpoint and would've placed early man at a disadvantage, men are far weaker than apes, a common chimp can easily tear one limb from limb if it so desired. One might say modern man lost such strength after he became civilized, but that is not supported by the bone evidence which suggests modern man hasn't changed much in 250,000 years. The muscles attach the same, the bones weren't bigger or thicker to accomodate greater muscle mass so we are left with a big question, was modern man's intelligence alone enough to allow the first modern infants to survive grow to adulthood and reproduce? The crossing of the bridge between ape-like man and humans is a short but deep gap. And the idea that modern humans had the clear advantage becomes less clear the more we look at the transition period and what would've been required to make that leap. The one thing that is certain is the leap had to be made, weak infants with "higher intelligence" survived, managed to interbreed and survive and create isolated successful communities, weapons et., while more robust HomoErectus and Neandrethals, creatures that had similar brain capacity and immense physical strength, disappeared.
http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/monkeywire/2002-September/000250.html
Maybe nothing happenned at all before something happenned.We assume an action reaction response but eventually at the end of all reason we face infinity where each layer reveals another layer and so on. How thin can we slice a second of time? What is the highest possible energies we can probe to find the smallest parts of matter? Conceptualization of something before the beginning of the universe we are apart of and the rules of which govern every atom and every possible perception we experience leaves us with a wall that can not be breached unless of course we are more than the universe which our physical bodies are a part.
Oh really:
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was[1] on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.
Hmm. I've always held the theory that animals who evolved to mimick their environment, did so through a mechanizism whereby DNA modifications were the byproduct of the animals own visual image processing. i.e. there is a link between what you see and what you become through evolution.
I'm not addressing anything about the theory that this thread is based on, but EMF is the force used in particle accelerators(protons and neutrons).
Um, no.
The electromagnetic force can be used to accelerate protons, but it doesn't work on neutrons. That's cuz they aren't charged, you see. And I do know about this, because I am a particle physicist.
One thing really puzzles me about the ID theory: why do so many Christians seem to like it despite the fact that ID theory directly conflicts with the Bible? I suppose I can understand that a sufficiently twisted version of evolution could be interpreted to conflict with the Christian account of Creation, but since ID is entirely based upon a premise that is completely contrary to Christian theology, I can't see any way to reconcile the two.
Oh, BTW: in addition to being a particle physicist, I am also a Christian.
Where does it say this?
The Bible says that God created the universe by the word of His mouth, not by light. (Psa. 33:6, 9; Heb. 11:3) "..so that things that are seen were not made of things which do appear."
The EMF is used to accelerate the protons which then are used to produce the neutrons.
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Hello Tim,
You're right! Our usual particle machinery cannot accelerate neutrons and other neutral particles. However, we can create neutrons which are traveling very fast.
The best way to do this is via something called "spallation". Basically, when a high-energy proton (protons are charged, and easy to accelerate!) crashes into a nucleus, it will knock out a big spray of neutrons, protons, nuclear fragments, pions, muons, etc., all mixed together and traveling forward (in the same direction as the original proton) at high speed. (The verb "to spall" means "to split or chip; to detach small pieces")
Spallation isn't very useful unless you can sort out the neutrons from the rest of the spray. Fortunately this isn't too difficult. To sort out charged particles, pass the spallation products through a large magnetic field; charged particles will be deflected. You don't need to worry about other neutral particles (pions, lambdas, whatever) since they tend to decay within millimeters of the collision. The only thing in your "beam" a few meters away are the neutrons.
Also Weapons Neutron Research facility
Welcome to WNR
At WNR, high-energy neutrons and protons are used for basic and applied research in neutron nuclear science and weapons-related measurements. WNR consists of two target areas and their associated flight paths. Target 2, or the Blue Room, consists of a low-background room with seven flight paths that can exploit the variable-energy feature of the linac using proton beams from 250 to 800 MeV. Target 4, the most intense high-energy neutron source in the world, consists of an unmoderated neutron production target with six flight paths ranging from 10 to 90 m at angles of 15º to 90º with respect to the proton beam. The time structure of the proton beam can be modified to produce neutron pulses with different spacings for particular experiments.
More specifically, we're descendants of Noah's family, which included three spouses who weren't of his blood line.
1 : And the LORD spake unto Moses and to Aaron, saying unto them,
2 : Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, These are the beasts which ye shall eat among all the beasts that are on the earth.
3 : Whatsoever parteth the hoof, and is clovenfooted, and cheweth the cud, among the beasts, that shall ye eat.
4 : Nevertheless these shall ye not eat of them that chew the cud, or of them that divide the hoof: as the camel, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.
5 : And the coney, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.
6 : And the hare, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.
7 : And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you.
8 : Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcase shall ye not touch; they are unclean to you.
9 : These shall ye eat of all that are in the waters: whatsoever hath fins and scales in the waters, in the seas, and in the rivers, them shall ye eat.
10 : And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you:
11 : They shall be even an abomination unto you; ye shall not eat of their flesh, but ye shall have their carcases in abomination.
12 : Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you.
13: And these are they which ye shall have in abomination among the fowls; they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray,
14: And the vulture, and the kite after his kind;
15:Every raven after his kind;
16:And the owl, and the night hawk, and the cuckow, and hawk after his kind,
17:And the little owl, and the cormorant, and the great owl,
18: And the swan, and the pelican, and the gier eagle,
19 : And the stork, the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat.
20 : All fowls that creep, going upon all four, shall be an abomination unto you.
21 : Yet these may ye eat of every flying creeping thing that goeth upon all four, which have legs above their feet, to leap withal upon the earth;
Levitcus clearly identifies bats as unclean fowl. They are mammals, obviously. Genesis too refers to bats as birds and Verse 21 above refers to flying, creeping things that go on all fours. Seen any of those?
I don't agree that a hell of a lot happened before the Big Bang. There isn't a hell of a lot that is south of the South Pole, now, is there?
BTTT
And I know very little about particle accelerators, but using magnetic fields to accelerate atomic particles is one thing; separating the particles from their original atoms is another.
I think radioactive material sources protons for accelerators. In other words, a source undergoing atomic decay naturally emits a proton and EMF focuses the particle into a high speed path through the accelerator.
I think one has to discriminate between evolution and Darwinism. Darwin's personal (if disguised) atheism colors his science, as we can see more clearly in his "Descent of Man." Interestingly enough, Wallace's more circumspect but virtually identical views, have been forgotten.
At the next level you learn the "victory dance" and the secret password.
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