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Let McCain know what YOU think (McCain disappoints conservatives)
AZ Policy ^ | Len Munsil

Posted on 05/24/2005 5:23:21 PM PDT by hsmomx3

Yesterday we were within a few hours of a historic vote to allow the U.S. Senate to exercise its constitutional option to confirm judges by majority vote. That vote would have allowed all pending nominees and future Supreme Court nominees to receive an "up or down" vote, and paved the way for President Bush to more effectively restore the judiciary to its proper constitutional role by appointing to the federal bench judges who are not activists.

The votes were there to pass it. But today, in exchange for allowing a few judges to receive full votes, seven Republicans betrayed their colleagues and Majority Leader Frist and sacrificed the principle that the filibuster should not be used to block judicial nominees - a Senate tradition in place for more than 200 years. Remember Justice Clarence Thomas? He was confirmed by a vote of 52-48 while Democrats controlled the Senate, just 14 years ago! Why wasn't he filibustered?

Because to filibuster a judicial nominee was unthinkable to Democrats 14 years ago. This "deal" is a disaster and a sell-out of the "values voters" who believed Republican promises that reigning in an out-of-control judiciary was their top priority. Conservative senators and national leaders are outraged.

If you are disappointed in Sen. McCain's role in facilitating this decision to snatch defeat and compromise from the jaws of victory, please call him at 202-224-2235 or email him at john_ mccain@mccain.senate.gov and let him know how you feel.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: 109th; filibuster; judges; mccain; mccrook
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To: ClancyJ
No, just asking that we all leave that aspect out of any expressions of our shared dislike for his egoism and playing to MSM for political purpose. Essentially, what I'm asking is that Senator McCain's military service be placed OFF-LIMITS in any discussion of his politics.
61 posted on 05/24/2005 8:22:15 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: FROGTOWN CONSERVATIVE

I'll let McStain know what I think, when he runs for President, without saying a word.


62 posted on 05/24/2005 8:25:57 PM PDT by Paul Atreides (FACT: You can get more reliable information in a beauty shop, than from the media)
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To: NPeery

really, tell me why he can't raise his arms above his head?

this is the way you treat vets?


63 posted on 05/24/2005 8:30:13 PM PDT by all_views
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To: SandRat

Appears to me that many here try and drag out his POW status so that they can deflect the rage against him now.

I can assure you that I am outraged at McCain now and have been for two prior episodes. I don't need to go back to his service days to find complaints against him.

He will never have respect from me. I see him as he is - a traitor in our midst. And that is based on his actions today - not 30 years ago.


64 posted on 05/24/2005 8:36:15 PM PDT by ClancyJ (Florida Motto: Send me your weak, frail, elderly - and we will give them 'rest'".)
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To: MikeinIraq

65 posted on 05/24/2005 8:40:15 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (The theory of evolution is the great cosmogenic myth of the twentieth century - Michael Denton)
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To: hsmomx3

I already did. Even though I'm a constituent, this dirtbag has plenty of Democrats, Independents, and illegals more than willing to keep voting him into office. He doesn't need us conservatives. He's a "maverick", ya know.

Any state that would vote Butch Napolitano and Jim Kolbe into office has real problems, not just McCain.


66 posted on 05/24/2005 8:46:30 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: FROGTOWN CONSERVATIVE

"Nothing cushy about being shot down and held hostage by the NVETS"

I agree but I have heard stories by those who were in Hanoi Hilton of special treatment for Admiral's sons. I wasn't there.


67 posted on 05/24/2005 8:58:30 PM PDT by lawdude (Liberalism is a mental disease.)
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To: MysticCrusader
It is time to leave the Republican party. What about the Constitution Party?

Leave on account of seven RINO's? Hell no. If you feel betrayed, don't let me stop you from leaving.

68 posted on 05/24/2005 9:06:42 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Don't hate me because I'm a player)
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To: SandRat
He should have never received his wings in the first place. The only reason he did is that daddy was a high ranking Admiral. He crashed one to many planes in flight school. Had he not had the Navy silver spoon he would have never been in the air to be shot down and all the hoopla about his heroism would be moot. I take nothing from the man for surviving as a POW, but I get tired of hearing about his heroism.

Sorry to rant but in my minds eye since his military service and in regards to his affiliation with what is supposed to be the conservative party, he is a traitor and has been for quite a while. He has chosen to show little if any fidelity to the Constitution of this Republic contrary to both his Oath as a Naval Officer and an elected representative, much less his poitical party and the leader of that party currently occupying the WH.

Not meant to disparage you at all. All my thoughts are about Senator McQueeg. He is a nut case and not fit for service in this Republic.

69 posted on 05/24/2005 9:30:02 PM PDT by ImpBill (Nothing More!)
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To: BigSkyFreeper; BibChr

Agree with both of you -- only cares about himself and he could care less about what conservatives think -- Dan you are right -- only the media matters.


70 posted on 05/24/2005 10:01:14 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Mary Fallin for OK Governor; Allen in 2008)
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To: hsmomx3

71 posted on 05/24/2005 10:10:08 PM PDT by ran15
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To: NPeery

McCain might as well team with Hillary because he'll NEVER get the Republican vote. We will unify so fast on an anti-McCain ticket in the primary it'll make his wobbly head spin.


72 posted on 05/24/2005 10:45:07 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: SandRat
"Let me just ask: When did you graduate from Pensicola Naval Aviation Cadet Training? When did you finish your Carrier Quals? How many successful traps on that postage stamp of an airfield in an F-4 Phantom have you made in the open sea?"

None of the above, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night

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73 posted on 05/25/2005 12:38:23 AM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: M Kehoe
No strawberries but the steel balls.


74 posted on 05/25/2005 3:42:55 AM PDT by raybbr
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To: hsmomx3
McCain disappoints conservatives)

McCain is a liberal headcase masquerading as a conservative. He didn't disappoint conservatives who have the slightest knowledge of his past actions any more than Hitlery Clinton or upChuck Schemer disappoint conservatives because he ain't one.

75 posted on 05/25/2005 3:48:43 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
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To: SandRat
How many successful traps on that postage stamp of an airfield in an F-4 Phantom have you made in the open sea?

You're losing the battle, dude.

As a Navy guy, I know that normal people do not get a second and third chance to crash during training.

Normal people do not crash on the deck of a carrier, then get sent back to do it again...

Sure, it's not easy. I have flown lots of aircraft, but never jets onto a carrier. I've only been a passenger, once, in a catapulted take-off. Wow!

A friend flew A-6's off the Coral Sea, and described his experiences landing a night. He described it as hours of bliss (flying) interrupted by seconds of sheer terror (landing)! I don't need my butt puckered that much!

A hero can still be a traitor.

John McCain is not a hero, for being in a prison camp. He is a serviceman, that crashed, got caught, and held. As such, we should reward him with thanks, for his service, but not adulation. We don't need to give him the keys to anything! He sat, and we fought to get him (them) out.

Almost every day, a pilot lands on a carrier. Then he does it again, and again, for practice... If he can't make it flying properly, then he gets a desk (unless he is an admiral's son, of course).

McCain has never been a hero. He is just a returned prisoner of war... and tries to make us think he is our buddy, while doing this shiite!

As for me, he can now go back to VietNam. They'll still love him!

he·ro (hîr'ō) pronunciation n., pl. -roes.

1. In mythology and legend, a man, often of divine ancestry, who is endowed with great courage and strength, celebrated for his bold exploits, and favored by the gods.

2. A person noted for feats of courage or nobility of purpose, especially one who has risked or sacrificed his or her life: soldiers and nurses who were heroes in an unpopular war.

3. A person noted for special achievement in a particular field: the heroes of medicine. See synonyms at celebrity.

4. The principal male character in a novel, poem, or dramatic presentation.

http://www.answers.com/hero&r=67

76 posted on 05/25/2005 4:08:14 AM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: SandRat
McCain may very well have been all you claim he was. However, is actions betray the party platform HE accepted in 2004.

"President Bush has established a solid record of nominating only judges who have demonstrated respect for the Constitution and the democratic processes of our republic, and Republicans in the Senate have strongly supported those nominees. We call upon obstructionist Democrats in the Senate to abandon their unprecedented and highly irresponsible filibuster of President Bush’s highly qualified judicial nominees, and to allow the Republican Party to restore respect for the law to America’s courts."

trai·tor ( P ) Pronunciation Key (trtr) n.
One who betrays one's country, a cause, or a trust, especially one who commits treason.

In light of the above, I feel that McCain and the rest of his band of thugs can rightfully be called traitors to the party and the people which funded thier campaigns and elected them to office.

77 posted on 05/25/2005 4:13:49 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: ImpBill
Senator McQueeg....is a nut case and not fit for service in this Republic.

On that we can agree.

78 posted on 05/25/2005 5:26:10 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: hsmomx3
I already shot off my missile to McCain. That blinding-hot, meteor-like streak you all saw in the sky last night was my email to him.

I also fired off one to his pretty little dog, McGraham, also.

Leni

79 posted on 05/25/2005 5:30:21 AM PDT by MinuteGal ("The Marines keep coming. We are shooting, but the Marines won't stop !" (Fallujah Terrorists)
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis

Now that reply is funny.


80 posted on 05/25/2005 5:33:09 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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