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Frist Said to Have 'Nuclear Option' Votes
NewsMax ^ | 5/22/05 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 05/22/2005 9:36:11 AM PDT by wagglebee

Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist reportedly has the votes to enforce the so-called "nuclear option" against judicial filibusters instigated by Democrats, despite claims to the contrary by Minority Leader Harry Reid.

After a Thursday meeting with Senate Democrats, Reid boasted he was ready for the coming battle. "It was one of the most pleasant experiences of my entire life," he told reporters. "We walked out of there so united. We talked about what's going to happen after Tuesday," when the filibuster showdown is expected to come to head.

But according to New York Times columnist David Brooks, Reid was blowing smoke.

"Harry Reid, told a small group of us Friday he was cautiously optimistic that he had the votes to defeat the nuclear option, but I think he's wrong," Brooks said Sunday.

"John McCain, Lincoln Chafee, John Warner and maybe Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe will vote against the nuclear option, but none of the other Republicans are likely to."

"Bill Frist has the votes," he predicted.

Brooks also reports that attempts by Senate moderates to hammer out a deal to avoid the filibuster showdown have collapsed.

"The talks stalled. Joe Lieberman didn't bother to attend the final meeting. Positions will probably harden over the weekend, making a deal less likely tomorrow," he said.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; billfrist; constitutionaloption; democratnukereaction; democrats; execfilibusterbuster; filibuster; gop; judicialnominees; nuclearoption; reidsnuclearreaction; rinos; senate; senaterules; ussenate
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"Harry Reid, told a small group of us Friday he was cautiously optimistic that he had the votes to defeat the nuclear option, but I think he's wrong," Brooks said Sunday.

When the New York Slimes says the 'Rats have lost, they've lost!

1 posted on 05/22/2005 9:36:12 AM PDT by wagglebee
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To: wagglebee

to expand on your comment...


They didn't lose, they have been routed and totally....


2 posted on 05/22/2005 9:37:00 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (Is anyone else ready for football to begin again?)
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To: wagglebee

this vote, if its true, will end McCain's presidential bid.


3 posted on 05/22/2005 9:37:52 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: wagglebee

Good time to get your "Nuke the 'rats T-shirt.


4 posted on 05/22/2005 9:40:00 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: oceanview

Since the early spring of 2000, the only group who ever really believed that McPain had a shot at even being the GOP nominee was the media.


5 posted on 05/22/2005 9:41:02 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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Everyone forgets McManiac can pull a Ross Pirouette and run independent.

Leni

6 posted on 05/22/2005 9:43:30 AM PDT by MinuteGal ("The Marines keep coming. We are shooting, but the Marines won't stop !" (Fallujah Terrorists)
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To: wagglebee

Filibuster is wrong, any way you look at it.......it usurps the will of the voters as expressed by the elections that placed the Senators in office in proportion shown by the number of "majority" and "minority" parties.....filibuster is a perversion of Roberts Rules of Order that is absolutely contrary to the concept of "representative government", for good or bad.


7 posted on 05/22/2005 9:45:08 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: wagglebee

Looks like frat boy has grown a pair. Good for him.


8 posted on 05/22/2005 9:46:11 AM PDT by Search4Truth (When a man lies he murders some part of the world.)
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To: oceanview
this vote, if its true, will end McCain's presidential bid.

We can be grateful for that. Can you imagine that man in charge of our real nuclear options ?

9 posted on 05/22/2005 9:46:39 AM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: oceanview
this vote, if its true, will end McCain's presidential bid.

Such as they are. McCain said this morning that he is not worried because he has plenty of conservative support. This is his brain on drugs.

10 posted on 05/22/2005 9:47:16 AM PDT by Bahbah (Something wicked this way comes)
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Since the early spring of 2000, the only group who ever really believed that McPain had a shot at even being the GOP nominee was the media.

You're right. He is the darling of the MSM, but only because he's almost as anti-Bush as they are. Their adoration has milstakenly given him the idea that actual people give damn what he thinks. And that has allowed him to make a total idiot out of himself.

11 posted on 05/22/2005 9:47:38 AM PDT by ShowMeMom
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To: MinuteGal
"Everyone forgets McManiac can pull a Ross Pirouette and run independent."

Actually, it would be more like 1980, in which a "moderate" Republican, John Anderson, ran as an independent. It still did not stop Ronald Reagan from winning the presidential election, even though there was a defector from his party in the mix.

I think McCain would be in about the same territory. He would take more votes from a Democratic candidate, especially a Howard Dean/John Kerry leftist type, than he would from the Republican candidate. There are a lot more "moderate" Democrats than there are "moderate" Republicans.

12 posted on 05/22/2005 9:48:42 AM PDT by Joe Bonforte
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To: ShowMeMom
Their adoration has milstakenly given him the idea that actual people give damn what he thinks. And that has allowed him to make a total idiot out of himself.

I don't think I've ever heard it put better than that.

13 posted on 05/22/2005 9:48:47 AM PDT by Bahbah (Something wicked this way comes)
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To: MinuteGal

the POW issue will be McCains undoing......for his activities as a POW as well as his activities with kerry when they obfuxcated common sense and known facts to bring the issue to a dishonorable end in 1992.....


14 posted on 05/22/2005 9:48:50 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: MinuteGal
Everyone forgets McManiac can pull a Ross Pirouette and run independent.

With approximately the same results.

15 posted on 05/22/2005 9:49:25 AM PDT by ShowMeMom
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To: MinuteGal
Everyone forgets McManiac can pull a Ross Pirouette and run independent.

But, wouldn't he, unlike Perot, siphon votes from the Dems, rather than the pubbies?

16 posted on 05/22/2005 9:49:35 AM PDT by Abby4116
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To: MinuteGal
"Everyone forgets McManiac can pull a Ross Pirouette and run independent."

LET HIM. It's about time we Republicans split the Democratic vote. It would be great to have a 3-man race - 2 liberals and one conservative.

Come on Johnny Boy - I dare you.
17 posted on 05/22/2005 9:50:18 AM PDT by BobL
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To: wagglebee

I love the smell of Napalm in the morning...


18 posted on 05/22/2005 9:50:27 AM PDT by veronica (AntiCP - join the fun at the new forum...)
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To: wagglebee


Check this one out



19 posted on 05/22/2005 9:51:41 AM PDT by ThreePuttinDude (US servicemen, saving the world one day at a time)
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To: MinuteGal
Everyone forgets McManiac can pull a Ross Pirouette and run independent.

But he's likely to siphon off more democrats then pubbies.

20 posted on 05/22/2005 9:51:57 AM PDT by aquila48
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