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To: wagglebee

this vote, if its true, will end McCain's presidential bid.


3 posted on 05/22/2005 9:37:52 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: oceanview

Since the early spring of 2000, the only group who ever really believed that McPain had a shot at even being the GOP nominee was the media.


5 posted on 05/22/2005 9:41:02 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: oceanview
this vote, if its true, will end McCain's presidential bid.

We can be grateful for that. Can you imagine that man in charge of our real nuclear options ?

9 posted on 05/22/2005 9:46:39 AM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: oceanview
this vote, if its true, will end McCain's presidential bid.

Such as they are. McCain said this morning that he is not worried because he has plenty of conservative support. This is his brain on drugs.

10 posted on 05/22/2005 9:47:16 AM PDT by Bahbah (Something wicked this way comes)
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To: oceanview

Outstanding first benefit of the battle!


28 posted on 05/22/2005 9:56:08 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
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To: oceanview
this vote, if its true, will end McCain's presidential bid.

< Not if he runs as a Democrat.

33 posted on 05/22/2005 10:00:14 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Delenda est Liberalism!)
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To: oceanview

McCain's presidental is DOA regardless.


43 posted on 05/22/2005 10:09:31 AM PDT by demkicker (Warning the GOP Senators: Nuke the filibuster!)
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To: oceanview
this vote, if its true, will end McCain's presidential bid.

............and any funding that benefits Chaffee, McCain, Snow, Warner, and that band of pathetic wimps!

58 posted on 05/22/2005 10:22:20 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: oceanview

And hopefully his political career as well. Amen,


62 posted on 05/22/2005 10:27:33 AM PDT by gakrak ("A wise man's heart is his right hand, But a fool's heart is at his left" Eccl 10:2)
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To: oceanview

"this vote, if its true, will end McCain's presidential bid."


And start his VP bid---Hillary/McCain in 2008!


65 posted on 05/22/2005 10:31:35 AM PDT by strategofr (What did happen to those 293 boxes of secret FBI files (esp on Senators) Hillary stole?)
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To: oceanview
The GOP will be in the same relative position in 2008 as the Dems were in during the Reagan and Bush-the-Elder period. Namely, any candidate capable of winning the primaries, and hence the nomination, will be unable to win the national election. The noise-makers within the party have moved so far to the extreme right and are a component of the religious fanactical cabal that the nominee will inevitably be unacceptable to the general public. The Dems suffered from that syndrome after Jummy Carter and their convention rule changes. It was only because of Bill Clinton's consummate political skills that they captured the White House for eight years.

The truism that "what goes around comes around," will haunt the GOP in the future if we do actually change the Senate rules and silence the minority. We Republicans will live to regret our ill-temper and impulsive inability to resist political muscle flexing.

70 posted on 05/22/2005 10:38:33 AM PDT by middie
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To: oceanview

McCain may have his system in place here in Arizona, but he is finished nationally. Only places where Dims and Indy's can crossover would make this drek competitive. He should re-register as a Democrat, because that's what he is.


103 posted on 05/22/2005 11:24:22 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: oceanview

I certainly hope so. McCain is a disaster. He is no friend of Bush. He tries to undermine everything this administration tries to do. McCain is playing to his media friends and thinks he can swing enough support to win Presidential support. I think he is a loser waiting to happen again and again and again.


113 posted on 05/22/2005 11:36:56 AM PDT by conservative blonde (Conservative Blonde)
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To: oceanview
this vote, if its true, will end McCain's presidential bid

I am not so sure. McCain scored alot of points with me during the 2004 presidential campaign. I imagine he did so with other conservatives.

But almost all the other time he is an antagonist to Bush, to include this issue. His one saving grace has been his pro-life stance, but this judge nomination fracas is all about pro-life versus pro-abortion forces. He is ruining his primary chances by siding with the pro-abortion crowd on this one. If a nominee is really so outrageous to be worthy of a filibuster, he will most likely fail in the up or down vote itself. This whole deal is a ruse by the democrats that is about to blow up in their faces. They would have been better served to have saved it for a Supreme Court nominee that they could not stomach. But alas, they are about to be rendered irrelevant. McCain, Snowe, Chafee, and any other "moderate" is about to be rendered irrelevant as well.

121 posted on 05/22/2005 11:57:32 AM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds, a pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: oceanview
McCain's presidential bid has been DOA since day 1. Just wish someone he trusts would tell him.

How petty it must be to go through his entire political life as a pain-in-the-arse!

151 posted on 05/22/2005 3:28:30 PM PDT by Don Carlos (Me cache en los Moros. (Ancient Spanish curse))
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To: oceanview
this vote, if its true, will end McCain's presidential bid.

McCain is a clown and an embarrassment to our party. He is definitely missing one oar, if you know what I mean.
161 posted on 05/22/2005 8:49:38 PM PDT by JayNorth
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To: oceanview
this vote, if its true, will end McCain's presidential bid.

A silver stake right through the heart.

169 posted on 05/22/2005 9:14:45 PM PDT by JCEccles (Andrea Dworkin--the Ward Churchill of gender politics.)
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To: oceanview

....Thank God....


179 posted on 05/23/2005 8:29:45 AM PDT by smiley
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