"Harry Reid, told a small group of us Friday he was cautiously optimistic that he had the votes to defeat the nuclear option, but I think he's wrong," Brooks said Sunday. When the New York Slimes says the 'Rats have lost, they've lost!
1 posted on
05/22/2005 9:36:12 AM PDT by
wagglebee
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To: wagglebee
to expand on your comment...
They didn't lose, they have been routed and totally....
2 posted on
05/22/2005 9:37:00 AM PDT by
MikefromOhio
(Is anyone else ready for football to begin again?)
To: wagglebee
this vote, if its true, will end McCain's presidential bid.
3 posted on
05/22/2005 9:37:52 AM PDT by
oceanview
To: wagglebee
Good time to get your "Nuke the 'rats T-shirt.
To: wagglebee
Everyone forgets McManiac can pull a Ross Pirouette and run independent.
Leni
6 posted on
05/22/2005 9:43:30 AM PDT by
MinuteGal
("The Marines keep coming. We are shooting, but the Marines won't stop !" (Fallujah Terrorists)
To: wagglebee
Filibuster is wrong, any way you look at it.......it usurps the will of the voters as expressed by the elections that placed the Senators in office in proportion shown by the number of "majority" and "minority" parties.....filibuster is a perversion of Roberts Rules of Order that is absolutely contrary to the concept of "representative government", for good or bad.
To: wagglebee
Looks like frat boy has grown a pair. Good for him.
8 posted on
05/22/2005 9:46:11 AM PDT by
Search4Truth
(When a man lies he murders some part of the world.)
To: wagglebee
I love the smell of Napalm in the morning...
18 posted on
05/22/2005 9:50:27 AM PDT by
veronica
(AntiCP - join the fun at the new forum...)
To: wagglebee
19 posted on
05/22/2005 9:51:41 AM PDT by
ThreePuttinDude
(US servicemen, saving the world one day at a time)
To: wagglebee
In the immortal words of Pres. Whitmore: Nuke em. Nuke the #@$%@&^*!
21 posted on
05/22/2005 9:52:20 AM PDT by
mewzilla
To: wagglebee
When the New York Slimes says the 'Rats have lost, they've lost! A long way to go yet (and the Dem's are trying to find a way to slime one more GOP'er).
And when the NYT admits the Dem's have lost before the game is even over....My antenna goes up? (and not in a good way).
To: wagglebee
I stand by my prediction.
If Reid doesn't have the votes to win on the nuclear option then the Dems will supply the votes necessary to get to the 60 needed for cloture, tuck their tails between their legs, stall the Senate in several minor ways, piss and moan, but in the end regroup to fight this battle on another day when they might be able to muster the one or two additional votes they need to beat Frist.
There will be no vote on the nuclear option. Neither side really wants and it won't be needed. For McPain and the other RINOs, their cover will be lost and they will have to go on record and vote up or down for a bunch of Bush nominees that are way too conservative for them. That is what all this deal making has been about. They don't want to go on the record one way or the other. They don't want to vote yes because they don't like the nominees. They don't want to vote no because it would hurt them with the party base. Much easier to just let the Dems kill the nominations. But it's not going to turn out that way. Frist will win.
To: wagglebee
Successfully busting the filibuster means nothing less than the successful future of the Republican Party. The importance of winning on this cannot be overstated.
To: wagglebee
"John McCain, Lincoln Chafee, John Warner and maybe Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe will vote against the nuclear option, but none of the other Republicans are likely to." This should be a test of party loyalty. A no vote should mean committee reassignments. If the RINOs want to be Democrooks, so be it.
To: wagglebee
If Frist doesn't have the votes, the Rhino's will become goats.
What happened to you Frist? I thought I had the votes.
51 posted on
05/22/2005 10:15:37 AM PDT by
csvset
To: wagglebee
Don't celebrate yet guys. There are still a lot of people who could go wobbly on us.
It's not over until Barbara Mikulski sings.
53 posted on
05/22/2005 10:17:43 AM PDT by
Tall_Texan
(If you can think 180-degrees apart from reality, you might be a Democrat.)
To: wagglebee
"seems to have the votes."
Well, DUH!!!! ANYTIME the Dems start offering deals, they are LOSING. What is so freakin' hard about this to understand if you're the lamestream media?
55 posted on
05/22/2005 10:20:23 AM PDT by
LS
(CNN is the Amtrak of news)
To: wagglebee
The article Carl is referring to was posted in unnecessarily excerpted form
here on FR.
You can read the entire article on the NYT website by following this link:
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/22/opinion/22brooks.html?pagewanted=print
Oh, and if you're asked to log in, feel free to use my
Member ID: upchuck6
and my
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56 posted on
05/22/2005 10:21:13 AM PDT by
upchuck
("If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
To: wagglebee
"John McCain, Lincoln Chafee, John Warner and maybe Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe will vote against the nuclear option, but none of the other Republicans are likely to." Then Cheney gets to vote.
59 posted on
05/22/2005 10:22:25 AM PDT by
demlosers
("freedom to attack as well as freedom from attack")
To: wagglebee
Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist reportedly has the votes to enforce the so-called "nuclear option" against judicial filibusters instigated by Democrats, despite claims to the contrary by Minority Leader Harry Reid. Which means of course that you can count on Frist not to go through with it but to cut a deal to try to look like a "statesman" for his presidential bid.
63 posted on
05/22/2005 10:29:15 AM PDT by
Rodney King
(No, we can't all just get along.)
To: wagglebee
But according to New York Times columnist David Brooks, Reid was blowing smoke. According to SkyPilot, the New York Times is blowing smoke by denying Frist has the votes.
69 posted on
05/22/2005 10:38:06 AM PDT by
SkyPilot
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