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Los Angeles Mayoral Election Results
City Of Los Angeles City Clerk's Office ^ | 5/17/05

Posted on 05/17/2005 8:43:15 PM PDT by MplsSteve

The first election results are in...mail ballots only.

Rounding off the numbers, it come out to 51% for Villaraigosa and 49% for Hahn.

Do these numbers look better for either candidate?

Opinions anyone?


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: elections; hahn; lamayor; losangeles; mayor; villaraigosa
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To: MplsSteve

Who won, Tax or Spend?


61 posted on 05/17/2005 10:35:54 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: ambrose

Yup. Saw Meathead. Blah.

Well, at the moment, it's a wait and see. Though I don't see anything good coming out of a Antonio's admistration, Hahn wasn't exactly a saint either.


62 posted on 05/17/2005 10:35:56 PM PDT by Simmy2.5 (There are more conspiracies at DU then there are on Coast to Coast AM.)
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To: LexBaird
So, in a race between a democrat hack and an identical democrat hack, who gets to use the democrat fraudulent vote machinery?

LOL, very funny . . . good question!

63 posted on 05/17/2005 10:43:39 PM PDT by gop_gene
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To: Diddle E. Squat

"Who won, Tax or Spend?"

Tax AND Spend will win.


64 posted on 05/17/2005 10:47:52 PM PDT by flaglady47
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To: MplsSteve

Villaraigosa has this in the bag. Villaraigosa has 58% to 42%. Although the valley precients are reporting in slowly, I seriously doubt that Hahn can over come that.

Interesting though, according to the Channel 9 exit poll (yeah, not exactly accurate), a majority of Asian Americans are actually voting for Hahn. And somehow, this surprises the commentator. Hmmmmmm.


65 posted on 05/17/2005 10:49:32 PM PDT by Simmy2.5 (There are more conspiracies at DU then there are on Coast to Coast AM.)
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To: Simmy2.5

Asians were and are Hahn's strongest constituency. I am not sure why. Maybe it is the law and order thingie.


66 posted on 05/17/2005 10:56:04 PM PDT by Torie (Constrain rogue state courts; repeal your state constitution)
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To: Torie

Asians probably like his reserved demeanor.

It is a weakness with just about every other demographic.


67 posted on 05/17/2005 11:03:09 PM PDT by ambrose (NEWSWEAK LIED .... AND PEOPLE DIED)
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To: flaglady47
Who won, Tax or Spend?"

Tax AND Spend will win

Mexico won!!!!!!!!!

68 posted on 05/17/2005 11:03:30 PM PDT by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift my eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: ambrose

Good observation. And of course, Asians are not plugged into the main power arteries in the town. They are too busy making money in the private sector, and have not figured out how to purchase local hack politicians yet. Give them time.


69 posted on 05/17/2005 11:05:48 PM PDT by Torie (Constrain rogue state courts; repeal your state constitution)
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To: Torie
Maybe. And it's also I believe, because Asians are generally more conservative then other minority groups (especially the Vietnamese). Exception in areas like extremely liberal cities...like San Francisco (where EVERYONE is liberal. Or almost everyone). But even here, I think Asians are more conservative since unlike certain groups, Asians don't ask for handouts, and own quite a lot of businesses, and are generally more successful then other groups that have been here longer (my parents are first generation immigrants who, pretty much came here with little, and are not pretty well off).

In a city that lacks a true conservative candidate, best choice would be Hahn.

70 posted on 05/17/2005 11:08:04 PM PDT by Simmy2.5 (There are more conspiracies at DU then there are on Coast to Coast AM.)
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To: FairOpinion

**26% reporting, Villaraigosa is way ahead. 55.7 to 44.27.

What is the matter with people?!**

The demographics of the country have been changing for the last 40 years (and continue to do so), and changing for the worse.

Therefore the pool of voters is shifting with dire consequences. It won't be long now before America will have lost its consensus.


71 posted on 05/17/2005 11:08:58 PM PDT by Baraonda (Demographic is destiny. Don't hire 3rd world illegal aliens nor support businesses that hire them.)
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To: Simmy2.5

Vietnamese live in Orange County, not LA. LA is Chinese and Korean primarily.


72 posted on 05/17/2005 11:09:51 PM PDT by Torie (Constrain rogue state courts; repeal your state constitution)
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http://cityclerk.lacity.org/clk/election/Results.htm

Bulletin #5 10:55:09 PM
PERCENT REPORTING  16.38 

                               VOTES        PERCENT
ANTONIO R. VILLARAIGOSA       139,773       58.66
JAMES KENNETH HAHN             98,486       41.34

73 posted on 05/17/2005 11:12:06 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: Torie

Forgot about that. Still, I was commenting on how Asians are generally more conservative. First thing that came to mind was Vietamese since they are pretty much overwhelmingly conservative.

Though even Chinese and Koreans are generally more conservative. Though with some recent immigration from Red China, and the later generations being more lazy (i.e. more Democratic. :-P) you are getting more Democratic voters here. That and you get the case where, sure, we believe in hard work, strong families, etc. but we're still voting Democrat voters.

Still, I will say that Asians are not that powerful politically yet.


74 posted on 05/17/2005 11:15:33 PM PDT by Simmy2.5 (There are more conspiracies at DU then there are on Coast to Coast AM.)
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To: calcowgirl; Torie

SurveyUSA's final poll had it 60 to 36:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1404549/posts


Antonio had almost a free ride when Hahn barely limped to a runoff. Hertzberg vs Antonio would have been razor thin close.


75 posted on 05/17/2005 11:21:36 PM PDT by ambrose (NEWSWEAK LIED .... AND PEOPLE DIED)
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To: pollywog

Has any group ventured a guess as to how many illegals would be voting in this election?


76 posted on 05/17/2005 11:24:08 PM PDT by Route66 (America's Main Street)
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To: ambrose
http://cityclerk.lacity.org/clk/election/Results.htm

Bulletin #6  11:27:54 PM 
PERCENT REPORTING 20.45 

                               VOTES        PERCENT
ANTONIO R. VILLARAIGOSA       175,941       59.12
JAMES KENNETH HAHN            121,662       40.88


77 posted on 05/17/2005 11:45:11 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: ambrose

I found that article about Villaraigosa's support for gangs. (I've seen some years ago too, but this is a recent one)

Hahn's Anti-Gang Plan Has Its Skeptics

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-me-gangs4apr04,1,6442181.story?coll=la-home-local&ctrack=1&cset=true

Mayor James K. Hahn's latest crime-fighting proposal is breathtaking in scope: an injunction prohibiting Los Angeles gang members from congregating anywhere within the city's roughly 470 square miles.

Introducing the topic — even with few specifics and no overt support from local law enforcement officials — has allowed Hahn to project a tough-on-crime message. And it has given him a pretext to argue that Villaraigosa is weak on crime.

The day after he announced the plan, Hahn told reporters that Villaraigosa "took the side of the gang members" in a 1992 lawsuit that challenged a law banning gangs from a San Fernando city park. Villaraigosa was the sole plaintiff in the suit, which raised civil liberties issues similar to those raised in gang injunction cases.

At the time, Villaraigosa was vice president of the Southern California chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union, which has challenged a number of California gang injunctions and remains one of the chief critics of the tactic.

Hahn said his proposal would build on the success of the 25 gang injunctions currently in place throughout Los Angeles that affect almost a quarter of the 39,565 gang members identified by police.

Nine of those injunctions were won by Hahn when he served as city attorney from 1985 to 2001. Hahn said it was time to take the idea citywide to avoid simply moving gangs from one neighborhood to another — a criticism of injunctions that Villaraigosa leveled in the 2001 campaign.


78 posted on 05/17/2005 11:46:07 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: MplsSteve

Despite how many back him, Villaraigosa is a dangerous racist who is one of those la-raza activists.

I can see the man causing lots of problems with race in this city. He's too stupid to be subtle with his bigotry.

Look for more disruptions in gangs, riots and violence in general IMO.


79 posted on 05/17/2005 11:50:13 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: pollywog

"Mexico won!!!!!!!!!"

You got that right.


80 posted on 05/17/2005 11:50:29 PM PDT by flaglady47
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