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Bush demotes Army general in Abu Ghraib scandal (Karpinski finally fired formally)
Reuters ^ | May 5, 2005 | Will Dunham

Posted on 05/05/2005 8:10:56 PM PDT by No Longer Free State

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To: Former Military Chick
a colonel, four lieutenant colonels, three majors, 10 captains, four 1st lieutenants and two 2nd lieutenants

and an O-7 to boot ..... it looks like most of the Brigade's Chain of Command got hit! This really is something. I don't know too much about all the facts concerning her 'shoplifting' .... if it occurred as an Officer or NCO then something is really wrong ... but remember that both the VP and President have a criminal past ...

21 posted on 05/05/2005 9:29:17 PM PDT by Yasotay
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To: Yasotay

Thank you for such an excellent comment.

It is something that the command got hit, I hope more news will enlighten us to why the actions were taken.

It is just smarmy to have a Gen, shop lift in a military store. She has balls, that is for sure!


22 posted on 05/05/2005 9:37:59 PM PDT by Former Military Chick
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To: No Longer Free State

I'm just so tired of this story I don't know what to post. Bad soldiering, bad behaviour, and a bad media.


23 posted on 05/05/2005 9:38:31 PM PDT by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: Former Military Chick
Wow if she was commissioned while shoplifting, then she should be castrated!
24 posted on 05/05/2005 9:46:54 PM PDT by Yasotay
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To: Former Military Chick
Six will get you 20 that she could not have made it in the old W.A.C. to even 1LT. Her behavior from the start has been terrible. All she has done is behave like it's all everyone else's fault and that she's being picked on because of her gender. She has proven herself more fit to carry the Hod (device used for mucking out the horse stalls) than the Epaulet.

You're right, watch for AFP or Il Manifesto to interview her and wail how she's being picked on.
25 posted on 05/05/2005 10:00:11 PM PDT by AZHua87 (Insurgent BloggerVet!)
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To: Former Military Chick

I'm glad that Karpinski has at least been given some punishment for this fiasco, and that Sanchez - by most reliable accounts an honorable officer - has not been made to take the fall for this Clintonoid hack.


26 posted on 05/05/2005 10:21:13 PM PDT by Bogolyubski
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To: Former Military Chick

Yes to everything you said.


27 posted on 05/05/2005 10:31:16 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon (Recall Barbara Boxer)
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To: No Longer Free State

This bitch is still a colonel in the US Military? Isn't there something wrong with this picture?


28 posted on 05/05/2005 11:37:34 PM PDT by de Buillion (God bless John Moses Browning and the NRA)
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To: Former Military Chick
"While the demotion is fitting punishment "

You got this part wrong, her demotion 1 grade level is absolutely and completely NOT fitting punishment for all the degredation that the US suffered because of HER failure. This bitch should be doing jail time. SHOPLIFTING??????? A active duty Colonel in the US Military????? DUH!!!!

29 posted on 05/05/2005 11:50:36 PM PDT by de Buillion (God bless John Moses Browning and the NRA)
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To: PhilDragoo
bump!

30 posted on 05/06/2005 1:24:50 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Former Military Chick; Taxman; Warrior Nurse
Karpinski should have been court-martialed and demoted to PVT! The Army is soooooo easy on her.

If she was wearing a Marine Corps uniform, (which she would have had a very difficult time in achieving), she would have lost EVERYTHING and had hard time as well as a dishonorble discharge!

31 posted on 05/06/2005 3:04:29 AM PDT by Chieftain (Thanks to the Swift Boat Veterans, Vietnam Veterans, and POW's for Truth for standing tall.)
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To: Former Military Chick
"... I really REALLY am angry about the developments given in this interview. Her previous behavior should have impacted the punishment given ... "


While I understand your anger, the shoplifting charge was, and is, a look into the ex-generals character.

I am aware that none are perfect, however persons that are in positions of power, affecting the national interest, must be of unquestionable character.

I'm afraid we, as a nation, have become lost in political correctness and are using affirmative action, gender and other "feel good" methods to choose our leaders, much to the detriment of this great country. Exactly what our enemies, both foreign and domestic desire.

32 posted on 05/06/2005 3:20:09 AM PDT by G.Mason ( Because Free Republic obviously needed another opinionated big mouth ... Proud NRA member)
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To: No Longer Free State

If womyn and minorities are politically correct enough to be promoted to positions of authority and responsibility, they're politically correct enough to be demoted when they don't demonstrate proper authority and responsibility. This is a fine example of equal rights in action although I don't believe that the feminazis accept that.


33 posted on 05/06/2005 3:36:43 AM PDT by RushLake (Permission from the UN...we don't need no stinking permission slip from the UN.)
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To: Former Military Chick

Not to defend this idiot, but was she ever convicted of shoplifting? I see "arrest" but nothing beyond that listed.

That being asked, she still should have been busted down more... if she is still clinging to the "I had no clue what was going on in my command" as her defense, she doesn't deserve to have the bird on her uniform, that's for sure!


34 posted on 05/06/2005 4:41:52 AM PDT by Gondring (Pretend you don't know me...I'm in the WPPFF.)
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To: hellbilly
But...but....She made it a point to visit each of the prisons....at least once a month.

This cracked me up when I read it. Add this to the paper work not processed and she was just plain incompetent....but the pay was good.

35 posted on 05/06/2005 4:58:55 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: No Longer Free State

Excellent!


36 posted on 05/06/2005 4:59:47 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod (Pope Benedict XVI: Continuing to put the smackdown on heresy since 1981.)
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To: No Longer Free State
Same as usual. Years of prison time for the enlisted trash and a slap on the wrist for the officers. It is called Military "Justice".

One has only to remember the Navy episode of a few years back.

37 posted on 05/06/2005 5:05:27 AM PDT by cynicom (<p)
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To: El Gato
Not doing your job properly is not a crime, but may be a subject for disciplinary action.

No true. Karpinski was a commanding officer, and could have been court-martialed under at least 3 of the punitive articles of the UCMJ. I sense that she struck a deal, which ultimately kept others out of the limelight.

38 posted on 05/06/2005 6:41:34 AM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: Former Military Chick

Thanks for the ping. I agree with you and NLFS. For this woman to have been a general officer and a commander in Iraq says volumes about what the new "kinder, gentler military" has become. I was very much hoping for a court martial for her after hearing what she had said after the Abu Ghraib scandal broke. I simply cannot even fathom a general officer whining like that. This does smack of a deal to keep the lid on, but I might be wrong. If she refuses any further comments on the situation, a deal was likely struck.


39 posted on 05/06/2005 6:49:25 AM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: Chieftain

Your statement is wrong, and the last 30 years has demonstrated otherwise.


40 posted on 05/06/2005 7:28:35 AM PDT by Yasotay
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