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SCUD like missles in Morro Castle, Havana Cuba aimed north
The Real Cuba ^

Posted on 04/07/2005 12:22:20 PM PDT by mandingo republican

http://www.therealcuba.com/Missile1A.JPG http://www.therealcuba.com/Missile2.JPG

These unauthorized photos were taken by a tourist who, as he said in his e-mail to us, "sneaked out of the tourist area while visiting the Morro fortress" in Havana, Are these missiles operational? He says that he is 100% positive that they are. "They are behind the back wall. There is a military base there, as I saw jeeps approaching, I got the hell out of there pronto. It is a huge crime to photo things like that," he said. Maybe someone who is familiar with these type of missiles can identify them for us and provide information as to their range.


TOPICS: Cuba; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: 1somebodyset; 2upusthebomb; castro; commies; communism; cuba; missilenotmissle; missle; museumpieces; scud
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To: gridlock

I remember reading that the left was always ready to poop in their pants when they saw pix of the mayday parade every year, saying the soviets would destroy us with such weapons... turned out that a lot of what the soviets had on display didn't work anyway


21 posted on 04/07/2005 12:34:40 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (Look! Jimmy Carter! History's greatest monster!)
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To: cripplecreek
Those look like museum displys to me.

Yeah, really! And as if they're gonna launch a single SCUD at the U.S. Pretty laughable.

It is nice to see the Utopia that Elian Gonzalez had to go back to however!

22 posted on 04/07/2005 12:35:54 PM PDT by Fruitbat
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To: Fudd

yeah not only that, but its WAY too close to those buildings to be live. If those were to be launched, that building behind them would be toast.


23 posted on 04/07/2005 12:36:11 PM PDT by eXe (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Waterleak
"Much like the Serbians drawing outlines of tanks on the ground for our stealth bombers to bomb from 15k feet."
That trick won't work against an SAR radar.
24 posted on 04/07/2005 12:37:36 PM PDT by ProudVet77 (It's boogitty boogitty boogitty season!)
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To: ProudVet77
Dittos, looks like they couldn't get them up if they had to.

Ol' Fidel's got the same problem nowadays...

25 posted on 04/07/2005 12:38:03 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (If this isn't the End Times it certainly is a reasonable facsimile...)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Ah, the good old days!

Also, note from the Morro Castle picture, there is no place for a tranport truck to pull the SS-4 to, indicating that it is, most definitely, a static display.

As for field artillery in front of the town hall, my town was having a bit of a hard time with the neighboring town over zoning a large retail development. In the middle of this argy-bargy, the artillery piece in front of Town Hall was turned around in the middle of the night to face the direction of the proposed development. Nobody owned up to that one...


26 posted on 04/07/2005 12:38:26 PM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: mandingo republican

They could have at least Photoshopped them to make them look remotely ready to launch. Does anybody thing you would mow around live missiles? What if you hit a rock and flung it into the side of the missile.


27 posted on 04/07/2005 12:38:34 PM PDT by JustRight
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

No, we aren't the same person. I have a fan club - there is a Freeper called Fudd_Fan (or something close to it).


28 posted on 04/07/2005 12:40:29 PM PDT by Fudd (Never confuse a liberal with facts.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Scud like?

They look like Antiaircraft to me.


29 posted on 04/07/2005 12:42:53 PM PDT by bert (Peace is only halftime !)
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To: mandingo republican

Museum pieces - inert.


30 posted on 04/07/2005 12:42:56 PM PDT by roaddog727 (The marginal propensity to save is 1 minus the marginal propensity to consume.)
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To: Fruitbat

The folks who run that website would be wise to remove those photos and stick to showing the run down nature of Cuba.


31 posted on 04/07/2005 12:43:41 PM PDT by cripplecreek (I'm apathetic but really don't care.)
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To: gridlock

Both appear to be 60's vintage (Cuban Missile Crisis) to Vietnam-era weapons.

The smaller white one is the classic SA-2 (NATO name: GUIDELINE) Soviet medium-to-high altitude surface-to-air missile. This type of missile shot down Gary Powers in his U2 and was used with some success by the North Vietnamese. http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/v-75.htm

The larger OD green one looks like some sort of SCUD variant. Neither one looks like it's actually functional.


32 posted on 04/07/2005 12:48:47 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: gridlock
Bring it on. Here's my towns "weapon" ready for launch. Image Hosted by ImageShack.us
33 posted on 04/07/2005 12:49:33 PM PDT by cripplecreek (I'm apathetic but really don't care.)
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To: JustRight
"What if you hit a rock and flung it into..."

That's why Juan was always selected to weed-eat around the thing.

34 posted on 04/07/2005 12:51:05 PM PDT by Deaf Smith
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

The smaller one is definitely an SA-2 Guideline. That's the same '50's/60's/Vietnam-era SAM used to take down Francis Gary Powers' U-2, among others. It's useless without its associated Fansong fire-directing radar set. The SA-2 is very probably museum 'quality'. It does not appear that the entire launcher is there either.


35 posted on 04/07/2005 12:55:26 PM PDT by xvq2er
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

I agree, they look like museum pieces for display.


36 posted on 04/07/2005 12:56:36 PM PDT by mnehring (http://www.matthewnehrlingmba.com)
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To: mandingo republican

Ole Feeble minded Fidel would think more than twice about doing this with this president.

He should have done it under Clinton. He'd have sent a peace mission under Jimmy Carter, we would have sued for terms of surrender and made restitution for 50 years of embargo..


37 posted on 04/07/2005 12:56:51 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Rule # 4. When liberals have factual evidence that their position is wrong they ignore the evidence)
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To: gridlock
Yeah, it's an SS-4 SANDAL, alright. I just flipped through all the SS variants, and nothing else looks quite like that with the tiny fins and slightly-belled rear end. Still looks like a SCUD, but the SCUD has much larger fins.


38 posted on 04/07/2005 12:59:16 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: gridlock
You would expect to see air defense missiles around a surface to surface missile installation.

This is way too close. Launching one would damage the other. I'll go with museum display.

39 posted on 04/07/2005 1:00:42 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Deadcheck the embeds first.)
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To: mandingo republican

To summarize: The big one is an SS-4 Medium Range Ballistic Missile, the smaller one is the SA-2 Surface To Air Missile. Neither one appears to be usable - both are missing major support equipment, and any electronics they may have had at one time or another are now useless.


40 posted on 04/07/2005 1:01:29 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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