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For many, Schiavo's life was an inspiration
Miami Herald ^ | April 6, 2005 | Phil Long

Posted on 04/06/2005 11:45:49 AM PDT by La Enchiladita

GULFPORT - In an emotional tribute at a memorial Mass, Terri Schiavo was praised Tuesday night as a remarkable woman, an inspiration to others and someone whose name will become a rallying cry to those who feel her death was an injustice.

''I am sorry, though, that pure love alone was not enough to keep you from harm,'' Schiavo's sister, Suzanne Vitadamo, told a crowd of more than 800 that overflowed and spilled outside the sanctuary of a St. Petersburg church Tuesday night.

''You are telling us not to be sad,'' Vitadamo said in a message to her sister, ``but to be happy because you are now free. You are a remarkable woman. Your smile brought us great joy. You have shown the world what perseverance and determination are all about.

''I miss you,'' Vitadamo said. ``We will forever be grateful to you.''

(Excerpt) Read more at miami.com ...


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To: La Enchiladita
''You are telling us not to be sad,'' Vitadamo said in a message to her sister, ``but to be happy because you are now free. You are a remarkable woman. Your smile brought us great joy. You have shown the world what perseverance and determination are all about.

The Schindler family has class and morals. They fought the good fight, but God has other plans for Terri. May God bless and protect her family, and heal them in their hour of need.

I'm getting a little sick of the ghoulish trolls on these threads. They have NO respect.

On another thread, amgdmary(not quite the correct name?) posted a pic of Bobby holding up the Purple Heart. I'm going to do whatever I can to prevent this horror from ever happening again.

21 posted on 04/06/2005 1:27:25 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Free Mexico!)
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To: green pastures

ping for later


22 posted on 04/06/2005 1:32:51 PM PDT by green pastures
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To: Dave S
Neither I, nor too many others I'm aware of have tried to cannonize her. Was I inspired by her? Yes. For somebody who, we were told, wanted to die, she certainly seemed to linger for quite while. I believe there was enough variance in medical opinion regarding her status to justify erring on the side of life, and I have personally witnessed enough starvation in my life to be convinced that it should not be a tool, means or end of our judicial system.

Whereas the rule of law is concerned, I agree that Jeb did the right thing, and the FL legislature screwed up. I do think it's a sad day for the rule of law when indeed a probate judge has the ultimate word over life or death regardless of what some may consider contentious medical opinions.

23 posted on 04/06/2005 1:38:02 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: Dave S

Sure glad I missed that one.


24 posted on 04/06/2005 1:56:57 PM PDT by ClancyJ (The Death Culture Movement - All of us are hosed no matter what we do)
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To: Joe 6-pack
"He apparently is so certain that allowing Terry Schiavo to starve was the proper thing to do, that any person moved with sympathy for her was/is obviously an idiot."

He did not say that starving Schiavo was the proper thing. You simply got pissed off because someone made an observation that is anathema to your mindset which then precipitated your visceral statement..

25 posted on 04/06/2005 1:58:09 PM PDT by verity (A mindset is a terrible thing to waste.)
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To: Dave S

I would not try and blame the Schlinders. They fought for 15 years, surely some time they did the right thing. However, they never won any round did they?

When the law chooses to circumvent the law and pick and choose which laws to honor and ignore others - you get a Schaivo case.

What about the laws on the books that no one can remove a feeding tube? What about ignoring a federal subpoena, what about ignoring the law calling for a re-review of the case. The Schlinders had nothing to do with all of that.

Like I have said, you will not get a legal fight where the legal system ignores a federal subpoena, ignores a law passed to re-review the case, thumbs its nose at a state governor's efforts to take custody, and insults the President and the legislature unless there is a mighty powerful force pushing it. It would not be merely one man trying to remove the feeding tube of a wife.

Mark my words, this is not the end of this battle and it makes one ponder as to the purpose.


26 posted on 04/06/2005 2:04:55 PM PDT by ClancyJ (The Death Culture Movement - All of us are hosed no matter what we do)
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To: Dave S

Well, since you asked---

First, it's not true that she had the same level of consciousness as a tree. She'd be closer, perhaps, to a 2 year old child (though it's impossible to know, from the outside, what she was experiencing on the inside.) There were looks, laughs, cries; she could track an object with her eyes. She could express emotional responses with her face: she lit up when she heard her mother's voice; she made a "lemon-face" when her father kissed her with his brushy moustache. She smiled and moved her hands when she heard her favorite music. And when a lawyer beseeched her to say, "I want to live," she said "AAAaaahhhhhh Waaaaaaahhh."

Yes. "AAaaahhhh Waaaaaahh." I felt like that the day she died.

Second, she apparently had an amazing will to live. She survived three different attempts to kill her when her food and water were cut off by her husband: in 2003, it was for 6 days. And the last time, she struggled on for 13 days before she died.

"Biologically tenacious," they call it.

I'm going to get me a T-shirt that says "biologically tenacious."

Look at me, I'm inspired again.

Mrs. Don-o


27 posted on 04/06/2005 2:12:38 PM PDT by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor.)
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To: La Enchiladita; 4Godsoloved..Hegave; 8mmMauser; a5478; atruelady; Brad's Gramma; Cayenne; ...

Terri ping! If anyone would like to be added to or removed from my Terri ping list, please let me know by FReepmail!


28 posted on 04/06/2005 2:22:15 PM PDT by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: verity
"He did not say that starving Schiavo was the proper thing. You simply got pissed off because someone made an observation that is anathema to your mindset which then precipitated your visceral statement.."

He did not state she should be starved. That was a logical (not visceral) conclusion drawn from what he did say. Read his post...Terri could not inspire, and did not have the capacity for heroism...he stated those things quite explicitly. He further implied that anyone who had any type of reaction to an innocent woman being starved to death surprised him. If that does not elicit a visceral response from you, I'll pray for your soul. Moreover, he likened her to a tree, making further explicit statements from him unecessary for me to make (rational) conclusions regarding his views on the status of Terri's personhood and the utility of other persons in her condition (as undetermined as that remained until the time of her death).

29 posted on 04/06/2005 2:22:23 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: MJM59

I would bet that the ones speaking up for not murdering U.S. citizens are also the same ones that honor our soldiers. After all, what are the soldiers fighting for?

I thought it was for our freedom and constitutional rights and for our safety. Why should we be quiet when that safety at home is being compromised by any that wish others dead?


30 posted on 04/06/2005 2:25:26 PM PDT by ClancyJ (The Death Culture Movement - All of us are hosed no matter what we do)
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To: MJM59

Most of Terri's supporter support the military. The only troop bashing I've seen on the Terri threads came from those supporting Terri's murder. So get off your soap box.


31 posted on 04/06/2005 2:27:12 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri Schindler <strike>Schiavo</strike> - www.terrisfight.org)
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To: La Enchiladita

Terri is dead. Time to move on with life and not dwell and dishonor the dead.


32 posted on 04/06/2005 2:38:24 PM PDT by Windsong (FighterPilot)
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To: Dave S

Without a PET scan or an fMRI, your supposition that she had no consciousness is purely speculative. A CT scan can't show what was needed to be looked at.

Stay confused if you wish.


33 posted on 04/06/2005 2:39:46 PM PDT by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: BykrBayb
"The only troop bashing I've seen on the Terri threads came from those supporting Terri's murder."

What the hell does the military have to do with Terri?? Fer cryin out loud..put the crackpipe down already.

34 posted on 04/06/2005 2:40:26 PM PDT by Windsong (FighterPilot)
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To: Windsong

I wouldn't exactly call a memorial service dishonoring the dead.


35 posted on 04/06/2005 2:41:18 PM PDT by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: ClancyJ

Cry me a friggin river. Never seen so much whining in one post before.


36 posted on 04/06/2005 2:43:10 PM PDT by Windsong (FighterPilot)
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To: Windsong; ClancyJ
Never seen so much whining in one post before.

By all means, Windsong, people should learn from your example and keep their whining short, sweet, and to the point.
37 posted on 04/06/2005 2:48:41 PM PDT by green pastures
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To: Windsong; BykrBayb

For some reason there have been plenty of people on the side of killing Terri who have been bashing our troops. Go figure! The ones who should put down the crackpipe are the ones who bashed the military, and chose a Terri thread as the place to do it.


38 posted on 04/06/2005 2:53:59 PM PDT by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: Windsong

I was responding to the accusation that Terri's supporters don't support the military. If you really think bringing the subject up means somebody is smoking crack, direct your accusations accordingly. If that's what you really think. If this was just another opportunity to insult a Terri supporter, try again.


39 posted on 04/06/2005 2:55:02 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri Schindler <strike>Schiavo</strike> - www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Windsong

Oh, excuse me. Only can whine if you are in the WFPPF I guess.

Note-you are not required to read any posts you find distasteful. Many just go on to something of interest to them instead of bothering to R E S P O N D to a whining poster.


40 posted on 04/06/2005 3:02:06 PM PDT by ClancyJ (The Death Culture Movement - All of us are hosed no matter what we do)
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