Posted on 04/03/2005 8:13:11 PM PDT by tbn80
this site is whacked. The whole website claims to oppose somthing with one side of it's mouth and then goes around supporting basically the same thing. You all claim to oppose Islam but advocate the same things they do. You even worship the same god they do. You claim to support free speech and religious liberty but demand that the seperation of church and state that has protected religious freedom be torn down and anyone who says anything critical about Bush, Rush or any so called conservative thrown out. You claim to oppose media biased but are far more biased thgan they are. At least Peter Jennings and Dan Rather never villified anyones lifestyle or beliefs and deny the other side their viewpoint. You also claim to oppose socialism but support faith based initiatives of forcing taxpayers at gunpoint to give money to the church the same way the puritans did and demand corporate welfare for ceos. These are the same values that the USSR practiced. THey merged the religion of Atheism with government the same way you propose merging Christian foundamentalism. They were imperialist warmongers greedy for power just as you are in this Iraq war. In the end FR and other like minded scum will lead to the downfall of america and a new dark age.
Take that troll!
Your right..and who am I?? Just a noob
and u r a cretin fag...
Didn't last long, did ya? LOL
LOL!
arent they so "Openminded" "diverse" and "tolerant"
We are Not Commies, commie! All your ZOT belong to us!
"You also claim to oppose socialism..."
Yes...I do.
"...but support faith based initiatives of forcing taxpayers at gunpoint to give money to the church the same way the puritans did and demand corporate welfare for ceos."
Frankly, I don't care for government support of anything...except our national defence. That being said, if Liberals are going to insist that we allocate grants and monies to special interest groups to help the impoverished and indigent, than the Church should not be excluded.
Liberal groups receieve millions of dollars to supposedly help people; from the NRDC and environmentalism to homeless issues, were administrators live like labor bosses, liberals have sucked from the government teat for generations.
IF your objective as a liberal is to help people than you should have no problem with local churches doing what they do best and tending to the impoverished in their communities. Hell, until a decade ago this wasn't a problem as this was done routinely. That all changed when Clinton became president and homeless missions were denied grants to feed the poor because they prayed. Don't talk to me about hypocrisy you weasel.
"These are the same values that the USSR practiced. THey merged the religion of Atheism with government the same way you propose merging Christian foundamentalism."
Ahh...the USSR, as the Facists did, persecuted people of faith as they made room for the very secularism you are preaching. Know one here is asking for a merging of religion and government. You are so ignorant that you can't see that your argument supports our position as it is people of faith in this country, who are being marginalized as they were in the USSR.
Can I use this later?
Sure, help yourself. I have it saved (already formatted) on my profile page if you would like to 'borrow' any or all of it.
Regards.
Then I stand corrected. From now on it shall be spelled God.
"They think in terms of classes (Marxists) and don't give a flying fig about individuals."
Actually, class is the way of the world. There will always be rich & poor, always an professional vesus blue-collar group, etc. For sure, the rich should help the poor, by giving charity, but for some reason, in the liberal mind, the poor are "entitled" to wealth. Of course, anyone who is non-white, non-male, and ahem, "heterosexually challenged" wears a halo.
I think liberals are just people who are angry at truth. They keep trying, again and again, to fit a square peg into a round hole.
If I weren't so damned tired (still adjusting to Daylight Savings) I'd maybe argue more with this guy's ravings. As it is now, I'm in no mood for it.
Grammatically, you were correct. It would sound better the other way.
"this site is whacked."
I haven't experienced any faulty connections on this webisite :D
"The whole website claims to oppose somthing with one side of it's mouth and then goes around supporting basically the same thing."
There is this little thing at the bottom of every page that says that the posts are the product of the authors, and are not neccesarilly the opinions of the site's owners.
" You all claim to oppose Islam but advocate the same things they do."
You'll probably never get to answer this because you are in zotland, but whatever gave you that idea? Chances are that there are a few Muslims who even post on this site. Personally I am not opposed to Islam in general, I am opposed to Militant Islam.
"You even worship the same god they do."
Umm... God's nickname is not Allah. They are both supposed to be the God's of Abraham, but I don't see the same character in the God of Islam. (thats my opinion)
"You claim to support free speech and religious liberty but demand that the seperation of church and state that has protected religious freedom be torn down and anyone who says anything critical about Bush, Rush or any so called conservative thrown out."
Seperation of Church and State is not mentioned anywhere in any major American founding document. It is not, nor should it be a part of American politics. The only thing that the Constitution opposes is an established church. Which would be if one church were taxed where another church was not
"You claim to oppose media biased but are far more biased thgan they are."
Reality Check: There is no actual opposition to bias in any way at all, what is opposed is unfair bias.
"At least Peter Jennings and Dan Rather never villified anyones lifestyle or beliefs and deny the other side their viewpoint."
Is there a problem with believing in a right and a wrong?
"You also claim to oppose socialism but support faith based initiatives of forcing taxpayers at gunpoint to give money to the church the same way the puritans did and demand corporate welfare for ceos."
Socialism does not support the Church at all. Socialism typically opposes any church at all.
"These are the same values that the USSR practiced."
The USSR didn't give money to churches. They blew them up.
" THey merged the religion of Atheism with government the same way you propose merging Christian foundamentalism."
Who is they? Seriously, I don't propose any such merger, I just oppose the near-violent responses that are received when a moral topic is discussed with religious morality in mind.
"They were imperialist warmongers greedy for power just as you are in this Iraq war."
One problem with this argument, is that the Soviets kept what they conquered. Iraq and Afghanistan already have their own governments.
"In the end FR and other like minded scum will lead to the downfall of america and a new dark age."
I would love to see the logical steps you went through to reach this conclusion.
"I wasn't correcting grammar. Only spelling."
yeah writer33 has spelling issues himself. ;)
Libery = Liberty! LOL!
That's right. I have spelling issue. Major issues, buddy. :)
LMAO! Soryy man I couldn't resist the opening!
You KNOW you'd o the same thing if the situation was reversed.
No. I much more sensitive than you are...you...you...evil...conservative...pig...you. :)
HA! Just kidding! I'd probably do the same.
I DO NOT in fact worship Ba-al, the moon god.
And I would suggest that you STFU had you not already gotten treated like the pustulant troll that you are.
Anyone want to bet that as a small child this troll ate lots of paint chips containing lead.
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