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1 posted on 03/31/2005 4:12:56 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross
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To: Diva Betsy Ross

Add me to your ping list


2 posted on 03/31/2005 4:13:41 PM PST by Leatherneck_MT (3-7-77 (No that's not a Date))
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To: Diva Betsy Ross

Florida State Legislature better investigate as well.


3 posted on 03/31/2005 4:14:08 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: Diva Betsy Ross

I have contacted my Senators and Rep.

Encourage all others interested in protecting the lives of the disabled to do the same.


4 posted on 03/31/2005 4:14:16 PM PST by tomahawk (http://tomahawkblog.blogspot.com/)
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To: kingattax; livius; the invisib1e hand; longtermmemmory; 68 grunt

ping please add your thoughts


5 posted on 03/31/2005 4:15:17 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink stinks!)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross; Robert A. Cook, PE; xsmommy; Slip18; Gabz; Texan5; hobbes1

Ping me. Anyone the dems hate (and fear) is alright with me!


6 posted on 03/31/2005 4:16:54 PM PST by Dutchgirl ("I think the government should stay out of personal family business." O.J. Simpson)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross

I heard Michael wouldn`t even let the parents in the room when she passed away. What a nice man. He reminds me of that scene in Saving Private Ryan when the German slowly sticks the knife into the guys chest to savor the death.

http://www.local6.com/news/4334124/detail.html


7 posted on 03/31/2005 4:18:14 PM PST by Imaverygooddriver (ALL MY BASE ARE BELONG TO YOU)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross

Add me also, please.


8 posted on 03/31/2005 4:18:20 PM PST by srweaver (Forget the Alamo...Remember Terri Schiavo)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross

Please ping. Do you need an organizer?


9 posted on 03/31/2005 4:18:33 PM PST by combat_boots (Dug in and not budging an inch. NOT to be schiavoed, greered, or felosed as a patient)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross

To tick off the person(s) adding the keywords, to help that justice is done for Terri, to help do my part however small it is...please add me to your ping list.


10 posted on 03/31/2005 4:22:06 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (aitch tee tee pea colon 2 slashes dubya dubya dubya dot proud patriots dot org)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross; Howlin; Long Cut; BigSkyFreeper

Yes! I support reform on this!!!

It's amazing. On death penalty, we rightly complain about all the delays for justice. Here in this case, Mrs. Schiavo didn't receive her preference until after YEARS of lying in a bed, hooked up. How just is that?! Even though she wasn't aware of it, it's still not good to have to face the fact that our wishes might be ignored, or else delayed, once we are unable to fight for them. We MUST stop DeLay and the others who are in danger of stomping on the rights of those who can't speak out or fight back....support rights of the disabled, and of all of yourselves who might end up in this state someday!!! I'm all for reform.

Oh, and I also support sending a message to keep the feds out of local and state issues once its been determined due process has been met. Let conservatives speak out for our values of local control and personal rights!


11 posted on 03/31/2005 4:22:36 PM PST by Gondring (Pretend you don't know me...I'm in the WPPFF.)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross

I couldn't get the house email to work so I emailed Sensenbrenner. I hope some good can come out of this.


12 posted on 03/31/2005 4:23:24 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: Diva Betsy Ross
Congressman Tom DeLay said the House Judiciary Committee will be investigating Terri's case and making recommendations to the full house about any reforms that they believe are necessary in this debacle over Terri's life and death.

Here's a thought for you. Call it the Schiavo Amendment:

U.S. Constitution: Amendment XXVII

Section 1. Sections 1 and 2 of Article III of the Constitution for the United States of America are hereby repealed.

Section 2. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by conventions in the several States, as provided in the Constitution, within seven years from the date of the submission hereof to the States by the Congress.


14 posted on 03/31/2005 4:25:23 PM PST by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross

Please add me to your ping list.


16 posted on 03/31/2005 4:31:33 PM PST by GloriaJane ("How Many Babies Are Crying In Heaven Tonight" http://music.download.com/gloriajane)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross

if you form a ping list, please add me to it. We need to frequently post threads about the activities of the House Judiciary Committee.

Judicial reform is the thrust of the "March for Justice" and we have to be extrememly pro-active about this.

I suggest we email/call Rep DeLay and members of the committee expressing our support and clear intent to see ACTION on this.
We want NO excuses or good intentions. These activist judges are trying to kill America just as they killed Terri.

Let's all make an effort to involve as many FReepers as possible.


18 posted on 03/31/2005 4:35:02 PM PST by kingattax (If you're cross-eyed and dyslexic, can you read all right ?)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross; Dutchgirl
Here's a no-brainer:
Florida has laws against bigamy.
Florida recognizes "common law" marriages.
Michael Schiavo is obviously the "husband" in a common law marriage.
Michael Schiavo has been recognized by numerous courts to be the "husband" of Terri Schiavo.

So, when will the arrest be made?

19 posted on 03/31/2005 4:35:59 PM PST by TheGrimReaper (o)(o)....Keeping abreast for 50 years now.)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross

Count me in please!


20 posted on 03/31/2005 4:37:41 PM PST by adc ("Speak up for those who cannot speak for themselves, for the rights of all who are destitute. Speak)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross

Please add me to your ping list.


27 posted on 03/31/2005 4:53:28 PM PST by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defence of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross

Add me to your ping list.

I'm mad, and I'm not going to take it anymore. I used to be proud to be an American, but not any more. If we allow the murder of the disabled, then we are no better than any other country.

What part of "unalienable right to life" do the courts not understand?

Let's do something for Terri and for all future Terri's.


31 posted on 03/31/2005 4:59:36 PM PST by Reddy
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To: Diva Betsy Ross

I'm in Diva.

I'm sick and tired of the judges who make terrible decisions affecting all of our lives.

Judge Greer is #1 on the list.


The judge who is also in Florida who did not give the couple protection in the form of a restraining order that were killed is #2. (this is the one where the 5 year old daughter called 911 after finding her parents bleeding in their bedroom)

These judges names need to be known nationally not just locally and they MUST be held accountable for their actions. FR is the perfect place to do this IMHO.


32 posted on 03/31/2005 5:05:09 PM PST by WestCoastGal (Bristol~2 get a tkt to a race there is like trying to slip an out of spec car thru NASCAR inspection)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross

In all my years dealing with constitutional law, I have always said no to judicial impeachment even when from time to time on various issues some conservative activists have argued for it in specific situations. I can generally provide people more arguments against impeachment than for it where judges are concerned. Sometimes I cannot provide argurments for impeachment at all, because all the valid arguments from my point of view mitigated against judicial impeachment in those situations.

The Schiavo matter is dramatically different. Not only am I convinced that judicial impeachment applies here, I am convinced that it applies to every federal judge in the chain from the district court judge who first received the case under the act signed by President Bush, through the appeals judges of the 11th Circuit, to all nine sitting members of the U.S. Supreme Court, with the exception of the one or two judges that bucked the system.

This is the first time in my several decades of dealing with constitutional law that such a situation exists. I never imagined that I would see this situation in my entire lifetime or in my professional career.

The key points are summarized here. They are based on two one-hour radio talkshow interviews I did locally this week which laid out the matter in some detail.

First, Article III uses the words "good behavior" as the term of art dealing with the impeachment of federal judges. The Constitution uses the words "high crimes and misdemeanors" as the standard of impeachment for the executive and legislative branches. "High crimes and misdemeanors" is a higher and more rigid standard than "good behavior" in Article III. In the Schiavo matter, the misconduct on the part of the federal judiciary violates both standards. It violates the "high crimes and misdemeanors" standard because by refusing to protect the substantive right to life of Ms. Schiavo under the 14th Amendment, and treating the matter as strictly procedural, the various judges made themselves accessories to murder. It violates the "good behavior" standard for the sorts of reasons explained by William Blackstone in his Commentaries on the Laws of England.

The federal courts obstinately refused in the Schiavo matter to employ a jurisprudence of constitutionally protected inalienable rights mandated by the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution of the United States, the rights model of original American jurisprudence from the era of the Founders, and as extended to state misconduct by the 14th Amendment.

The federal courts refused to judicially notice that we prosecuted people for war crimes at Nuremberg for the very sorts of actions taken and required by the Florida state courts in clear violation of the original meaning of inalienable rights and due process of law.

Under our federal union, there has never been a power in any state to execute anyone not convicted of a crime and who has not been indicted and/or tried criminally. Under our federal union and under the constitutions and bills of rights of every individual state, the right to life is inalienable. At the state level, that right can only be lost by an individual person through an act of wrongdoing constituting a forfeiture and adjudicated as such through a criminal trial where due process would apply. Executing an innocent person through a civil process is ultra vires by definition and has been ultra vires for over two hundred years of American experience. Having occurred in the Schiavo matter, the question is not one of due process because there can be no such process, period. Where such occurs, as it has here, it is an act of state tyranny by definition, the ground upon which we fired the king of England.

When people say Ms. Schiavo received due process that is not true because the state is not permitted to have such a process, period. For any state to have a process that executes a person or citizen unconvicted of a crime is not a matter of due process because there can be no such process. The 14th Amendment mandates that the right to life be protected by the federal government if a state materially fails in its duty to secure the inalienable right to life. For any federal judge to fail in that 14th Amendment duty is "bad behavior" and criminal negligence. When the federal courts treated the matter pro forma as a procedural one rather than one of substantive rights, the courts materially breached their duty to a person who is also a citizen of the United States under the 14th Amendment with both personhood and citizenship rights. In light of the fact that the federal judges' malfeasance has materially redefined (by inaction) something as fundamental to all persons and American citizens as the right to life, and demonstrated by precedent that the federal courts criminally disregard their duty to uphold the right to life, they have failed to maintain the standard of good conduct required of a federal judge and forfeited the respect and obedience of the American people.

For these and related reasons, every federal judge involved in the execution of Terri Schiavo has violated their office as judge and have committed the high crime of being an accessory to murder. Therefore every judge so tainted MUST be impeached by Congress and removed from the bench.

Sincerely,
Gary Amos


35 posted on 03/31/2005 5:06:56 PM PST by tcg (TCG)
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