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Why I've Stopped Arguing With Liberals
Human Events ^ | March 28, 2005 | Pat Sajak

Posted on 03/28/2005 8:39:13 AM PST by srm913

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To: srm913

I didn't know Sajak was a conservative. He is really spot on --it's exactly how I feel about arguing with liberals. They always end up being the obnoxious bullies in a debate, comfortable making up contradictory rules because they see themselves as being on the side of "good intentions." Gotta remember that these are the people who are likely to put up a "Question Reality" sticker on their bumper. To the liberal, reality and human nature are not constant and easy to define. Instead they change from day to day, according to what best suits their purposes and desires.


41 posted on 03/28/2005 9:05:18 AM PST by Sally II
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To: Paulus Invictus

"Not only that, we are also smart enough to understand and reject the idiocies of the liberals."

True! I don't consider a person to be an intellectual because they have traveled and can speak foreign languages. I would consider someone who can follow logic and reasoning smart.

Speaking of which, is there a site that gives party affiation percentages by occupation? I'm curious to see if more math/engineering/computer science/physics majors are Republican vs. arts/humanities types? I would assume so based on engineers I've worked with (not a democrat in the bunch), but I have no "real numbers" evidence.


42 posted on 03/28/2005 9:05:55 AM PST by Serenissima Venezia (An engineer turning teacher (unless I come back to my senses!))
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To: srm913
The moral superiority they bring to the table allows them to alter the playing field and the rules in their favor.

Which is absurd, of course, since those with no morals have no moral authority or superiority.

43 posted on 03/28/2005 9:06:44 AM PST by Major Matt Mason (Juggling the Flaming Globes of Zigmund)
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To: srm913

I have lunch once a week with a bunch of liberals including two who call themselves conservatives. The hatred for GW Bush they have almost makes them foam at the mouth. And it never fails they never have any real source for their facts.


44 posted on 03/28/2005 9:06:51 AM PST by free_life
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To: srm913
The tendency to immediately jump into ignorant argument and/or commit informal fallacies certainly isn't monopolized by the left - I've had that same problem with conservatives.  

Here at FR it happens all the time.....hell, I've done it.

But, by-and-large, when I find it happening it's usually a lefty doing it.  Usually, the slide into absurdity occurs the minute you back the person into a corner of logic.  

The most interesting part is how childish they become:  one minute you're talking to a presumed adult and the next they're doing the equivalent of sticking their fingers in their ears and saying "I'MNOTLISTENINGICAN'THEARYOU".

I just won't allow myself to be drawn into discussions with leftists anymore.  It's not worth the time.

 

45 posted on 03/28/2005 9:06:53 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (“I know a great deal about the Middle East because I’ve been raising Arabian horses" Patrick Swazey)
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To: srm913

I CALL IT MY ENERGY CONSERVATION PLAN....................


46 posted on 03/28/2005 9:08:31 AM PST by lionheart 247365
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To: marty60

I hear some of this nonsense too. Actually, people in red states travel and read too, but is not indicative of how informed people are or in their ability in making choices. When a liberal asks a supposed rhetotical question, tell them "No" to their answer and give them an answer than smashes their paradigm. They will be calling you a nazi within minutes.


47 posted on 03/28/2005 9:10:37 AM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: srm913

Another gem from a DINFOS-trained killer (military journalist types will know what I'm talking about).


48 posted on 03/28/2005 9:11:19 AM PST by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
...They are strewn with Liberals trying to argue points. I walk in, drop some bombs...

Pull the pin, toss it in.

49 posted on 03/28/2005 9:12:47 AM PST by D Rider
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To: Psycho_Bunny

bump for a later read.


50 posted on 03/28/2005 9:13:31 AM PST by secret garden (Alleluia! He is Risen!)
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To: free_life

The reason for their fanatical hatred for George W. Bush is they hate Christians. Christianity threatens them with something they fear more than Hell itself...a mirror.


51 posted on 03/28/2005 9:16:50 AM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: Psycho_Bunny

I don't argue with anyone, liberal or conservative, any more. Heck, I won't even argue with my wife. In most cases the only way a person's mind is changed is through personal experience. I've got too much to do and life is too short. I will comment and give my opinion here on FR but I will not waste my time arguing.


52 posted on 03/28/2005 9:17:03 AM PST by Russ
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To: srm913

ping for a spin,..er um I mean a read


53 posted on 03/28/2005 9:17:22 AM PST by Dad yer funny
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To: nmh
. Some "conservatives" let their emotions rule rather than knowledge and common sense.

True, but not by much. Yes, you can find dogmatic conservatives, but they're in the minority, as opposed to dogmatic liberals. You have to dig really, really hard to find an intellectual liberal these days.

54 posted on 03/28/2005 9:19:58 AM PST by HolgerDansk ("Oh Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round.)
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To: srm913

bump


55 posted on 03/28/2005 9:20:19 AM PST by Slicksadick (Go out on a limb........Its where the fruit is.)
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To: srm913

Sajak's fatigue is precisely why Ann Coulter's approach is so wise. The Left is an endless source of amusement.


56 posted on 03/28/2005 9:21:23 AM PST by Taliesan (The power of the State to do good is the power of the State to do evil.)
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To: srm913

I've also stopped arguing with lefties. All you ever get with them is what I call "dogmatic jingles". They don't even know the whole song, but they've got that "hook line" locked into what passes for their consciousness.

Logic is pointless and irrelevant because words have no clear and predictable meanings, so I will no longer "cast pearls before swine", but leave them be worshipping at their pagan altar. I can neither save them nor destroy them, so I have to leave them be and let God take care of it in His own time.


57 posted on 03/28/2005 9:23:19 AM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: srm913
it’s time to talk about the weather.

Even the weather is Bush's fault!

58 posted on 03/28/2005 9:23:36 AM PST by GSWarrior
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To: srm913
Well, don’t you think that people who live in large urban areas, who travel and read and speak other languages are better able to make informed choices?

I doubt there are many Manhattenites who read more than I do, out here in the boonies, and as for travel, well, I'm not sure what a week in France or sunning in Monaco does for your brain cells.

59 posted on 03/28/2005 9:26:19 AM PST by Taliesan (The power of the State to do good is the power of the State to do evil.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

You know you've won when one by one your leftist relatives get up from the Easter table and go outside to have a cigarette.


60 posted on 03/28/2005 9:26:52 AM PST by olivia3boys
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