Why I've Stopped Arguing With Liberals

Human Events ^ | March 28, 2005 | Pat Sajak

[Old_Mil]

Liberals have no understanding whatsoever of logic or cause and effect, and as a result they are capable of spouting off the most contradictory ideas with the sincerity of the most ardent jihadist.

That's why it's useless talking to them.

[Morgan's Raider]

Arguing with a liberal is like teaching a pig to sing. It's a great waste of your time, and it annoys the hell out of the pig.

[srm913]

Then there's a freeper tagline I read (I can't remember whose it was):
Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, then beat you with experience.

[StoneGiant]

Pat,

There may not be much point in arguing with 'em.... you probably won't be successful in changing their closed minds.

But the entertainment value is extremely high!

[CGVet58]

... and that, good sir, is a most excellent observation; we don't "argue" with our invective-laced counterparts to sway them, but to allow the non-committed and nearby witness to see the extremisms from a member of the fascist left.

[hosepipe]

Pat;
Your a little late to the party...
Just fall a turnip truck or something..
Its always been that way.. always...

[Paulus Invictus]

“Well, don’t you think that people who live in large urban areas, who travel and read and speak other languages are better able to make informed choices?”

This is a supremely stupid allegation! The liberals might be truly surprised to learn that a very large percentage of folks in our state and several other Red States actually travel, learn to speak other languages and have excellent, advanced educations. Not only that, we are also smart enough to understand and reject the idiocies of the liberals. Based upon all of that, we make truly informed choices and do so at the ballot boxes. May it ever be so!

[CGVet58]

reminds me of an old Irish saying: "T'is better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool; then to speak up and remove all doubt".

[JoeV1]

Perhaps Mr. P.J. O'Rourke said it best.

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child - miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke

[DustyMoment]

I was having a discusion with a liberal friend about the Clintons and hsi rejoinder to me was "Well, yeah, but I don't believe that they are evil deep down inside."

That pretty much ended the discusion. How do you argue with that type of "logic"?

[RexBeach]

Hey, if the liberals know so damned much, how come they keep losing elections?

[Legal Murder]

This may be my ignorance, but at one time i thought liberals were good. I thought they were the ones who saved lives......etc. OBVIOUSLY THIS IS NOT TRUE. This open mindedness has gone too far. I was all for this open mindedness until now. People think that it's so important to enforce the right to die....and their rights that they choose to kill a handicapped person. THAT IS WRONG. Once again this may be my lack of education....but at least i'm seeing liberals for what they are or have become now. And there i am sure some liberals out there against this. So please no one get offended by what i say......basically......I think you are crap if you think this is right! All of you that don't, god bless you and if you aren't christian......may good come to you! This is not a "crazy christian" battle.........this is about humane people. Of course a lot of christians agree with this, but a lot don't at the same time. It's just sorting out the good from the bad in the world........and i have dropped frineds over this issue, maybe that's too much........but I don't see a person wit h a good heart saying this is right! Now for those that haven't watched enough on it.....i can see the idiocy. But those who have followed a lot of it......you better believe if you let this hitler do this and ok with it, you have no morals.

[sydbas]

I find that when liberals no they have lost the debate they resort to one word: Halliburton. At that point I just laugh.

[riri]

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[EQAndyBuzz]

"You know you`ve won the debate when the socialist/neo-marxist left descend to name calling within the context of a debate with you,you know you`ve just won.Hands down,the debates over."

What I do is go to www.craigslist.com and go to the New York or SF political sites. They are strewn with Liberals trying to argue points. I walk in, drop some bombs, end it with :

DNC Talking Point - Bush = Hitler
RNC Talking Point - Let the DNC Talk

I never knew there were so many curses in the English Language. The libs must have a dictionary full of them.

It is hysterical.

[JoJo Gunn]

“Well, don’t you think that people who live in large urban areas, who travel and read and speak other languages are better able to make informed choices?”

---

"Norway rats have been bred in scientific laboratories since the middle
nineteenth century. Artificial selection has elicited-partly
through unconscious choices by laboratory personnel-a strain of rats
that is calmer, tamer, less aggressive, more fertile, and with significantly
smaller brains than their wild ancestors. All this is a convenience
for those experimenting on rats.

In a now-classic experiment, the psychologist John B. Calhoun let
Norway rats reproduce in an enclosure of fixed size until the number
of occupants, and therefore the population density, was very high. He
made sure, however, to provide everyone with enough to eat. What
happened?

As the population increased, a range of unusual behavior was
noted. Nursing mothers became somehow distracted, rejecting and
abandoning their infants, who would wither away and die. Despite the
surplus of ordinary food, the bodies of the newborn would be greedily
eaten by passersby. An adult female in heat or estrus would be pursued
relentlessly, not by one, but by a pack of males. She had no hope
of escape, or even sanctuary. Obstetrical and gynecological disorders
proliferated, and many females died giving birth, or from complications
soon after. When crowded together, the rats lost their inclination
or ability to build nests for themselves and their young; their desultory
constructions were amateurish and ineffective.

Among the males Calhoun distinguished four types: the dominant,
highly aggressive ones who, although "the most normal," would occasionally
go "berserk"; the homosexuals who made sexual advances
to adults and juveniles of both sexes (but, significantly, only to non ovulating
females): their invitations were generally accepted, or at
least tolerated, but they were frequently attacked by the dominant
males; a wholly passive population that "moved through the community
like somnambulists" with nearly complete social disorientation;
and a subgroup Calhoun calls the "probers," uninvolved in the struggle
for status but hyperactive, hypersexual, bisexual, and cannibalistic.

(from Carl Sagan and Ann Druyan-Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors 1992 pages 184-185)
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Animal study: Calhoun and the behavioral sink …. In his study rats were placed in a "perfect" environment, had adequate resources and were allowed to reproduce freely. The cage was designed so that 2 of the 4 rooms had only one entrance/exit, while the other 2 rooms had 2 entrances/exits. What happened was that in the 2 rooms with limited entrance/exit, a dominant male was able to maintain reasonable order, with limited crowding, normal feeding, socialization, and breeding. In the two rooms with multiple entrances/exits, no single male was able to maintain a normal dominance hierarchy, high density occurred, social order broke down, 4 classes of males developed (including marginally normal dominants, pansexuals, passive neutrals, and probers who were "hyperactive, hypersexual, homosexual/cannibals") and two classes of females (one abnormal in almost all manner, and the other marginally normal) occurred. Total chaos occurred in rooms 2 and 3. ….Would humans, if faced with such density levels act the same way?

[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

"Justice" Harry Blackmun and six others WERE worse than Hitler, as are the current supporters of abortion.

[VRWCisme]

My friend asked, “Well, don’t you think that people who live in large urban areas, who travel and read and speak other languages are better able to make informed choices?”

If your friend thinks that people in urban areas are better read and more educated than those in the entirety of the red states, then she/he is even more delusional than you may have realized previously!

[trubluolyguy]

Pat, trying to speak logic to liberals is like trying to teach a pig to fly, a waste of time for all involved and very annoying to the pig.

[Gorzaloon]

I gave up "arguing" with liberals a long time ago. No sense in it.

If you want to try something even better, guaranteeing a much more pleasant life, try giving up associating with them. This includes relatives.