Posted on 03/28/2005 8:39:13 AM PST by srm913
Name calling....or that ultimate put-down - "You just don't get it."
One of their favorite sly tricks is to pick out the most dumb, outrageous, conspiratorial, vulgar, etc. comments found on so many threads and then point them out as indicative of the radicalism of this forum and freepers in general.
Or they parse an errant word or two, or a few unsourced sentences to death. They ignore broader truth and facts until one's eyes glaze over. You realize they don't want to debate the issue (which they will lose), just counterattack on form over substance.
These are leftist spin tactics right out of books like Sol Alinsky's "Rules for Revolution" (Hillary's bible).
I still forward FR threads to these folks because their replies are so predictable they tickle my funny bone.
Leni
Isn't that the pot calling the kettle black?
"My friend asked, “Well, don’t you think that people who live in large urban areas, who travel and read and speak other languages are better able to make informed choices?” It turns out it is superiority, not familiarity, which breeds contempt."
Indeed. Where the heck do they get this idea that the only people who travel, read, and speak other languages are people that live in an urban area in a blue state?
I travel constantly, speak other languages besides English, and I live in a town of about 4,000 people in a red state.
These people are sanctimonious idiots.
:"I've been shocked at what I see people willingly believing when it suits their agenda."
Exactly. I see it too here on FR. When you point out the logical fallicies, they too degenerate into irrational namecalling. Quite amusing, really.
I find myself doing the same thing now. They're not worth the trouble.
These city folk are dillusional about WHY "they" vote liberal/democrat. Its not because they are smarter, more cosmopolitan, etc. Its because they have a large number of urban types (blacks, whites, hispanics), idiots pretty much most of them, who vote overwhelmingly for Democrats.
Funny, I find that people that think and live like me are better able to make informed choices, too. Gee, what are the odds?!
An excellent rule. You probably won't convert your opponent in the debate, but you might convert the bystanders who hear the exchange.
Tagline:
It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into. ~Jonathan Swift. brewcrew, 03/08/03
As far as making up the rules as you go along..."(Of course, they -- being the good guys -- will decide exactly what that is.)"
My tagline says it all.
Very hard to argue with the "Kool-Aid" drinkers....because they are true believer's. But there's ton's of Sheeple that are just zoning on the MSM lies...and repeat it as truth. Those people I try and correct......
It's not always easy....but now and again, you get one of them to think.
FRegards,
Wow, that's very interesting (and explains a lot)!
I fear we'll have to let the liberals of our time die out of old age. The younger generation seems much more intelligent, then their parents at the same age ideologically.
I'm in California (Silicon Valley), and I can tell you that we have some brilliant engineers here who can easily grasp the scope of large problems and methodically solve them. Their reasoning ability is excellent.
Yet...when it comes to politics, they are liberal and are just blind to reality. I just can't get it. Some of it does come from anti-Christianity. One of them can't stand the fact that Bush ever mentions religion in his speeches. He thinks that Bush is an idiot and says that he makes him sick to his stomach whenever he speaks (especially in the debates). He thought that Bush was spinning the facts on Pell grants and budget issues.
Another can't get over the poverty that the Palestinians are in. He's been to Israel and can't believe the restrictions put on the Palestinians, or the poverty they are forced to live in. He just can't see that they've created the mess by themselves.
Finally, another good engineer voted for the California extra tax on millionaires. "Why not, none of us have to pay it".
Their ability to analyze data does not seem to extend to reality, even though I consider them smart and effective in their work.
I have a liberal brother too but he's the one that doesn't talk to me, not the other way around. Still, there is an amusement factor. My brother-in-law has a sister in Washington DC that's a union lawyer. After the 2004 elections she told them she wouldn't be sending Christmas gifts this year because Bush was so horrible and killing off people, etc. so she was going to donate the money she would have used for Christmas gifts in *their* name to her pet liberal causes. I suggested that my brother-in-law should buy her some shares of Halliburton for Christmas.
When confronted by a avid liberal wanting to argue, I always remember my father telling me; "son, why punch a skunk when he already stinks?"
You can't have a constructive conversation with a deconstructioninst.
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