TERRI SCHIAVO DAILY MARCH 2005 PART 4, DAY 5 OF HER DEHYDRATION -- PLEASE HANG ON WITH US

Various | 3-23-05

[STARWISE]

Tonight it is, March 22, 2005, over five days since Theresa Marie Schiavo commenced her ordeal of purposeful and legally sanctioned dehydration and starvation. We await a decision from the three judge panel from Eleventh Judicial Circuit as to her fate, as her family struggles with seeing Terri's physical health deteriorate.

[LegalEagle61]

But now that I'm re-looking at what NCLaw posted..............the dates are from yesterday, the 21st...........so, IT MUST PERTAIN TO MOODY'S ruling ONLY;

otherwise it should have TODAY'S date!!!!!



I said that about 100 times already, but no seemed to catch on...Moody ruled on the 18th

[Zivasmate]

So either way presents a winning argument in her favor. If she feels no pain, she's not suffering, so no need to take her out of her "misery." If she does feel pain, then she has some sensory perception, which is of course a sign of brain function. Then her state of life is not purely vegetative.

[churchillbuff]

Gibbs framed the complaint, already written probably sometime ago before the new de novo law, in the nature of an appeal,

I haven't read the ruling or his complaint. Did he name a defendant - and if so, who? I'm inferring from your comment that he named Greer, (as an appellee, as it were?)

[valleygal]

Well, where two or more agree...:)

[Txsleuth]

Isn't it convenient also, that the judge that just regurgitated Greer's rulings has life time tenure-=--

so he doesn't have to be concientious or even right, because he won't get FIRED---

THAT is why it is so very important that any GOOD judges that Bush sends in for nomination, get an up or down vote---
These judges with lifetime tenure really BELIEVE they are God, because unlike the President even, they won't lose their jobs---

If the appellate judges do the same thing, and just use OLD evidence, not start fresh like they are supposed to, then Terrr will surely die, and I think we all should be very afraid of where our country is headed---

If I were the Dem Senators, I would want this NOT to go against Terri, because if it does, and these Federal judges do not follow the Congress' instructions for a "de novo" hearing---

Senator Frist and the Reps will have plenty of ammunition to use when they fight the dems over Bush's judicial nominees!!!

[Freepertwo]

I love ya, Supercat, but murder is murder. I think part of the problem is that we've been told so often that a child in the womb isn't human even *we're* beginning to believe it. If it's not human...what is it?

But perhaps we can hash it around another time on another thread?

[Cboldt]

IOW there is no way that the judge could reach a decision in this matter than to try the case.

I think you meant there is no way he could follow the law that gave him the case (the Palm Sunday Law) than to try the case.

I haven't read the pleading before the Court, but assuming Torie has (& I think he has), I agree with the contention that Gibbs blew it. Read FN 3 in Whittemore's opinion.

[reaganaut]

I read somewhere online, here on freep IIRC(relating to Terri's 'death procedures'), that morphine is given in case the starved person survives to the point of going into gran mal siezures, then they won't fight the siezure.

Can anyone confirm this?

[nicmarlo]

we're all very tired, LegalEagle....very tired.

[valleygal]

I'm glad you ate something.

(Don't do that again!) :)

[Ohioan from Florida]

Congratulations! You have earned a badge of honor for Freep sleuthing among the best!

I'm not sure if Jerger-Centonze was bought out by Philadelphia Consolidated, because of the dates. To me it looks like Jerger sold all his current subsidiaries in 1999. Jerger-Centonze was established in 2001, according to the documents.

However, the two are related, as Richard Jerger is the principal who sold his company off to PC.

[Torie]

No, I have to assume he got the parties right. It was just the substance of the complaint that was well, in my opinion based on what I know, legal malpractice.

[Graymatter]

Tomorrow will come. I just had a deep feeling of peace overtake my spirit. Something has been settled, perhaps. Good night, cajungirl! New world in the morning---so they say!

[Freepertwo]

Sounds right to me!

[atruelady]

Oh, I get it... I think you are right about it being the appeal from Moody's court.

[valleygal]

Terri last 6 1/2 days before it was reinserted lst time (before Jeb saved her).

[nmh]

"DON'T BUY ANY FLORIDA CITRUS PRODUCTS"

What do they have to do with Terri?

It's the corrupt legal system and bad lawyering on Terri's behalf that got Terri IN THIS SITUATION.

[TSH1]

Wow, I want to answer that one. First of all your scenario states that the chemo MAY save her if issued immediately, that leaves the possibility that it may not save her. If the prognosis was that she would not live more than six months without chemo then chemotherapy would most likely only postpone the inevitable. Under those circumstances I would much rather continue the pregnancy in hopes that my child would live; but if unable, then I would want my unborn child to die within my womb, rather than ripped out and dismembered and we be buried together unseparated.

[STARWISE]

Welcome back, OFF -- had to start a new thread -- we were way over 5,000 -- I wasn't sure how to post it, and it got frozen and then thawed with help from our wonderful Mods. Any word from fv?

[nicmarlo]

night!