Citizen's arrest attempt of Schiavo, judge (Green Beret Bo Gritz intervenes for Terri)

2005 WorldNetDaily.com ^ | March 17, 2005 | 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

[ViLaLuz]

Former Green Beret Commander Bo Gritz is trying to conduct a citizen's arrest of the Terri Schindler Schiavo's husband and the judge presiding in the case before the handicapped Florida woman is scheduled to have her feeding tube removed so she can be legally starved to death.

The 66-year-old retired Army Lt. Colonel with his wife, Judy, arrived in Florida from their home in Nevada yesterday with the intent of arresting anyone involved in removing the woman's feeding tube that keeps her alive.

He came bearing a notarized "citizen's arrest warrant" addressed to Florida Gov. Jeb Bush Attorney General Charlie Crist. He said his intent is to "papering" state and federal law enforcement offices with his warrant today – a day before Circuit Court Judge George Greer has ordered the denial of food and water to Terri Schiavo.

Gritz says the "arrest" is designed to allow officials additional options as the Florida governor and legislature maneuver to save the woman from starvation.

Gritz says he successfully used the arrest-tool against federal law enforcement in August 1992 when he intervened in the siege at Ruby Ridge, Idaho, and brought what was left of Randy Weaver's family down the hill without further bloodshed. Sammy, the 14-year-old Weaver boy, was killed along with his mother, Vicki, and U.S. Marshal William Degan. Randy Weaver and another man, Kevin Harris, were wounded by police gunfire.

Gritz secured the services of renowned defense lawyer Gerry Spence, and the U.S. Department of Justice paid the Weavers $3.2 million in an out-of-court settlement. Harris was awarded more than $300,000.

Citing his officer's oath of allegiance to "defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic," Gritz says while he doesn't know Terri Schiavo personally, she nevertheless represents an American in danger of citizen-rights abuse, and he feels an obligation to act while she remains alive.

Besides a "Terri-Bill" under consideration in the U.S. Congress, the Florida Legislature votes tomorrow on a modified measure to keep Terri's life-support in place. A previous Florida bill was ruled unconstitutional barring further intervention by Gov. Bush.

While threatened with arrest at Ruby Ridge, the decorated war hero instead walked away with FBI letters of appreciation.

[malakhi]

I was commenting upon the source of the data in the post,the ADL. So that is why I made the comment I did.

You commented upon the source of the data IN ORDER TO attempt to bring the accuracy of the data into question. Remember you said, ""If I am critical of the source, I am critical of the data"?

Since I've asked you four times, and you've consistently declined to address the matter, I have to assume that you are unable to refute anything posted in #30, and were hoping that your attempt to impugn the the data by attacking the source would pass by without comment.

Well if you were as logical as you like to believe you are you would go back and read the posts and see where the question is.

I looked back, and you have asked me two questions, one of which was simply a reiteration of the first. I answered it in #73. If you have another question in mind, feel free to ask me.

[Antoninus]

Bo Gritz is nothing but an attention hog.

Somebody's got to step up to the plate here. It's laughable that nobodys who post anonymously on internet fora are so quick to criticize an actual MAN who is willing to take action. If we had 1,000 more "attention hogs" like Bo Gritz, we'd be a society in much better shape.

[malakhi]

It sure as hell raisses some red flags. The ADL is one of the most whiny liberal organizations out there.

Are there any points in #30 that you believe to be untrue?

[Modernman]

The ADL is not one of those so I am critical of what you have posted. That is the data you provided and I don't trust it.

What, specifically, is wrong about the information he posted?

[texson66]

Bo Gritz is nothing but an attention hog.. He is a whacko that will get someone killed..

I believe the FBI has already done that at Ruby Ridge and Waco!

[Modernman]

The point is the feeding tube removal, not the life history of Bo Gritz. Bo's past and who the ADL thinks are his supporters is a subject for another thread.

I haven't made my mind up about the Teri issue. However, if Bo Gritz has a questionable past and associations, I would imagine that Teri supporters would be hesitant to let him get involved on their side. Shouldn't you be concerned that once the media digs up negative information about him, it will make the rest of you look bad?

[malakhi]

Somebody's got to step up to the plate here.

Sure, and Bo Gritz is just the guy NOT to do it. Heck, why not see if you can get David Duke and Matthew Hale involved? I'm sure that would be beneficial. </sarcasm>

[shellshocked]

"He is a whacko that will get someone killed.."


Um, letssee, he is in FLA to help a situation whereby a woman is to be killed unless someone does seomthing. Hmmm, attention hog, perhaps, his name has been in the papers before, but, "get someone killed", I don't think so. He isn't the one doing the killing.

[jmc813]

Nominally, yes.

What is that supposed to mean? I'm just curious as to whether you think removing Terri's feeding tube is murder or if it would be justified. I like to know where people stand on an issue when discussing it with them.

[Diva Betsy Ross]

Ummm, as it was posted here, it comes from an untrustworthy source.

[Diva Betsy Ross]

As I said ,if you answer my question I will answer yours. When you are ready to do so let me know.

[malakhi]

Ummm, as it was posted here, it comes from an untrustworthy source.

As also was posted here, your belief that the source is untrustworthy does not in any way falsify or refute the statements made.

[Blessed]

My dad allways said don't bring spitballs to a knife fight.Better go get some help or more weapons.

[Long Cut]

I'm discussing the involvement in this case of Bo Gritz.

As for the other part, I really have no wish to go off on a tangent, OR to be attacked as some kind of demon because you don't agree with where I come down.

Thus, I'll stay on the topic at hand, okay?

[Delphinium]

The involvement of white supremacist/neo-Nazis in ANY cause tends to taint it.

It really does, and if the press gets the slightest reason they blow it completely out of proportion.

Remember when Larry Pratt was labeled because he had spoke at a rally with a very few of these types?

[malakhi]

As I said ,if you answer my question I will answer yours. When you are ready to do so let me know.

As I said, I am happy to answer your question. Ask it.

As I also said, I reviewed your posts to me, and as far as I can see I answered the two questions (really the same question) you asked of me.

So if you really want a question answered, and I somehow missed it, please ask me again so that I may reply.

[Long Cut]

Yep. When a bunch of shaved-head buggers with swastika tattoos shows up, the populace begins to take a dim view.

[texasbluebell]

"It would be nice to know what this woman wants."


Take a look at the following, and you might figure it out.

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Terri Schiavo wants to live

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35083

Terri Schindler-Schiavo does not want to die. She would like to go home. And she tried to convey this to her father in no uncertain terms by sitting bolt upright and trying to get out of her chair when told she might be killed, her family has revealed.

The stunning news was released yesterday afternoon by Terri's father, Robert Schindler, at the 'round-the-clock vigil outside the Woodside Hospice facility in Pinellas Park, Fla., where his daughter's court-ordered death by starvation is scheduled to begin today at 2 p.m. Eastern. At that time, her husband and legal guardian Michael Schiavo is scheduled to give the order to disconnect the 39-year-old brain-disabled woman's feeding tube that has provided her with sustenance for the past 13 years.

In an interview a few hours earlier, Schindler described the incident to WorldNetDaily. He said he was holding a cell phone to Terri's ear as she listened intently to the speaker, propped in her jerry-chair at about a 30-degree angle. Suddenly she sat up straight and tried to get out of her chair, despite her weak legs and muscles that were slack from lack of exercise.

His daughter's response stunned Schindler, who grabbed the phone and asked, "My God, what did you tell her?"

The speaker said he had warned, "If you don't get up and get out of there, you're going to die there."

more at link
(article is from 2003, the last time they tried to kill her)

[Delphinium]

f we had 1,000 more "attention hogs" like Bo Gritz, we'd be a society in much better shape.

I agree that we need many more who are willing to go All out for a cause, and are willing to bring lots of attention to it. I believe Bo only wants attention for himself.

I just personally don't believe Bo is good for causes.

I do hope, and pray that what he is doing now has a good affect, but I have seen his involvement have such a bad affect on very important causes.

[Modernman]

Ummm, as it was posted here, it comes from an untrustworthy source.

As has been pointed out, that is a logical fallacy. Even if the source is not wholly trustworthy, you still need to show why the particular information is false.

Knowing that a particular source has a bias or is untrustworthy might serve to make you suspicious, but it does not, in of itself, invalidate the information provided by that source.