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Here's his FULL floor statement.
1 posted on 03/02/2005 5:16:19 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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2 posted on 03/02/2005 5:16:48 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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"THE CONSTITUTIONAL OPTION TO CHANGE SENATE RULES AND PROCEDURES:A MAJORITARIAN MEANS TO OVERCOME THE FILIBUSTER",

(hat tip to Pajama Hadin)

3 posted on 03/02/2005 5:20:51 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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I wonder if he still has his KKK "Wizard" hat and outfit?
Ya think he still tries it on...just for fun, somtimes?

Betcha he does.

4 posted on 03/02/2005 5:22:46 AM PST by starfish923
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Hmmmmmmm.

Propaganda fully blown, defending the abuse of the original concept of filibuster by a KKK grand wizard, obviously very familiar with the value of rhetoric, of propaganda, and the usefulness of hiding himself under the cloak of legality.

5 posted on 03/02/2005 5:24:26 AM PST by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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Who is muzzling debate? I thought the whole issue was getting judicial nominations out on to the floor for an Up or Down vote -- which, I assume, would be preceeded by some debate.


8 posted on 03/02/2005 5:27:13 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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Note that nowhere in the Constitution is a vote on appointments mandated.

Advise and consent do seem to be in the Consititution, but try as I might, I can't find any penumbras and emmanations.

9 posted on 03/02/2005 5:28:12 AM PST by Bahbah
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Unfortunately, the Senator did not see that movie, as he had to attend a cross burning on the "poor side of town".


10 posted on 03/02/2005 5:30:22 AM PST by theDentist (The Dems are putting all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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His statement is for the BIRDS .


11 posted on 03/02/2005 5:30:52 AM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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Senator Byrd is playing a little game with himself. He wants to see how much is lies and demagoguery can accomplish. He's getting on and years and wants to see if he still's got his old stuff.


12 posted on 03/02/2005 5:32:05 AM PST by dennisw (Seeing as how this is a .44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world .........)
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I wonder if Senator Byrd ever offered his lynchees the option to filibuster before he voted to hang them.


13 posted on 03/02/2005 5:32:43 AM PST by Family_Before_Party
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The Framers (and Jimmy Stewart, too...... a true patriot) would be aghast at the Senate of today, thanks to sly boots like yourself, Senator Byrd.

"Majority rules" has worked for two centuries for presidential appointments. Fillibusters were never intended to maliciously torpedo judicial appointments one after another.

Hope the senate Republicans have the guts to stand up to this old goat and his herd. I'm not too optomistic.

Leni

14 posted on 03/02/2005 5:33:03 AM PST by MinuteGal
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Doesn't this idiot have a cross burning to attend?


16 posted on 03/02/2005 5:33:52 AM PST by reagan_fanatic ("Darwinism is a belief in the meaninglessness of existence" - R. Kirk)
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And many times the filibuster was used to block civil rights legislation. A former KKK member is the last person the Democrats should put forward arguing about the wonders of the filibuster.


17 posted on 03/02/2005 5:34:31 AM PST by Numbers Guy
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This drivel gives a whole new meaning to the word hyperbole.


18 posted on 03/02/2005 5:34:39 AM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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How odd that Senator Byrd fails to mention that in 1975 he voted (as part of a simple majority) to change the filibuster requirement from 67 votes to 60.


19 posted on 03/02/2005 5:35:46 AM PST by BlackRazor
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If you drive through West VA, you can't help but note that everything that's worth anything is named after the Honorable (KKK) Robert Byrd. DO YOU THINK IF WE RENAMED THE WHOLE STATE AFTER HIM HE WOULD JUST GO AWAY????
It is long-past time for him to just "fade away". He is such a horse's "pa-two-tee"!!!


20 posted on 03/02/2005 5:36:21 AM PST by Virginia Queen (Virginia Queen)
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Rumor has it that there is a plot afoot in the Senate to curtail the right of extended debate in this hallowed chamber,...

Mr. Byrd seems to have forgotten that at the end of that debate there should be a vote. Debate is not an end unto itself, it serves a purpose. That purpose is to delineate the pros and cons so each Senator can make up his mind as to how to vote. To use endless debate to prevent a vote is stifling the will of the people, but then I suppose that is the true end as seen by Mr. Byrd. His self-righteous indignation is ludicrous and so transparent as to be laughable. He is an old man who has lost sight of his duty, a sad sight.

23 posted on 03/02/2005 5:41:20 AM PST by ladtx ( "Remember your regiment and follow your officers." Captain Charles May, 2d Dragoons, 9 May 1846)
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The Filibuster

by Ronald D. Rotunda


Ronald Rotunda, author, and law professor at George Mason University, is a senior fellow with the Cato Institute.


The filibuster has a long history, but its pedigree should not make us proud. It prevented civil rights legislation from being adopted for nearly a century. Now a minority of senators is using it to prevent the Senate from voting on judicial nominees even though a majority of the senators from both parties would vote to confirm if they only could vote.


The modern filibuster is much more powerful than its historical predecessor because it is invisible: The Senate rules do not require any senator to actually hold the floor to filibuster. Instead, a minority of 41 senators simply notifies the Senate leadership of its intent to filibuster. Other Senate business goes on, but a vote on a particular issue -- a nomination -- cannot be brought to a vote. The present Senate rules that create the filibuster also do not allow the Senate to change the filibuster rules unless 67 senators agree. However, these rules should not bind the present Senate any more than a statute that says that it cannot be repealed until 67 percent of the Senate votes to repeal the statute. An earlier Senate cannot bind a present Senate on this issue.


The Senate, unlike the House, is often called a continuing body because only one-third of its members are elected every two years. But that does not give the senators of a prior generation (some of whom were defeated in prior elections) the right to prevent the present Senate from choosing, by simple majority, the rules governing its procedure. For purposes of deciding which rules to follow, the Senate starts anew every two years.


It is easy to make this point by looking at simple logic and history.


If a prior Senate can bind a later Senate, that would mean that the prior Senate could, by mere rule, impose what amounts to an important amendment to the Constitution regarding the number of votes needed to confirm a nominee. The Senate cannot change the number of votes needed to confirm a nominee any more than it can properly change the number of votes necessary for consenting to the ratification of a treaty from two-thirds to 75 percent or 51 percent.


Recall that Senator James Jeffords became an independent after the 2000 election. That shifted control of the Senate from Republicans to Democrats. The new Senate then reorganized itself, changed committee staff, and so on. However, if a prior Senate can really bind the present Senate, then an earlier Senate could have passed a rule that prevents reorganizing the Senate. We all know that such an effort would be as outrageous as the Federalist Party (which lost in the election of 1800) continuing to control the Senate and decide committee ratios, staff allocations, etc., as long as 34 percent of the Senate remained Federalist.


One might respond: But that would mean that the Senate could not vote on anything while there was a filibuster going on. Ah, but as mentioned above, the Senate rules do not require any senator to actually take the floor to speak: Senators simply notify the Senate leadership of the plan to filibuster on a particular bill or nomination and that kills it dead in its tracks. Or, think of it this way: What if the prior Senate (before the most recent election that shifted control to the Republicans) used its rule-making power to provide that judicial appointments require 75 percent or even unanimous consent, and that the Senate could not change that rule except by a two-thirds majority? Surely, no one would argue that the prior Senate could prevent the present Senate from changing that rule. Filibusters cannot be used to prevent changes in the rules that govern filibusters.


The present Senate rules are no more sacrosanct than a statute. If the president signs a law, it remains in effect until the House and Senate repeal it and the president signs the repealing legislation. The prior law cannot provide that it remains law unless 67 percent of the senators approve the repeal. Similarly, a Senate rule remains in effect only until a majority of the Senate changes that rule. The prior rule cannot provide that it remains law unless 67 percent of the senators approve the repeal, but that is what the Senate rules now provide.


Precedent also supports this principle. In 1975 the Senators changed the filibuster requirement from 67 votes to 60, after concluding that it only takes a simple majority of Senators to change the rules governing their proceedings. As Senate Majority Leader Mike Mansfield (D-MT) said at the time: "We cannot allow a minority" of the senators "to grab the Senate by the throat and hold it there." Senators Leahy, Kennedy, Byrd, and Biden, all agreed. Nearly a decade ago, Lloyd Cutler, the former White House Counsel to Presidents Carter and Clinton, concluded that the Senate Rule requiring a super-majority vote to change the rule is "plainly unconstitutional."


That was then. Now, a minority of senators once again claims that the Senate cannot change it rules to prevent this filibuster unless a super-majority agree. That is wrong. To paraphrase Senator Henry Cabot Lodge, to vote without debate is unwise, but to debate without even being able to vote is ridiculous.


30 posted on 03/02/2005 5:57:37 AM PST by conservativecorner
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The Senate never meant to be popularly elected.


31 posted on 03/02/2005 6:03:31 AM PST by Raycpa
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Robert KKK Byrd, proof that a horses a$$ can indeed talk more here
32 posted on 03/02/2005 6:03:52 AM PST by traderrob6 (http://www.exposingtheleft.blogspot.com)
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