Posted on 02/26/2005 1:27:31 PM PST by srm913
Republican disowns lesbian daughter
Gary Younge Saturday February 26, 2005
Guardian When the leading Republican and rightwing pundit Alan Keyes was asked what he thought of Mary Cheney, the lesbian daughter of the US vice-president, he called her "a selfish hedonist". If his own daughter came out as a lesbian, said Mr Keyes, he would say the same thing.
So when Mr Keyes' only daughter, Maya Marcel-Keyes, declared herself a "liberal queer" at a public rally he lived up to his word. Her parents turned her out of their house, broke off all communication and stopped paying her university tuition fees.
Ms Keyes told a rally supporting gay young people in Maryland: "We have to figure out what we can do to make sure that during those times when it seems like everything in the world is turning against them, like everyone in the world is rejecting them, that they know there are resources out there they can turn to; there are people out there who will say to them, 'I care'."
Ms Keyes joins a list of gay people with rightwing relatives, including Mary Cheney and Candace Gingrich, the sister of Republican congressman Newt Gingrich. But Mr Keyes, a darling of the religious right, has been more outspoken on the issue than most.
Ms Keyes says her parents were "not too pleased" when she came out. "Things just came to a head. Liberal queer plus conservative Republican just doesn't mesh well."
Her older brother has offered her somewhere to stay and she has been given a scholarship to continue at college.
"My daughter is an adult, and she is responsible for her own actions. What she chooses to do has nothing to do with my work or political activities," Mr Keyes said in a statement.
Ms Keyes says she loves her parents and "totally understands" their position.
Good questions.
I believe that God can forgive just about anything, unfortuntately man cannot.
It really does seem petty on the part of Alan Keyes.
One of the down sides of covering news for decades is one gets to see all the horror that exists in the world.
One factor no one considers in homosexual behaviour is that in every homosexual couple one partner plays the normal sexual role. In every lesbian relationship there is the female that plays the male role. There is also the female that plays the female roll.
In my news career I must have interiewed dozens of lesbians. I became convinced that the ones that played the female roles were normal though damaged females. I never found a case in a lesbian relationship where the one that played the female roll had not been abused by a male. Some had been sexually attacked by fathers or other male members of her family. Some had been horribly abused by men they had become involved with as young ladies. They were scared to death of men.. and could only function sexually with a masculine female.
On the other hand I am convinced the female who plays the male roll in a lesbian relationship is born that way. They walk like men.. they talk like men.. they react like men. They are in my opinion men in a female body. Neither are normal human beings.
Can people change from a natural state? Certainly. In the vernacualar a Butch can change from being a butch. And the female lesbian can learn to have a good relationship with a male.
But the solution is not to thow away less than perfect offspring. There is no Christianity in condeming sinners before judgement day. The Bible teaches us to reach out .. even when rejected. The primary job of Christians is to save souls.
It is not the job or the right of Alan Keyes to condem his daughter or anyone's daughter. It is job and duty of Alan Keyes to try to save his daughter's soul. Jesus reached out to sinners and set an example. His teachings are the embodyment of hate the sin but love the sinner.
Men like Alan Keyes do not live the teachings of the bible. Key's certainly knew at least since puberty that his now twenty somthing daughter was a lesbian.
But Alan put him self in a spot. He had to know his daughter was gay.. but he also wanted to srike out at Dick Cheney. So he struck out at Cheney's daughter... Then felt he had no option when the media pointed out his daughters sexual preference, but to strike out at his own child.
Keyes proves day after day that he worships attention and power. He will do what ever the devil asks in his attempt to acquire it.
For men like Keyes the devil only promises. The Devil knows need never deliver. Keyes is a sorry case of a very failed human being.
I have often attacked Alan Keyes on Free Republic. But he is no longer a political force on an opposing side. he is a sad example of a failed human being.
Yep, not like anything's changed for the better.
Call me crazy, but I find the phrase "turn my kids out" repugnant. My adult children, if they would be in dire straights, would always have a home with me.
And in turn, as we have such a close and loving relationship, they may take me in someday, in my old age. It's all about love, caring, respect...and family.
Wow, now where did I get that idea from....hmmmm, somewhere at the top of the article perhaps?
Republican disowns lesbian daughter
Perhaps you should take your own advice
I know quite well I'm no better than the daughter. I am not homosexual nor do I condone the lifestyle but I also know without the righteousness of Christ, I appear the same way to God that she does. I also know that my parents could have 'disowned' me for parts of my lifestyle and friendships that I established over the years. But as someone that should have been disowned by my parents years ago, I thank God they didn't because I would not have had another avenue to truly witness God's love for me so upfront and close. But it's clear that those that approve of Keyes' actions don't see it the same way
I notice you didn't answer my actual question about disownment.
So you are saying Keyes and anyone who happens to agree with him is in the wrong. If you want to determine this based on your own personal experience, who am I to argue with that? At the same time, other opinions based on biblical teaching are as valid, if not moreso.
Birds of a feather flock together hmmm? Are you a Christophobe too? Keyes is following the courage of his convictions and many of us admire him for that, too bad you can't see it for yourself, says a lot about you and where you're coming from.
I feel Christian ideals help not undermine the conservative cause when understood and applied appropiately. I suggest just because you don't care for some of those who claim to speak for it that you don't automatically throw out the baby with the bathwater.
RE: "May I highly suggest that you actually study God's Word instead of following anti-Biblical sentiments coming from liberal religionists."
May I suggest you make sure your own closet is clean before you get on your friggin' high horse. May I suggest you pay closer attentions to the complexities and positives of human variety and individua choice and less attention to anti-gay dogma. May I suggest you actually get to know a gay person (even, *gasp*, befriend them) before you go condemning them to the depths of hell.
"Ms Keyes says she loves her parents and "totally understands" their position."
She loves them. They love her even though they disagree with the chosen behavior.
Nothing more needs to be said.
We have a very loving, close family too. It's wonderful isn't it.
28 year old son serving in Kuwait U.S. Army. Homeowner, Married with 2 children.
26 year old daughter - web site manager for a major credit card company...earns $43.00 per hours. Homeowner, married with 2 children.
24 year old son - works two jobs while waiting for opening at his primary union job in transportation. Married, Homeowner with no children.
20 year old son attending college, living at home and contributing to household chores and finances.
18 year old daughter, Straight "A" student, dancer, competitive archer. Will attend University next fall on scholarship.
All live in my neighborhood...like me, none are sinless, all have made mistakes. We see each other daily. But, they are responsible for their own lives. They don't depend on me to help them, but I would if circumstances dictated.
How about you?
The fundies are no match for me. I try to have
an open mind.
This is what amuses me about a certain brand of Christianity - it's all about the wrath and the burning and the judging.
No, it's not ALL about wrath, judging and burning, but it is amusing that your un-Biblical brand leaves those parts out.
The same Jesus that came to Atone for the sins of His sheep, is the exact same Jesus who will come again in Glory to judge the earth in wrath and will confine the unrepentent siners in hell.
Why do you lave out judgment, wrath and hell?
I don't know about Peach but I know what I would do. I would turn him into the law so he couild not hurt other children.
But I would not disown him. I would most likely spend a lot of time trying to figure out where I failed as a father and what I could do to help the situation.
But I don't have that problem. I have very normal and quite successful childern. That lets me go to bed at night thinking about what I did right. I would bet my right arm that Cheney has spent thousands of hours wondering if he had rasied her differently, would her life be better.
It'd be interesting to see you and Keyes meet in heaven. :-)
Well tell me where the two contradict one another. There's a natural division between what's good and what's evil. There can be no co-existence. Keyes daughter feels that her father still loves her but is just misguided. If that is the case then are you going to say that he doesn't?
I'm sure Keyes has a forgiving heart and will accept his daughter back into the fold once she REPENTS and sees the error of her ways just as the story of the prodigal son illustrates.
In the meantime you can't expect Keyes to allow his daughter to bring her perverse sick lifestyle into his household can you?
Most of the Keyes-bashers are either not Christian, "anti-fundie" (which is funny considering Keyes is *Catholic*, and/or lacking in their understanding of the Word.
So when some folks start ranting againt judgment, wrath, and hell it's probably more out of fear and ignorance than anything else.
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