Posted on 02/24/2005 4:02:20 PM PST by CHARLITE
Howard Dean and Yankee Democrats don't have a clue what it means to be a Southerner. It's not about Confederate flags. It's about honor, family, self reliance and American patriotism.
Who are these Confederate voters that Vermonter Howard Dean wants to represent? Is Jefferson Davis on the ballot again? I thought he was dead, along with the Confederate States of America. Hey, Im a Southerner, why didnt I get the memo? Duh, Dean was just being "hisself", a Yankee liberal, describing voters as he sees people divided by race, class and gender. What a hoot. Liberals imagine identity politics fit real people. Dean should listen to Yellow Dawg Democrat Zell Miller.
Confederate Voter is the wrong term. Democrats covet the White Southern Voter. True, the white Southerner majoritys ancestors were Confederates, but that provides the wrong connotation slavery, segregation and racism that doesnt fit the present and the future. The South is different from the rest of the country in significant measures, but the distinction isnt "Confederate", its simply "The South". Yankees and liberals just dont get it, although Dean did stumble over truth when he talked down to Southerners to get over race, guns, God and gays. Behind "race, guns, God and gays" are issues based on values.
The South is about deep-fried shared values, history, and identity. Better universities have courses on Southern culture. Psychologists can test for regional attitude and behavior differences. The differences matter when Southerners vote. If only the liberals could understand that complex thoughts - not easy divisions of race, class and gender - reside in the heads of most Southerners. Liberals shouldnt forget that Southern culture encourages a fierce passion for ideas held as right. Over 300,000 dead Yankees learned that lesson.
Here are some ideas held in common:
Slavery, segregation and racism are wrong. They are sins against God. There are white, black and other racists. None are respected.
The Confederate battle flag is a racist symbol only to racists, demagogues (liberals, thus Democrats), and dummies. To Southerners, Confederate symbols stand for courage, sacrifice, and fidelity. The people who want to oppress the Cross of St. Andrew want to suppress the Cross of Jesus.
The American flag is the highest national symbol and beloved above all else.
There are absolute truths, unchanging and yet always relevant, in the Holy Bible, the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution.
The Bible Belt is buckled by people who actually read the Bible, believe it and evangelize it more than any other region. From a Biblical world view come the values that count.
Ten Commandments. Our culture and laws are based on our Judeo-Christian values. Historical fact is not hate, nor is it "imposing" beliefs, nor is it a separation-of-church-and-state issue. Its a free-speech and freedom-of-religion issue. This issue draws from the same power as Martin Luther and Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Watch out.
Family First. Your name is all you have really in life. You can not shame your last name your People. Honor is personal, familial and real.
Love the Land. Hunting, fishing, and animals are all part of good stewardship, using and preserving our natural blessings.
Men and Women are different for good purposes. Men should be gentlemen. Women should be ladies. Marriage is between one man and one woman only.
Sexual sins are wrong. Adultery, homosexuality, incest and bestiality are all wrong. Tolerate homosexuals -- theyre your kin -- but dont honor them.
Fight when right. Serving in the military is an honor. Fighting for freedom is worth the cost no matter what.
Defend yourself. We have a right and duty to defend our persons, our family and home and neighbors with whatever it takes, including personal firearms.
Leave us alone. Tax less, govern less, nanny less, lecture less, because we want the individual freedom for our family, our property, our opportunity, our liberty to prosper.
Crime leads to poverty. Poverty doesnt cause crime. Our ancestors built something from nothing and re-built it again after destruction. Better to earn your way in life than take a handout. Better to be poor and free than rich and slave.
We are Americans first. We are Federalists who believe in the Constitution as it was intended, not as it has become with the Judicial Oligarchy and Federal Behemoth. We dont want to be ruled by the U.N. or anybody else. We dont give a damn what foreigners think of us. And, frankly, my dear, we dont give a damn what Yankees think of us (and that really bothers them).
We are conservatives based on convictions. We are not loyal to any Party, as much as to our Principles.
The Democrats can con Southern voters like Bill Clinton did. But, the Democrats are on the wrong side of ACW II (the Great U.S. Culture War, 1962-TBD) for the South. A few factors can change that:
If Southern culture, fueled by Christian evangelism, is ascending, then the immigrant invasion (foreign and Northern) will add to the Southern census - and conservative votes - after each generation of assimilation.
If the Liberal Cultural Cleansing, most ruthless in government schools, is gaining and Southerners are weak enough to surrender, then Liberals can win elections.
If blacks ever get off the Democrat plantation, then the South will explode as a conservative haven, hope and success. Progress is so slow in this emancipation. Yet, the irony is how Southern values white and black are so close. We are united more by culture than we are divided by race.
As a Republican, Im glad that Dean and the Democrats think talking slowly means youre stupid. As a man actually named "Bubba" all my life, Im proud to be disdained by any non-Southerner - and non-conservative, non-camily, anti-evangelical Christian - "youse guys".
October 6, 2003
James Atticus Bowden has specialized in inter- disciplinary, long-range "futures" studies for more than a decade. He is employed by a Defense Department contractof for the Future Combat Systems. A 1972 graduate of the United States Military Academy, he is a retired Army Infantry Officer. He earned graduate degrees from Harvard University and Columbia University. He holds two elected Republican Party positions in Virginia.
Mr. Bowden's e-mail address is: jatticus@aol.com
i KNEW you would NOT be BIG ENOUGH to ADMIT your RACISM & APOLOGIZE. and that you would TRY/FAIL to change the subject.
just like a DY!
free dixie,sw
admit what you SAID, apologize like "a nice boy" & be done with it.
i would think that the example of HANOI-john Kerry, another DAMNyankee, who lost because of NEVER admitting the TRUTH would have convinced everyone that it's better/smarter to ADMIT you are WRONG, APOLOGIZE & be done with it.
free dixie,sw
I should have you bounced out of here just on that comment alone.
You are calling me a 'moron' when there is no post #645! on this thread. Read which post this is, far away from the 600's.
You are incapable on commenting on the commodities thread so just say so in relation to the same old song and dance which is what rednecks can only do.
I apologize for thinking anyone could reason with you, which is obliviously impossible due to the fact of your one issue 1865 mindset.
Go play with your toy confederate soldiers before they attack an old lady or something LOL
Listen to Steve Earle's song Copperhead Road, and then you tell me.
as long as you do NOT apologize for your (REMOVED by the "admin mod", darn it!) RACIST COMMENT (#645), i will EMBARRASS you at every opportunity & on every thread you post on! ther is NO PLACE on FR for RACISTS!
(full disclosure here. several of the SOUTHRONS on FR are watching your posts for MORE inappropriate comments.)
we southrons have LONG MEMORIES & you DESERVE public HUMILIATION for your RACIST COMMENT about American Indians, our culture & religious traditions.
perhaps you'd be HAPPIER on DU, where HATERS & FOOLS live! be gone.
free dixie,sw
Ah yes, how could I have forgotten about the neo-confederate P/C police, with the head cop Robert E. Schmuck & Col. Schmedrick. Which monitoring Gestapo goons are are always on the job making sure everyone is 100 confederate, Sounds like Russia, North Korea, Nazi Germany and Castro's Cuba to me :)
Where is #(#645) on this thread? Have you gone totally bonkers in terms of understand how number operate>
we southrons have LONG MEMORIES
You mean those giant insects from outer space the 'Southrons'?
I discovered what that DU is. That place is full of commies, pinkos, wackos, Islamo-nazi promoters, labourites, Red-Dems homoliberals, womens lib lesbo-man-haters, Bushbashers, GOP haters and most likely E.U. supporters as well. Why don't you go over there and drive them insane.
How come you knew about DU? I did not until two days ago.
"there is NO PLACE on FR for RACISTS!" I agree with you, so lets get rid all of these segregationists? Are you at least willing to assist in cleaning house?
If you want to get TRULY ethnographic about which group of people have disproportionately served in the military, you can easily identify the descendents of Scots-Irish from Appalachia, the deep south and the lower Midwest.
A good book on the subject: Born Fighting : How the Scots-Irish Shaped America.
Something to keep in mind. The reason most of us Yankees really don't obsess about the Civil War is that few of our ancestors were even IN THIS COUNTRY when the shooting started. Most of the REAL "yankees" moved west a long time ago.
--That the curator of the Smithsonian's agriculture collection agreed with your opinions on the effectiveness of 1850s cotton harvesting machines, when in fact the man you named as such isn't the agricultural collection curator and both he and the real curator disagree with you.
--That the State of Texas declared war on Germany during WW2, commissioned privateers who captured a U-Boat, and that that U-Boat is now on display in a Galveston park.
--That this information came from a book which you identified by name and author and claimed to be available through the University of Houston library, but which turns out to be a short magazine article from a boating magazine of the 1970s.
--That there's a single "national headquarters" of the KKK, and it's in Ohio.
--That while you were in grad school, you were allowed to see "secret" Lincoln letters in which he says all sorts of racist things, but which a massive conspiracy of northern academics has successfully kept from becoming public, even though they let you see them.
--Oh, and that Kirk Lyons is a fine guy, without a racist bone in his body, and the fact that his marriage by Aryan Nations founder Richard Butler, to one of Butler's followers, means nothing.
The rhythms, cadences, and even the tone of the lyrics ("The Irish, all their wars are happy and all their songs are sad") are almost purely Celtic (Scot and Irish).
why not come clean & APOLOGIZE???
apology for wrongs committed is good for the soul.
free dixie,sw
bttt
So, what's your take on slavery? Good, or evil?
Southerners often forget this map: (I see lots of red in the North and lots of blue in the South)
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