Posted on 02/16/2005 1:06:24 PM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
Edited on 02/16/2005 1:22:13 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
CNN liberal girly-man Bruce Morton just completed a segment on Inside Politics the point of which was to encourage Americans to stop boycotting French products.
His pitch came in the course of a segment demonstrating - through poll results and conciliatory remarks by Condi Rice - that American attitudes toward France are thawing.
He concluded his piece, standing at a bar with many bottles of (presumably French) wine in evidence, by instructing us "so have a glass of French wine, or eat a French fry - they're good!"
Thanks, Brucie, but when it comes to my personal economic foreign policy, I'll take guidance from my own principles, not from over-the-hill liberal hacks like you.
1) Let's talk friendship and loyalty, then, Madam. In the 20th century alone, French soldiers either fought or were deployed alongisde US troops in the following occasions :
- World War 1
- World War 2
- Korean War
- Lebanon, 1983
- Iraq, 1990-1991
- Somalia, 1993
- ex-Yugoslavia, 1995-1999
- Afghanistan, 2001
- Haiti, 2003
So all in all I don't think we have many lessons to be taught in terms of LOYALTY and FRIENDSHIP here, Madam. I really don't. Did US troops fight with French soldiers against Algerian rebels, even when those rebels used terror bombings against France civilians ? No, I don't think so, and IIRC the USA were busy looking for a UN condemnation of French operations then, what a coincidence.
2) French weapons supposedly discovered in Iraq and that would have been sold under the embargo : please provide a link to that, and please not just an excerpt from Bill Gertz's book or that Roland missile non-story that was killed as a mistake on this here forum.
30 US weapons sales to Arab nations : oh, the weapons were not totally up to date so it's okay ? And arming Egypt or Pakistan - countries which are just a coup away from becoming an radical Islamist state with 800 modern M1A1 tanks or F-16s isn't a problem ? Respectfully, Madam, I don't think either Israel or India would agree with you.
THe only time I watch CNN (if you could call it watching) is when I'm at the airport and have a very loooooong connection.
No thanks. My ancestral homeland produces great hams, Kielbasa/y, and Paczki. Wine is another matter (I don't drink Vodka).
Ah, the Peter Finn School of Rewriting History ! I'll just add these little corrections, because quite frankly it's getting late here.
Gallic wars : I see you willfully forget the part when Brennus, a Gaul, sacks Rome.
Hundred Years War : Sorry, Peter, but we won.
Italian Wars : Funny how you seem to despise Italians, Peter. They have brought the world modern banking, art, engineering, and yet you feel free to be snotty with them ? Tsk,tsk,tsk.
French Revolution : Sorry ? The opponent was also French ? My, Peter, what about the Austrian armies, the British involvement ? You sure have a very selective memory, Peter - always a useful tool when you want to ignore the truth.
The Napoleonic Wars : Funny how you skip the French victories that led the Grande Armee to Moscow. But at least you're consistent on ignoring the truth that don't fit your slurs.
WW1 : Give me your lecture when your country will have withstood 1.4 million casualties in 4 years without having its moral broken, Pete.
Indochina : my, yes we lost, and the US forces that took our places fared little better - or did I miss the united, Conservative and prosperous VietNam these last 30 years, Pete ?
Algerian War : what a funny coincidence ! When French forces were fighting Muslim terrorists, did we get US support, on the field or at the UN ? My GOd, no, just the contrary indeed !
You should try Polish wine. I'm sure you have never drunk anything like this.
Please re-read my posts, timy. My suggestion here is that should the Poles withdraw their troops before the US ones, they'll probably get the same treatment the Spaniards and Danes got : ethnic insults on these here threads.
You say the US will reward Poland for its steadfastness> Well, Poland asked for a more favorable visa policy from the USA months ago, and yet hasn't been given even that. Do you think it's a fair way to deal with a staunch ally ?
My wife and some of my friends have been boycotting the french on a "oh, that's french? put it back.." basis. Lately, we've started thinking that maybe our problem is with paris, and not france as a whole. We think that maybe the folks in the rural areas - the wine makers, for example - are actually conservative. We figure this because they are probably horribly taxed and hate the government. What are your thoughts? We haven't relaxed our boycott - yet.
No need to drink any French wines. There are tons of quality wines out there at reasonable prices from US, Australia, New Zealand and Chile.
I have forever linked Bruce Morton with slime.
Really? When in your lifetime have french forces won? What an ungrateful bunch of useless, arogant fools the french and their supporters are. How many Americans have sacrificed their lives to save the french? Far more than would willingly do it now. Please enjoy the coming transformation of Europe into an Islamic state. Best of luck going it alone without the help of the savages of the US. I'm sure the french skills of corruption and appeasement will come in handy.
You may be more aware than I. But, I won't stand down on my original argument. They, indeed, are our friends.
The ball and chain is of French ancestry, and even she can't stand the lot of 'em.
Me not being a wine drinker, I don't have any problem boycotting that.
Nor do I have a problem profiting handsomely from the great antiques I buy there. Capitalism is so much more enjoyable when the profit realized results from the spoils gathered in a land of socialists.
Alors, it is the Peter Finn School of Rewriting Abruti History.
This has been on the Internet for quite a while and I do not take credit for it.
Better to ask the questions:
How many Americans died at the hands of the French in North Africa in 1942?
How many British and American airmen died at the hands of French civilians in WW2 before German Air Marshal Goering made it a death penalty offense for the French to harm Allied airmen? A NAZI had to protect Americans from the French.
How many Americans died in Vietnam because the French FUBAR'd the whole thing?
How many Americans died during the Civil War because France sided with the Confederacy and ran arms to the rebels?
How many Americans died building the Panama Canal because of French intrigues and obstructionism?
How many Americans died in Iraq because France sided with our enemy?
Which country led by Chuck DeGaulle received an ultimatum from the USA and Britain when it threatened to align with Stalinist Russia in 1947?
Whose secret service agents (Surete) sank a Greenpeace ship in a New Zealand harbor (an act of war)?
Which Western country will not stop atmospheric testing of nuclear weapons?
Whose Finance Minister publicly stated that the purpose of the European Union is "the military and economic displacement of the United States"?
And which European country is noted for being rude and arrogant?
(Hint: it ain't Lichtenstein)
Excellent recap of the constant betrayal of US by the french scum.
It appears to me that all their citizens with guts and conviction were killed in WWI and WWII. The gene pool left in france is very lacking of a backbone and sense of decency.
Hard to say how the small growers think. Still, the boycott causes serious problems for the French government, and thus for the time being I believe it's worthwhile maintaining.
bttt
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