Posted on 02/07/2005 3:03:09 PM PST by EveningStar
Medved on O'Reilly tonight to debate Million Dollar Baby.
Fox: 8 Easter / 5 Pacific
RE: "Nah, he's just got good taste"
Excuse me, sir, while I pause a minute to laugh my ass off...
Okay, I'm back.
RE: "Some things "really cool" to you might be viewed as crude by others. How about arm wrestling, mud wrestling, dikes on bikes?"
All fine and dandy with me. Besides, he didn't say that he considered female boxing to be crude, but an abomination, and that carries a far more negative connotation, as if he doesn't believe that women should have the right to box in the first place, or that they are inferior to men somehow.
In truth, he sounds a bit like Bobby Riggs before the fall.
How many women played in the Super Bowl? Why not? If gender bias is 'BS'?
If the term "women boxers" causes some kind of an irrational, hateful reaction deep in your mind, then you've probably got a personal problem that you should look at.
I'm also old enough to remember that in the old Soviet Union, a difference in political opionion was considered a mental disease.
So, 'cuz I think women are too weak in the upper body and lack the aggressiveness to be a good boxer I have a mental illness?
Heck, that dyke that beat him was more man than he was.
If women are physically so equal, let's repeal all the domestic violence laws. Hmmm?
You have just clearly defined your sense of propriety. That about wraps things up for me, kid.
She wasn't fighting a man. And, I was talking about the condition she found herself in....the decision she had to make at the end.
RE: "No. No, at long last, it's not OK. I've not gotten the brainwashing my whole life like you have. Men and women are profoundly different."
But that's just the point. You think that just because the society of your youth sought fit to drill a certain set of blatantly sexist beliefs into your head (read: brainwash you) when you were a kid that those beliefs are the Gospel truth. Uh, Uh, buddy-- that's NOT the way it works. What's wrong is wrong, nomatter what year you were born or who your parents were.
RE: "Hey, how many women did you see playing in the Super Bowl?"
Hey, how many coaches do you see willing to allow a woman on their team (nomatter the talent)?
RE: "Right. And women are crappy boxers (have you ever seen them?) so they shouldn't do that."
I've indeed seen women box. It's pretty exciting, and just as entertaining as an all-male boxing match.
So?
And, I was talking about the condition she found herself in....the decision she had to make at the end.
What decision? To be or not to be? We have that decision at every instant, every day. That's well plumbed ground with not much left to be learned (see Hamlet).
It's just a weird new idea that it's ok to die if you aren't having enough fun.
It's pure hedonism--no one wants to die when they feel happy...
RE: "It was very silly, but enjoyable 'cuz it didn't have a message."
Yeah, God forbid a movie actually require you to THINK a little bit. Van Helsing is probably a little more up your ally.
From Ebert's review of the currently playing Kevin Bacon film, The Woodsman:
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"For the first several scenes of "The Woodsman," we know that Walter has recently been released from prison but we don't know the nature of his crime. Seeing the film at Cannes last May, I walked in without advance knowledge and was grateful that I had an opportunity to see Kevin Bacon establish the character before that information was supplied. His crime has now been clearly named in virtually everything written about the film, and possibly changes the way it affects a viewer.
"Walter is a pedophile."
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There it is. Your god, giving away a surprise element about a main character in a currently released film, and fobbing it off as "everyone else is saying it," with no further vitriol issued to the other critics.
Gee.
RE: "I also hated Meet Joe Black"
To paraphrase Ed MacMahon (or the SNL version, at least): "Yes! You are Correct, Maam!"
BWAHAHAHAHA!!
Then how come we have different physical standards in the Army if women are my physical equal?
Why are there still domestic violence laws to protect women if they are physically equal?
I don't know what part of your politics is 'right'--you have the leftist agitprop down pat from school, movies and TV.
I'll have you know, I care very deeply about 'the cinema'....
LOL!
RE: "If women are physically so equal, let's repeal all the domestic violence laws. Hmmm?"
Nope. I've always been for the fair and equal application of the domestic violence laws against spouses of both genders who appallingly beat their significant others. It just so happens that men committ the vast majority of domestic battery against their wives (a fact that cannot be spun or ignored), but I'm all for locking up a woman who beats her husband, or a man that beats his gay lover, etc...
Women just do not really like feminist, 'anti-sex-bias' sensitive guys. They really don't. It's a conundrum.
Hey, how come there aren't any great women movie directors out there? Hmmmm?
RE: "You have just clearly defined your sense of propriety. That about wraps things up for me, kid."
No one is stopping you from leaving this thread if you want to. You will not be seen as having conceded anything; I myself am probably going to abandon this thread (Internet) to pursue sleep in only a few more minutes (it's a quarter past midnight where I live).
Besides, "propriety" is about the most utterly subjective, useless, do-nothing trait a person can have, and I have no love for it.
For openers, words are of different genders. People are of different sexes.
Spouses of both sexes? What? If they are spouses, who is appallingly beating whose significant other?
Man, you've got a case of PC Speak real bad.
I'm going to bed now....
RE: "It's just a weird new idea that it's ok to die if you aren't having enough fun.
It's pure hedonism--no one wants to die when they feel happy..."
Careful there. Didn't your mother ever teach you that it's not right to make fun of the less fortunate-- lest you become one of them yourself and you are forced to accept what you put out. The truth is that you can never know what someone in Maggie's state would be feeling unless it happens to you.
'Cuz that is what the audience demanded to make this movie a success. What he did appeals to the lowest common denominator that goes to, and critiques, movies.
You're acting like an agenda exists that simply doesn't.
Yeah, it's not like there was a whacked out doctor killing people for their own good on TV and groups lobbying in favor of euthanasia.... It's not like there is a court battle in Florida about snuffing some chick.
What's the matter with you?
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