Posted on 02/07/2005 3:03:09 PM PST by EveningStar
Medved on O'Reilly tonight to debate Million Dollar Baby.
Fox: 8 Easter / 5 Pacific
RE: "SHUT UP, I hate you but I loved Mystic River"
I never thought that we'd agree on something, but it finally happened twice:
a.) We both love Mystic River (what a deeply moving and tragic movie that was)
b.) We hate each other (God, how I loathe everything you stand for).
You didn't answer my question....
So should pot heads and crack heads get the same sentence?
RE: "From an 18 year old to a 22 year old
You're really pissing allot of people off"
Doesn't bother me at all. If I bent my deeply held personal beliefs on the cinema just to be more "popular" on this site, what kind of a man would I be?
You're not rude and insulting. I agree with everything you've said and I say that as a happily married mother of 3 daughters, ages 16, 18 and 21. We all enjoy a good movie and like to discuss it afterwards. I wish there were more made like this one.
RE: "I HATE and I mean absolutely HATE when men say they're for Women's rights AKA abortion. Like I'm supposed to be grateful and admiring."
I meant that I support equal pay for women for working the same jobs as men, and that I support female service and advancement in the armed forces and at all professional and political levels in our society.
I loathe abortion, which you would know if you had bothered to read a little further on my homepage before launching another one of your patented half-assed diatribes.
RE: "Acting depends on the ability of the audience to suspend disbelief. Many movies/TV shows are built on the premise that an actor is a "good guy" or the "hero". If we know that in real life Alec Baldwin is a left-wing jerk, or to use a hypothetical was a child molester, its difficult to put that aside and root for him."
But don't you see that it is YOUR problem, not Alec Baldwin's, if YOU cannot (or choose not to) discern between his private life and the character's he portrays on screen. Baldwin can certainly make such a distinction-- for example, there are few if any similarities between the pampered pacifist that Alec is in real life and the ruthlessly cunning (do-it-yourself) casino boss he played to an Oscar nomination in the Cooler.
Its a travesty and a smack in the face of every person who went to see Passion that it was not nominated for best picture, that Mel Gibson was not nominated for best director, and Jim Caviezel for giving a fantastic perfomance in, I'm sorry, the most demanding role in the history of movies. The woman who played Mary deserves a supporting nod as much as the worthless, brainless starlets they usually nominate.
The one argument I heard was it was too violent: oh yeah, too violent like say, last year's winner LOTR, with arrows stabbed into people's eyes, heads, arms and legs lopped off? Point blank arrows shot into people's bodies? Or how about American Beauty, another recent winner, with underage nudity (Thora Birch was 16 when she bared her breasts on that movie) pedophilia and finally a point-blank gunshot to the head? Or how about another recent winner, Gladiator. There was some violence in that I think, oh yeah, the protagonists wife and son were raped, CRUCIFIED and burned alive. Also decapitations, disembowelings, patricide, incest, killing for sport and other various and sundry atrocities.
The difference is the Passion is violence with a purpose and with meaning. Not for gratuitous tittlilation. Much like the violence in Schindler's List, which also had full frontal nudity. But it was valid because it had MEANING. And that won best pic and Speilburg won best director. Now it seems like there is some kind of double standard at work here. I have read that the Hollywood Jewish lobby are the ones who killed Passion's chances at any major award. They hate this movie. And why? Intolerance. Ignorance. The major heroes: Jesus, St. Peter, St. Mary, Veronica, ALL JEWS! So how is it bashing Jews? I am sickened by this reaction because I truly believe most Christians have no animosity toward Jews and their religion or traditions.
Besides the fact the academy cut off its nose to spite its face. The Oscars would have had their biggest audience EVER if the Passion had been nominated. People who have never seen the Oscars, don't care, or haven't watched in years would have tuned in. But the powers that be in Hollywood would rather ignore perhaps the greatest film in the history of filmmaking before they would honor a truly pious and worthy director like Gibson. Its disgusting and there should be a HUGE outcry over this. This should not be allowed to pass.
They do get equal Pay,
Find that study, you'll see who released it, and how it was later proved erroniouse.
Alec Baldwin's Private life?
- You mean saying that women and children should be stoned to Death on TELEVISION?
Uh hu
RE: "so should a a marijuana USER and a crack USER receive the same punishment?"
Yup-- comprehensive drug rehabilitation. NO jail time.
RE: "I support.. blah blah blah blah- IT doesn't matter what you support"
Ah, but it matters what YOU support of course, hence the loaded question about the "same penalty".
That was a nice way of dodging the question
so should a a marijuana DEALER and a crack DEALER receive the same jail time
RE: "It's so wonderful of you to stand up for the Honor of Clint Eastwood."
Thank you; Clint's a brilliant and talented artist and I appreciate his contributions to the art of cinema for the last 40 years. I sure as s*** would rather stand up for his honor than yours, as you probably haven't achieved anything a fraction as memorable and beloved as Eastwood has in his life.
I know this is good practice for you, but seriously, you are showing your age. He answered the question, you didn't like it, so you changed the question. Very high school (and DUish).
RE: "ackwards ignorance of the American cinema
Why, because you sit home and watch movies all day long?"
No, because I've seen more than a few of them in my whole lifetime, and I don't tend to drag my BS political agenda into my opinions of them.
Medved said that the priest asked about the "silly idea" of a Trinity was flabbergasted and couldn't give an intelligent response.
RE: "Why can't we be rude and insulting to a millionaire actor/director? Did you invest in the movie?"
No reason not to be rude and insulting to Eastwood if you think that he is an ignorant of offensive man, just like there's no reason that I can't be rude and insulting to you when I believe that you fit those loathsome categories.
RE: "You're still an obnoxious kid."
And you're still an arrogant old fart.
Wrong, kid.
RE: ""Eye of the beholder" is merely another way of saying "Truth is relative."
You're right, and it is. Your version of "the truth" about Hollywood's "agenda" sounds like the childish rantings of a lunatic to me-- far from anything resembling the truth.
RE: "You didn't answer my question....
So should pot heads and crack heads get the same sentence?"
I did answer the question. You're just ignoring that answer because it doesn't fit your own. Yes, pot heads and crack heads should get the same "sentence"-- in rehabilitation, not jail.
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