Posted on 02/07/2005 3:03:09 PM PST by EveningStar
Medved on O'Reilly tonight to debate Million Dollar Baby.
Fox: 8 Easter / 5 Pacific
"She had the Heart and Courage to punch other girls in the head, but when it came to the greatest challenge of her real life, she didn't even come out of her corner!"
"A gripping story of cowardice and moral confusion!"
"In this movie, we make it look like girls can really box!"
"Watching girls hit each other is almost as emotionally satisfying as watching them die."
What is even more scary is that they can't seem to take watching something that is against their views. I can read the Korana nd I won't become a Muslim. I can see this movie and not become an advocate for euthanasia. They are so weak willed and weak minded - and thus the project that weakness on to others - and the assume everyone is this weak willed and weak minded - that if people go to see this movie they will be converted to being pro-euthanasia.
And the power of Christ compels you.
"She had the Heart and Courage to punch other girls in the head, but when it came to the greatest challenge of her real life, she didn't even come out of her corner!"
"A gripping story of cowardice and moral confusion!"
"In this movie, we make it look like girls can really box!"
"Watching girls hit each other is almost as emotionally satisfying as watching them die."
Coggy, if you're the critic, I can't WAIT to see this junk! ROFL...
Eastwood has always told us before that "might makes right" if might is consciously working on the side of the ultimate good.
"Dirty Harry" and all Eastwood's westerns (like Ford's reluctant hero, John Wayne, in "The Searchers") eventually shows us the bad guys looses and right prevails somehow.
At the very least, if right doesn't prevail, like in "Three Days of the Condor," we're shown that it should prevail.
A story's core must be consistent and ultimately redeeming, according to how human beings have defined "redemption" after three thousand years of fiction.
Dirty Harry was redemptive -- the bad guy gets plugged. Good.
MDB is not redeeming; a mangled, though sentient human being is destroyed as so much refuse.
Broken bodies are not refuse, even though the agenda these days is to see anything less than perfect as better destroyed.
That's real "StaliNazis."
"MDB made me so sad I begged for someone to kill my fat ass"--Roger Ebert
"Field of Dreams" worked for me.
"Comedies, romances, action-adventures, and even sad, tragic, unhappy movies can accomplish this -- must accomplish this in order for us to feel we've not wasted our time in the darkness being hit in the face with a putrefying pie of somebody's sick agenda."
Hear ya...
Too often I've felt the need to take a shower after watching the average Hollywood fare.
People are wising up to Hollywood's assumption that what their audiences are is masochists who revel in being used and degraded.
Where did you get the impression that it's supposed to be a good thing in the movie? I have seen it, and I did get that impression at all.
Finally...A critique I can respect Ebert...
But salvation is not his to give or take. As human beings, we either believe that all things, suffering included, are given to us by God for a reason, or else we're adrift on our own on planet earth.
Read "The Problem of Pain" by C.S. Lewis.
I knew a woman whose husband had Huntington's Chorea, diagnosed after they had children. After she nursed her husband night and day for years until he died, she then nursed her three children night and day for 20 more years until they, too, died from the hereditary disease.
She did not ever once think of killing them, even though they became completely vegetative. She did not think of killing herself.
She knew, every second of every day, that one day they would all be together again -- whole, strong and happy in Paradise.
Would that Eastwood had even a tiny bit of that faith.
O'Reilly insinuated that Eastwood had some kind of problem with his own daughter (in the story) and that he had let the daughter down somehow and that the girl in the story was his surrogate daughter who he decides not to let down. If that is a good thing, I guess is up to the viewer.
Did O'Reilly say that the assisted suicide was a good thing? I thought I read where he liked this movie.
You are living in a world of unreality - Eastwood told us no such thing - he played a FICTIONAL character.
But your words illustrate it all. Do you think what you are watching is real? Are you so weak willed you assume others are as well and will be converted by this movie to being pro-Euthanasia?
Clint is a good artist and he is a good American. His art has enriched the medium while entertaining his audiences.
Men seem to like "Field of Dreams."
I think it's the thing about the "father-son" relationship. But as far as the logic of the fantasy, it didn't hold together.
I really liked "Joe vs. the Volcano," though most people feel it's a nutty movie that falls apart.
No accounting for taste.
But neither of those films negatively effects society like MDB does. People often think according to the last thing that was inputed into their heads. When we leave the theater after seeing MDB, our heads are filled with intentional murder and non-redemptive suffering.
Satanic.
Excellent case in point to further your premise, the story of Joni Earekson. If any FReepers have never read her story or heard her give interviews on T.V., it is WORTH the time and effort to do so. A beautiful & active young lady, she dove head first into a lake, severing her spinal cord and becoming a parapelgic. She didn't want to live either. You should see what she is able to do, and has done even to this day. She is an inspiration to all. Do take the time to read her story. Look her up on the internet. It's worth it. Guaranteed.
Your weak mind is - not mine.
Should be that she dove head first into a shallow part of a lake.
My mistake. Corrected.
"FICTIONAL characters" don't detract from the message, do they?
"Do you think what you are watching is real? Are you so weak willed you assume others are as well and will be converted by this movie to being pro-Euthanasia?"
I suppose you believe Hollywood is all about "art" and "entertainment"...without an agenda?
MEMO: The tooth-fairy is NOT real.
Have you ever read Marshall Mcluhan? -- "We become what we behold. We shape our tools and then our tools shape us."
"Unforgiven" was a brilliant film. "MDB" is garbage; I fear Eastwood is senile.
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