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STATE OF THE UNION -- 2005 [Live Thread]
2/2/05

Posted on 02/02/2005 3:43:44 PM PST by Timeout

The pre-spin: Bush will spend about 1/2 the speech on foreign policy, 1/2 on domestic, with heavy emphasis on Social Security reform. It's said he will provide a detailed tutorial on the SS system and its problems with a few details on his personal accounts proposal.

Laura's guests are said to be an Afghan voter and an Iraqi voter (too bad there's no Ukrainian wearing an orange hat!).

Should we start a drinking game on how many times the pool camera swings to Hillary? Hmmm. Probably not...it would likely hamper out typing ability.

Word on the blogs has it that the closing part of the speech is a hum-dinger. Set your VCR's.

Report here on outrageous MediaCrat spin before AND after the SOTU. Pictures and screen caps welcome.


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To: ohioWfan

WHAT??????


4,241 posted on 02/02/2005 8:47:12 PM PST by Howlin (It's a great day to be an American -- and a Bush Republican!!!!)
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To: NorCalRepub
Oh, I am glad I checked one more time before I went to bed.

Why don't I forgive? I do...but I don't do so until someone shows that they have repented. She has not, but instead said she wishes she had been harsher.

And this is not the first time she has done this. She has published snipes at the President before. She will go for months supporting him, and then at a time when he needs support she will attack him in a sniping way. I don't have time to look up links tonight, but if you go back through all of her campaign columns, you will find a few.

My thing with her is the same as Bill Kristol. Although I might agree with them most of the time, they cannot be counted on as dependable allies.

Now I am going to bed.

4,242 posted on 02/02/2005 8:47:51 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

If "rich" geezers are to get nothing from Social Security, then why don't we just be honest and include it as part of the income tax, because that's exactly what it would be. Those who insist that the "rich" should pay into the system but get nothing out of it should be willing to acknowledge that what they are supporting is just another massive tax increase for the "rich". By the way, how do you define "rich"?


4,243 posted on 02/02/2005 8:48:11 PM PST by pollyg107
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Oh, they understand it all right! They are just scared spitless that the President is going to have another roaring success without their help, they just can't shut up!


4,244 posted on 02/02/2005 8:48:20 PM PST by luvie ("THE ROAD OF PROVIDENCE IS UNEVEN AND UNPREDICTABLE-YET WE KNOW...IT LEADS TO FREEDOM!"GWB 2-2-05)
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To: Kozak
So it's just welfare for old people right?

Yes.

If you've ever believed otherwise, you are quite naive, I'm afraid.

Why not do away with the farce and just roll the costs into the general revenue and tax system?

Okay.

Do I at least get a kiss for the d#cking I've been taking since I started working at the age of 16?

You'll have to submit that request to a Democrat.

They're into that sort of thing...

4,245 posted on 02/02/2005 8:48:20 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Freedom. Brought to you by the grace of God and the Red, White and Blue...)
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To: Dysfunctional
If you are not a rich geezer, the safety net is there, no matter how "at fault" you are about misjudgments or profligacy in your salad years. But most rich geezers, or near geezers, got there by means other than being dumb about assuming impudent risk or indulging spendthrift habits.
4,246 posted on 02/02/2005 8:48:33 PM PST by Torie
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To: Kozak

Ditto to what you said.


4,247 posted on 02/02/2005 8:48:36 PM PST by beandog (The only time I was wrong was the time I thought I was wrong)
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To: Torie
Will you support my candidacy for president? :)

I would if you put me in charge of campaign security. :)

4,248 posted on 02/02/2005 8:48:37 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (PEST/Suicide Hotline 1-800-BUSH-WON)
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To: NorCalRepub

I already told you, it was not her disagreement but her attitude. I cannot be any clearer.


4,249 posted on 02/02/2005 8:48:43 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: daybreakcoming

let me ask you....if your children of grandchildren do something wrong or something you don't agree with, do you villify them forever or do you forgive them......that is all I say.....you have used one episode in her whole history. To me that is shallow but you are entitled. I feel comfortable with the other Repubs that still call her friend


4,250 posted on 02/02/2005 8:49:07 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: Volunteer
The best present we could have is the end of Saudi Wahhabism which breeds intolerance and sponsors terrorism. If the Saudis don't establish a free society in their country we will support those who do want one. Its more than boiler-plate rhetoric - above all its a message to the Saudi regime they can't count on our looking away while they embezzle their nation's wealth, deny religious freedom to non-Muslims, and refuse to allow their people a say in who governs them. They ought to tremble in their sandals in Riyadh. I don't think the Saudi princes will sleep peacefully in their beds tonight. Welcome to the Era Of Bush.

Denny Crane: "There are two places to find the truth. God and then Fox News."

4,251 posted on 02/02/2005 8:49:19 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

LOL


4,252 posted on 02/02/2005 8:49:27 PM PST by Torie
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To: Howlin
When he started talking about Ohio, I slammed on the mute button.

Maybe someone else had the stomach to listen to what he actually said..................I didn't want to lose my supper......

4,253 posted on 02/02/2005 8:49:31 PM PST by ohioWfan (George W. Bush........AVENGER of the BONES!!)
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To: nutmeg; kellynch
I'm not quite sure why Charles Krauthammer said the speech was "pedestrian." I thought it was OUTSTANDING.

Well, remember Krauthammer has a much different standard than we do. I would guess he is talking about brilliant prose and momental ideas. I think a State of the Union speech is kinda a Laundry List of things. Tough to make it interesting, but I think the President did that very well.

Krauthammer was interested in the calling out of Egypt and SA, also the warnings to Iran and Syria....says that could indicate that if Syria doesn't do what they said they would do, we could get much tougher on them. And that if the Iranian Students really got rolling on overthrowing the Mullahs we would give help , perhaps!

4,254 posted on 02/02/2005 8:49:40 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: Kozak

They don't have such thing in Iran


4,255 posted on 02/02/2005 8:50:03 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: Howlin

Sheesh--I didn't know whales could walk on land!


4,256 posted on 02/02/2005 8:50:23 PM PST by silent_jonny (The Nightime Sniffling Sneezing Coughing Aching Stuffyhead Fever So You Can Freep Medicine)
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To: All
Oh look .. the man who walks on water

Help me .. I'm gonna barf

One for all us Rummy's Hunny's

For the Cheney Chicks amongst us

This is THE woman

I might be great in 2008

Did I turn off the electric curlers?

Yikes, my toe, my toe

Yeah.. that last episode of Desperate Housewives was funny

You were awesome, W!

4,257 posted on 02/02/2005 8:50:27 PM PST by STARWISE (IRAQ -- A four-letter word that means struggle,bloodshed, perseverence, courage,goodness &freedom!)
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To: NorCalRepub
"how many times in the past has she dissed the Pres? ......I don't see her as a hypocrite....."

This is not the first time she has dissed the President. To see her as a hypocrite is not so difficult if you've read what she's written in the past and compared it to what she writes today. It's sad but true.

4,258 posted on 02/02/2005 8:50:31 PM PST by A Citizen Reporter
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To: Maigrey
Another home run. Not with the clerical tyrants but with the Iranian people. A pointed message to Teheran.
4,259 posted on 02/02/2005 8:50:33 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Howlin
It's why the demoRAT party is disintegrating. They let the pervs and whackos take over and no one is fooled by it anymore.
4,260 posted on 02/02/2005 8:50:33 PM PST by John Lenin
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