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Volcanic Warming Eyed in 'Great Dying'
Yahoo! News | AP ^ | 1/20/05 | Randolph E. Schmid

Posted on 01/20/2005 12:30:29 PM PST by LibWhacker

WASHINGTON - An ancient version of global warming may have been to blame for the greatest mass extinction in Earth's history.

In an event known as the "Great Dying," some 250 million years ago, 90 percent of all marine life and nearly three-quarters of land-based plants and animals went extinct.

Scientists have long debated the cause of this calamity — which occurred before the era of dinosaurs — with possibilities including such disasters as meteor impacts.

Researchers led by Peter Ward of the University of Washington now think the answer is global warming caused by volcanic activity. Their findings are reported in Thursday's online edition of the journal Science.

They studied the Karoo Basin of South Africa, using chemical, biological and other evidence to relate layers of sediment there to similar layers in China that previous research has tied to the marine extinction at the same period.

Studying a 1,000-foot thick section of exposed sediment, Ward's team found evidence of a gradual extinction over about 10 million years followed by a sharp increase in extinction rate that lasted another 5 million years.

Ward's team believes the extinctions were caused by global warming and oxygen deprivation over long periods of time.

Massive volcanic flows in what is now Siberia brought on the warming while, at the same time, geologic action caused global sea levels to drop, Ward explained in a telephone interview.

"Once you expose a huge amount of underwater sediment to the atmosphere, two very bad things happen — a huge amount of carbon in the sediments is released and also methane. Once (methane) hits the atmosphere it's the most efficient greenhouse gas on the planet," he said.

That provided a one-two punch of warming and a decline in oxygen levels, he said.

"Some of us have been toying with the idea that dinosaurs evolved to be a low-oxygen adaptation," resulting from this era, Ward said. "We know birds can live at much lower oxygen concentrations than we do, and we and think there were similar lung adaptations in dinosaurs."

Currently the atmosphere consists of about 21 percent oxygen, but the addition of gases at that time could have lowered levels to 16 percent or less, Ward said.

"If you didn't live on the sea level you didn't live," he commented, reflecting the fact that oxygen concentrations decline with altitude. The result would have been to eliminate half the living space on the planet, said Ward.

The more recent mass extinction that killed the dinosaurs — 65 million years ago — has been linked to an impact by a large asteroid or comet that struck in an area off the coast of what is now Mexico and left a distinctive layer of dust worldwide.

Some researchers have argued that the Great Dying might also have resulted from such an impact, but Ward's team said it could find no evidence for such an event.

That doesn't mean there wasn't one, argues Luann Becker of the University of California at Santa Barbara, commenting that "the absence of evidence isn't evidence for absence."

Becker, who was not part of Ward's research team, said "they did a nice job of presenting the paleontological data and the stratigraphy, which seem to show some indication of an evolutionary change going on for a prolonged period of time." However, she added, she doesn't believe that addresses the subject of cause and effect.

"I think that this is an ongoing discussion," said Becker, who previously reported on a crater off the northwest coast of Australia that shows evidence of a large meteor impact at about the time of the early extinction.

Ward's research was funded by the NASA (news - web sites) Astrobiology Institute, the National Science Foundation (news - web sites) and the National Research Foundation of South Africa.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: archaeology; climatechange; environment; greatdying; history; karoo; volcanic; volcanoes
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1 posted on 01/20/2005 12:30:31 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: farmfriend


2 posted on 01/20/2005 12:34:27 PM PST by Brian328i
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To: LibWhacker

My theory on the Great Dying is that some species had reached a state of advancement in intelligence and technology that they were able to see into the distant future.

Upon seeing the event of Hillary Rodham, that decided that the only prudent course to save the universe was mass extinction.

Sadly, they failed.


3 posted on 01/20/2005 12:45:26 PM PST by JFK_Lib
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To: LibWhacker
Once you expose a huge amount of underwater sediment to the atmosphere, two very bad things happen — a huge amount of carbon in the sediments is released and also methane. Once (methane) hits the atmosphere it's the most efficient greenhouse gas on the planet," he said.

So the current "Global Warming Trend" advertised by the left will actually cause sea levels to rise thereby reducing the amount of underwater sediment to the atmosphere, reducing greenhouse gasses?

4 posted on 01/20/2005 12:51:35 PM PST by frog_jerk_2004
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To: frog_jerk_2004

These things are pretty complicated.

Really, Really enormous volcanic eruptions (Like the "Siberian Traps" eruption that covered an area the size of Europe with Lava and made every eruption of Yellowstone look like a joke by comparison) both cool the earth and heat it up.

They initially cool the earth with SO2 emissions; so it gets real cold, really fast. Then longer term you get global warming because of greenhouse gas emissions that stay in the atmosphere much longer.


5 posted on 01/20/2005 12:53:52 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: JFK_Lib
"Once you expose a huge amount of underwater sediment to the atmosphere, two very bad things happen — a huge amount of carbon in the sediments is released and also methane. Once (methane) hits the atmosphere it's the most efficient greenhouse gas on the planet," he said.

tHEY WERE KILLED BY A GIANT fART?.....

6 posted on 01/20/2005 12:55:02 PM PST by Red Badger (And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you FReep!........)
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To: LibWhacker
"90 percent of all marine life and nearly three-quarters of land-based plants and animals went extinct."

You mean Darwin's progressive evolution didn't occur?

Cataclysm is the key to species' existence and extinction?

Is the "Theory of Evolution" as posed by Darwin and contradicted by these scientific facts expunged from our schools?

7 posted on 01/20/2005 12:59:03 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Democrat Obstructionists will be Daschled!)
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To: Red Badger

I'd guess that the tususami released more methane than a billion SUVs in a hundred years.


8 posted on 01/20/2005 12:59:15 PM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: LibWhacker
"the absence of evidence isn't evidence for absence."

The same thing can be said for WMDs.

9 posted on 01/20/2005 1:01:33 PM PST by Library Lady
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To: Brad Cloven

Pretty clear you don't have even have the foggiest understanding of evolution.


10 posted on 01/20/2005 1:02:12 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: Brad Cloven
You mean Darwin's progressive evolution didn't occur?

Where do you get this from?

11 posted on 01/20/2005 1:03:18 PM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: Brad Cloven

But catastrophic events don't contradict evolutionary theory.


12 posted on 01/20/2005 1:06:17 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker
What's the lowest percentage of oxygen a human can live in and what percentage of oxygen is the equivalent to, say, the amount of oxygen at the top of Everest (which is about as high as humans can survive)? Anyone know?
13 posted on 01/20/2005 1:06:35 PM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: Strategerist
Really, Really enormous volcanic eruptions (Like the "Siberian Traps" eruption that covered an area the size of Europe with Lava and made every eruption of Yellowstone look like a joke by comparison) both cool the earth and heat it up.

Agreed. I've seen some discovery channel shows detailing this eruption. It really makes us appreciate how "calm" things are now geologically. After the tsunami, it seemed like most thought it was the biggest geological event ever.

I am curious if you saw anything new in this article. I saw a discovery channel program last year that mentioned the Russian volcano eruption as the probably cause of the great extinction. I was under the impression that this has been the prevailing hypothesis for a while.

14 posted on 01/20/2005 1:08:16 PM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: LibWhacker

Ok, according to Intelligent Design, God did it so there is no need for this absurd research. Wasting taxpayers dollars on professor's salalries when we all know it was God's will and we shouldn't think to much about it < /sarcasm>


15 posted on 01/20/2005 1:35:59 PM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: LibWhacker

More likely: a Global Winter. The lowering of sea levels he talks about is related to Ice Ages, where water on Earth and in its atmosphere is locked up in ice and glaciers, instead of flowing back into the sea again.


16 posted on 01/20/2005 1:39:10 PM PST by expatpat
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To: LibWhacker
"the absence of evidence isn't evidence for absence."

Sounds like a Dem request for a special prosecutor.

17 posted on 01/20/2005 1:39:58 PM PST by theDentist (Jerry Springer: PBS for White Trash)
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To: Strategerist

Sounds like my ice bucket.


18 posted on 01/20/2005 1:42:55 PM PST by Old Professer (When the fear of dying no longer obtains no act is unimaginable.)
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To: Library Lady

Carl Sagan used the absence/evidence argument famously in the 1970s, I believe; his disincorporated remains watch over us as we speak.


19 posted on 01/20/2005 1:45:58 PM PST by Old Professer (When the fear of dying no longer obtains no act is unimaginable.)
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To: Question_Assumptions

About 19%.


20 posted on 01/20/2005 1:47:34 PM PST by Old Professer (When the fear of dying no longer obtains no act is unimaginable.)
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