Posted on 01/18/2005 5:57:53 PM PST by wagglebee
All the South has ever desired was that the Union, as established by our Forefathers, should be preserved, and that the government, as originally organized, should be administered in purity and truth.
--Robert E. Lee
Why do Americans continue to remember their past?
Perhaps it is because it was a time when truth was spoken. Men and women took their stand to give us the freedoms we now enjoy. God bless those in military service, who do their duty around the world for freedom.
The Hall of Fame for great Americans opened in 1900 in New York City. One thousand names were submitted, but only 29 received a majority vote from the electors. General Robert E. Lee, 30 years after his death, was among those honored. A bust of Lee was given to New York University by the United Daughters of the Confederacy.
Let America not forget January 19, 2005, the 198th birthday of General Robert E. Lee.
Robert E. Lee was born at Stratford House, Westmoreland County, Virginia, on January 19, 1807. The winter was cold and fireplaces were little help. Robert's mother, Ann Hill (Carter) Lee, was suffering from a severe cold.
Ann Lee named her son Robert Edward after her two brothers.
Robert E. Lee undoubtedly acquired his love of country from those who had lived during the American Revolution. His father, "Light Horse" Harry, was a hero of the revolution and served as governor of Virginia and as a member of the U.S. House of Representatives. Members of his family also signed the Declaration of Independence.
Lee was educated in the schools of Alexandria, Virginia. In 1825, he received an appointment to West Point Military Academy. He graduated in 1829, second in his class and without a single demerit.
Robert E. Lee wed Mary Anna Randolph Custis in June 1831, two years after his graduation from West Point. Robert and Mary had grown up together. Mary was the daughter of George Washington Parke Custis, the grandson of Martha Washington and the adopted son of George Washington.
Mary was an only child; therefore, she inherited Arlington House, across the Potomac from Washington, where she and Robert raised seven children.
Army promotions were slow. In 1836, Lee was appointed to first lieutenant. In 1838, with the rank of captain, Lee fought valiantly in the War with Mexico and was wounded at the Battle of Chapultepec.
He was appointed superintendent of West Point in 1852 and is considered one of the best superintendents in that institution's history.
President-to-be Abraham Lincoln offered command of the Union Army to Lee in 1861, but Lee refused. He would not raise arms against his native state.
War was in the air. The country was in turmoil of separation. Lee wrestled with his soul. He had served in the United States Army for over 30 years.
After an all-night battle, much of that time on his knees in prayer, Robert Edward Lee reached his decision. He reluctantly resigned his commission and headed home to Virginia.
Arlington House would be occupied by the Federals, who would turn the estate into a war cemetery. Today it is one of our country's most cherished memorials, Arlington National Cemetery.
President John F. Kennedy visited Arlington shortly before he was assassinated in 1963 and said he wanted to be buried there. And he is, in front of Robert E. Lee's home.
Lee served as adviser to Confederate President Jefferson Davis and then commanded the legendary Army of Northern Virginia. The exploits of Lee's army fill thousands of books today.
After four terrible years of death and destruction, General Robert E. Lee met General Ulysses S. Grant at Appomattox, Virginia, and ended their battles. He told his disheartened comrades, "Go home and be good Americans."
Lee was called Marse Robert, Uncle Robert and Marble Man. He was loved by the people of the South and adopted by the folks from the North.
Robert E. Lee was a man of honor, proud of his name and heritage. After the War Between the States, he was offered $50,000 for the use of his name. His reply was "Sirs, my name is the heritage of my parents. It is all I have and it is not for sale."
In the fall of 1865, Lee was offered and accepted the presidency of troubled Washington College in Lexington, Virginia. The school was renamed Washington and Lee in his honor.
Robert E. Lee died of a heart attack at 9:30 on the morning of October 12, 1870, at Washington-Lee College. His last words were "Strike the tent." He was 63 years of age.
He is buried in a chapel on the school grounds with his family and near his favorite horse, Traveller.
A prolific letter writer, Lee wrote his most famous quote to son Custis in 1852: "Duty is the sublimest word in our language."
On this 198th anniversary let us ponder the words he wrote to Annette Carter in 1868: "I grieve for posterity, for American principles and American liberty."
Winston Churchill called Lee "one of the noblest Americans who ever lived." Lee's life was one of service and self-sacrifice. His motto was "Duty, Honor, Country."
God Bless America!
WSlavery was a dead issue and ABRAHAM LINCOLN campaigned for slavery every single time he was elected!!!!!!
Slavery was OUT .... the issue was more spin...just like the Dimmercrats you obviously worship...you are definitely a carpetbagger and a stupid and uneducated one at that
Your seeping attitude is rude...and I doubt if you have ever done a damned thimng to defend the Union which you cannot even define...the Confederacy was an attempt to defend the Union as it was mandated in the Constitution
Snide bastxxd
A POST FROM ANOTHER FORUM FOR MR.GREGGINN
Here is your espoused legacy....
To: WaterDragon
I worked on MLK Day. I will never celebrate it. Lee - Jackson Day warrants a moment of reverent remembrance.
"During MLK's reign. I watched the imported black hooligans from "up north" invade southern towns in squadrons of ( to us) luxury buses. I watched them take peaceful local negro populations to a mad frenzy with their African-style dances and chanting. I watched the ordered and demanded mass destruction of homes and businesses that followed. I saw a woman and her unborn baby murdered as the black swarm took her white Fiat on Union and Main Street, turned it over with her in it and smashed it upside down over and over and then swarmed on to do more destruction. I watched cowardly and confused "City Fathers" let the rampaging and destruction go on for three days spreading for tens of blocks of destruction in every direction. Gunfire rang from the black imports constantly. Whites in cars were shot at. White homes were shot into. Several whites in their homes or cars were wounded. This was never reported.I listened as the "City Fathers" crooned how enlightened we were because we would do nothing and let the blacks riot as long as they wanted to. I listened to the calls to do nothing because the outside busloads of thugs would leave soon and "we just love our peaceful black citizens". They didn't leave and our peaceful citizens just became more violent and murderous.
On the fourth day, Atticus-type calm middle class, peace-loving white people stepped onto the treacherous , empty of cops, streets, starting openly with Main Street this time openly armed with long guns on their shoulder as the 2nd Amendment expressly mandates for riotous situations like this when unchecked by feckless and cowering local government "leaders".
On the sixth day the governor sent in hand-picked riot troops from the State Troopers and National Guard and began the month-long process of putting down the riot and murder and rampant terror and destruction. To this day, this city cowers to every black and leftist whim and has a predictable very low rated "touchy feely" education system and a low level of real medical expertise and a low level of growth, cultural development and job creation. A sister city in North Carolina, was smaller than this city in my lifetime and is now six times as large and vibrant. This city just refused a world class museum as the Last Capitol of the Confederacy. This city is Danville , Virginia.
I watched CBS ( yes your damned beloved Walter Cronkeit ), NBC and ABC show only the arrests of blacks and the water hoses to control the black swarm. Only this was reported and as usual it was NOT the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth. It was as usual a skewed leftist diatribe.
I left that southern city as soon as I could and never returned; not because of what was done to blacks but because of the gutless reaction of the carpetbagger city fathers that persists to this day. To this day the murder and mayhem is NOT acknowledged , just as the opportunism and lechery and corruption of MLK is not acknowledged. I no more honor this man than I do the pandering Lincoln. Many years, three children, four degrees and a successful career and this schema is stronger than ever.
I did not hear about this; or read about it; or hear someone else tell it. I went with my friends every day and sat on the hillside next to the City Farmers Market and watched the hooligans stream out of their Detroit and New York buses and the murder and looting and wanton destruction that followed. I will also never forget formerly friendly black acquaintances in a stupor of violence and maniacal glee.I imagine the Hutus and Tutsis experienced the same scene when 800,000 were murdered by their relatives and acquaintances. Maybe race does matter.
60 posted on 01/19/2005 4:27:53 AM PST
Nope. Not gonna. It interests a lot of us; get used to it.
THAT is what these people can't see. Well put.
The South was the most highly educated part of the United States before the War of Northern Aggression. The "dumb cracker" motif was because the damned Yankees burned the Libraries and Courthouses by standing order and stole all the land and property from the women and children who were still alive. The kids slaved at 9 years old in the mills created by carpetbaggers just to survive. The Yankee occupiers installed black, green velvet dressed stooges who occupied the Governors mansions, while the South was used for cheap white labor under an occupying force, military then economic and Northern influx; while all profits were funnelled North for the next hundred years leaving the South destitute. Not a single man over 10 in my entire family survived the War. Their considerable property was then given to stooges and carpetbaggers.... enough ... someday the truth will out
Or: "pay no attention to the man behind the curtain". The WBTS was about freedom, period. That the neo-revisionist would have it be about slavery alone is hubris. They are claiming it was about freedom for blacks. "The North have no more against slavery than the South have". Charles Dickens. These United States became an industrial power on the back of cheap labor and at the price of freedom. The contract that the government had with the people had failed by 1860 and the South knew it. Some still don't. It is such a shame.
get an education...learn to read instead of parroting your puppetmasters
" I agree with what Lincoln stood for"
what??? gay rights, lying,whoring and pandering???
How is Robert E. Lee a "great American" when he engaged in treasonous rebellion against the U.S. government.
don-o said:
Answer this, then I will answer you.
How are George Washington, Patrick Henry, Thomas Jefferson, etc..., great Americans when they "engaged in treasonous rebellion" against the British Crown?
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Well...
Anyone got something on that??
One of Lincoln's "standings" was that the Union should be preserved and if slavery would do it he was all for it. Are you in favor?
What got me was his argument that because Lincoln was a Republican that he was on the right side. I still cannot imagine anyone trying to equate the politics of the 1860's to the politics of today, particularly as it relates to party affiliation. Here in Maryland, members of the local government were jailed if they were perceived to sympathize with the South. That is very un-Republican if you ask me! Republicans of today (most of them) believe in reducing the power and influence of the Federal government in our lives and pushing many issues to the state and local powers... something the sons of the South fought for. If he is really a Republican, he has more in common with the South than he wants to admit. He just might be one of those who was brainwashed by a college professor and cannot escape the PC grip. Who knows?
He's a lurker
You just told some truth.
Thank you.
Let Me Say It S-L-O-W-L-Y...
The Constitution puts limits on the federal government, to provide protection for the people and the states.
If you read the Constitution it says that the writ of habeas corpus will not be suspended unless invasion or rebellion requires it. It does not say who may or may not suspend it...
I'm not a Constitutional Law professor. I am not a lawyer. I am a citizen. And any citizen should have at least this basic understanding...so I am wondering if you're trolling here or intentionally blowing smoke. But since I don't have enough time to call all the bluffs you've made, let me illustrate this one...
Note the way each of the first three articles of the Constitution start:
Where does the line about habeus corpus fall? Gee...it's Article I...where things pertaining to the Legislative Branch are listed.
...and the Supreme Court has never ruled on who may not suspend it.
Obviously, because it's quite clearly listed with the Congressional powers (Article I), there's no need to "rule" on it. If you misled intentionally, that's a rather sneaky debate technique, throwing in a dash of argumentum ad ignorantiam, too. p> Lincoln's actions have never been shown to be unconstitutional.
See above, both in this message, and in others.
What? Not true.
I must admit Greg has a nice sense of humor....that goes a right fur piece (-;
Makes me ALMOST want to retract the carpetbagger label.....naahhhhh
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