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Catholic Bishop Kidnapped in Mosul! (Per WMAL in DC)
WMAL | 1/17/2005 | Pyro7480

Posted on 01/17/2005 10:33:57 AM PST by Pyro7480

During the bottom-of-the-hour news break, it was announced that a Catholic bishop was kidnapped in Mosul.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bishop; catholic; chaldean; iraq; islam; koranimals; mosul; muslim; pope; religionofpeace; religionofpieces; terrorism; trop; vatican; waronterror; wot
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To: Lazamataz
No sh*t. Hit all the mosques, you might not have to hit anything else.
101 posted on 01/17/2005 1:24:27 PM PST by thoughtomator (Meet the new Abbas, same as the old Abbas)
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To: livius
What does the rite of the Bishop have to do with it? You can see from my post THAT I AM CONCERNED fo rthis Catholic Bishop and all the Iraqi Chrstians (as well as for Iraqi secularists).

What's up with bearing all this false witness against me? Also false, is your scenario of a Saddam gunning for Christians - never in all the bloody reign of Saddam did he carry out pogroms against Christians (or Iraqi Jews for that matter) to satisfy the Muslim blood lust. Saddam's only documented religous pogroms were against Islamics against his secular Ba'athist state. PERIOD.

But again you don't have a problem with the false witness part again.

102 posted on 01/17/2005 1:28:06 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Pyro7480
Seeing what these evil creeps have done to other good people I have great fear for the bishop. I will pray that he will escape a horrible fate.
103 posted on 01/17/2005 1:32:38 PM PST by k omalley (Caro Enim Mea, Vere est Cibus, et Sanguis Meus, Vere est Potus)
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To: leadpenny

Oh Geez .. this doesn't sound good

Many prayers being sent


104 posted on 01/17/2005 1:35:54 PM PST by Mo1 (Does the distinguished Sen from VT wish to act as our treaty rep. for negotiations with Al Queda?)
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To: Logic n' Reason

The New Crusade will whup yo' heathen ass!


105 posted on 01/17/2005 1:46:07 PM PST by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: Logic n' Reason

I know many people from my church that have gone and can home.


106 posted on 01/17/2005 1:47:07 PM PST by bmwcyle (Washington DC RINO Hunting Guide)
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To: Destro

I didn't say he WAS, I said he would, if it had benefited him. He kept a lid on Muslim extremists because he knew they were out to get him, but towards the end of his reign, he was definitely beginning to see the benefits of a closer relationship with Muslim extremism in the ME.

I'm not "bearing false witness" against you. I simply found your posts very negative, and I have noticed in many of your other posts on the Balkans that you tend to be quite negative towards Catholics.

I also have disputes with the Church - I don't think it does enough to defend Catholics against Muslim attacks, mostly because of the left-wing sympathies of many in the European and American heirarchy.


107 posted on 01/17/2005 1:48:56 PM PST by livius
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To: Destro
They're not under Bush.
108 posted on 01/17/2005 1:57:01 PM PST by firebrand
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To: Palladin

Yow-za!


109 posted on 01/17/2005 1:59:34 PM PST by Logic n' Reason (Don't piss down my back and tell me it's rainin')
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To: Destro

Keep rewriting history Destro. You need to in order to fuel all that hatred of all things Roman.


110 posted on 01/17/2005 2:03:55 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: livius
My main dispute with our approach is that we, like Rome, never insist on protection of Christians, because we are afraid it will look like favoritism. My question is, what's wrong with that? Christians are not the ones causing problems in those countries, and we should reward them, rather than abandon them.

The following quote was written over 75 years ago, but is probably more true today than when it was written:

"These are the days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed except his own." --G.K. Chesterton

111 posted on 01/17/2005 2:19:18 PM PST by texasbluebell
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To: rogator; NYer

Since I live in the NY Tri-State area, I can't remember if I saw it on local news or on FoxNews. But it was the 16 year-old daughter who was brutalized the most and received the stab wound through the Coptic cross tatto on her arm.


112 posted on 01/17/2005 2:20:24 PM PST by LisaFab
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To: NYer; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...
Sadaam tolerated Christian Religion in Iraq.  This new regime taking over does not, say good bye to religious tolerance and freedom in Iraq. 

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113 posted on 01/17/2005 2:23:15 PM PST by Coleus (Abortion and Euthanasia, Don't Democrats just kill ya! Kill babies, Save the Bears!!)
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To: Coleus

Archbishop Basile Georges Casmoussa of Mosul, Iraq
114 posted on 01/17/2005 2:26:11 PM PST by NYer ("In good times we enjoy faith, in bad times we exercise faith." ... Mother Angelica)
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To: Destro
"They did not doe for being Christians - if you died under Saddam it was for being a Muslim militant and for anti-Saddam regime political intrigue."

Same thing as far as Saddam was concerned. He had a "thing" with pacifying diverse populations, all of which were not the Sunnis he favored in order to garner the continued patronage of the House of Saud. Not being a Sunni made you suspect of being anti-Saddam.

115 posted on 01/17/2005 2:30:21 PM PST by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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To: livius; Destro; MarMema; NYer; Pyro7480; Agrarian; kosta50
"The other problem is that the Church has not been very forthright in supporting Christians anywhere, and always kowtows to the Muslims. I doubt that anything is going to happen to change this, even if the unfortunate bishop appears in one of their gruesome videos."

Unfortunately, I think you're right. And it won't just be the Roman Church that does nothing. The West, including the US will do nothing. But this isn't anything new. In 1922,the Turks sacked the City of Smyrna. The Greek Orthodox Metropolitan there, +Chrysostomos was set upon by a mob of Turks. It was reported,"They (the Turks) uprooted his eyes and, while he was bleeding, dragged him by his beard through the streets of the Turkish quarter. He was beaten and kicked, and pieces of his skin cut off. All the while, Chrysostomos, his pace face covered with blood, had his face turned upwards, continuously praying "Holy Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do." Every now and then, when he had the strength to do so, he would raise his right hand and blessed his persecutors. A Turk realized what Chrysostomos was doing and got so furious that he cut off the Metropolitan's hand with his sword. Metropolitan Chrysostomos fell to the ground, and was hacked to pieces by the angry mob." All the while there was a fleet of Allied ships, including American, in the harbor watching and doing next to nothing.
116 posted on 01/17/2005 2:30:37 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Nuke the Cube!)
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To: Pyro7480; 2nd amendment mama; A2J; Agitate; Alouette; Annie03; aposiopetic; attagirl; axel f; ...

Prayer ping!


118 posted on 01/17/2005 2:33:24 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Women need abortion like a fish needs a bicycle.)
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To: Coleus
say good bye to religious tolerance and freedom in Iraq.

It often happens that a tyrant keeps warring factions at a distance from each other. But this kidnapping is yet more evidence that Saddam-supporting Sunnis would not be the most freedom-loving rulers of Iraq. It is all the more reason for us to vanquish the bad guys and let the good Iraqis rule.

119 posted on 01/17/2005 2:33:46 PM PST by firebrand
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To: Pyro7480
Catholic Archbishop Kidnapped in Iraq
 
Additional details here -- Gunmen Kidnap Catholic Archbishop in Iraq

120 posted on 01/17/2005 2:34:25 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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