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Newdow Lawsuit Awaits Ruling
Washington Times ^ | January 14, 2005 | Jon Ward

Posted on 01/14/2005 9:34:54 AM PST by Jay777

A federal judge is scheduled to rule today on a California atheist's lawsuit seeking to bar clergy-led prayer during President Bush's second inauguration next week. Judge John D. Bates yesterday heard oral arguments in the case during a two-hour hearing before a packed courtroom in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia. Michael Newdow, the 50-year old Sacramento, Calif., lawyer who filed the suit against President Bush last month, took part in the proceedings by telephone. Outside the courthouse, representatives of religious groups protested Mr. Newdow's suit. The Rev. Patrick Mahoney, executive director of the Christian Defense Coalition, and the Rev. Rob Schenck, president of the National Clergy Council, held a brief prayer service before the hearing. They also carried petitions with 22,000 signatures they have collected supporting prayer in the inauguration, saying they will present the documents to the court today. They also plan to give copies to the Presidential Inaugural Committee. Mr. Newdow pressed his claim that any prayers acknowledging a deity, Christian or otherwise, violate the establishment clause of the First Amendment, which states that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." "The government is coming out and saying, 'OK everybody, while you watch, we are a Christian nation,' " Mr. Newdow said. "It is a declaration to the nation and the world that we are a Christian nation." ...

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1 posted on 01/14/2005 9:34:54 AM PST by Jay777
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To: RepCath; Liz; IronJack; Grampa Dave; MeekOneGOP; Iris7; wkdaysoff; ApesForEvolution; EdReform; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 01/14/2005 9:35:33 AM PST by Jay777 (Never met a wise man, if so it's a woman. Kurt Cobain)
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To: Jay777
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3 posted on 01/14/2005 9:36:53 AM PST by Jay777 (Never met a wise man, if so it's a woman. Kurt Cobain)
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To: Jay777

He phoned in his lawsuit?


4 posted on 01/14/2005 9:37:09 AM PST by kenth (Tagline not fit for human consumption.)
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To: Jay777
Nutcase Newdow. sigh.

Prayer heavenward <>

5 posted on 01/14/2005 9:37:16 AM PST by mrs tiggywinkle
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To: Jay777

I dont understand how he can stop the President from his right as a citizen to expressing religion. It isn't as if it is a rule that the President have a bible to swear by, but it is his personal preference that one be there....


6 posted on 01/14/2005 9:37:49 AM PST by MikefromOhio (DO I need a new screen name? I am no longer in Iraq :) 18 to keep 8 to change so far)
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To: Jay777

If Newdow wins, just how does the court plan to stop Bush from using the Bible?


7 posted on 01/14/2005 9:38:04 AM PST by pabianice
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To: Jay777
Newdow was hired by a Christian group to make Atheists look bad, no one can be this much of a loser.
8 posted on 01/14/2005 9:38:59 AM PST by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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To: Jay777

Please take Newdow out to the wood shed and use some wood on him. He must have never had any used when he was young with an attitude like that.


9 posted on 01/14/2005 9:39:02 AM PST by handy old one (Never confuse the facts with the issues!!)
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To: Jay777; hchutch
Newdow Lawsuit Awaits Ruling

One hopes that the ruling is "BAILIFF, SLAP THE PLAINTIFF'S PEE-PEE!"

10 posted on 01/14/2005 9:39:02 AM PST by Poohbah (God must love fools. He makes so many of them...)
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To: MikeinIraq
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof

So now unelected judges are given the right to prevent people from exercising their liberty to state their religious beliefs?

11 posted on 01/14/2005 9:41:05 AM PST by John Thornton ("Appeasers always hope that the crocodile will eat them last." Winston Churchill)
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To: Jay777

How the He!! does this nut get his case moved to the head of the class?


12 posted on 01/14/2005 9:42:08 AM PST by N. Theknow (Twang your magic twangy Froggie! Hiyakids hiya hiya hiya! I'llbegood I'llbegood I'llbegood!)
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To: kenth

He sure did phone it in. What a joker.


13 posted on 01/14/2005 9:42:19 AM PST by Jay777 (Never met a wise man, if so it's a woman. Kurt Cobain)
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To: MikeinIraq
I dont understand how he can stop the President from his right as a citizen to expressing religion.

He can't. He is a publicity hound; the next Madeline Murray O'Hare. He intends, I believe, to support himself through donations of those who agree with this idiocy.

14 posted on 01/14/2005 9:43:08 AM PST by Bahbah
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To: John Thornton
Actually, I think the more important part of that line is this... at least to this case.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...

Where in this has Congress made a law in regards to anything? Should be summarily tossed out with extreme prejudice.

15 posted on 01/14/2005 9:44:52 AM PST by DaisyCutter
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To: pabianice
If Newdow wins, just how does the court plan to stop Bush from using the Bible?

I would bet money that Newdow never complained about Clinton carrying around the world's largest Bible as he went back to the White House to receive Monica's favors. The difference? He knew that Clinton's Bible still had the shrink wrap on it.

16 posted on 01/14/2005 9:45:01 AM PST by John Thornton ("Appeasers always hope that the crocodile will eat them last." Winston Churchill)
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To: Jay777

There doesn't have to be a ruling. The court could throw out the suit as being frivolous. We don't have to patronize every agenda-driven nut that wants to sue.


17 posted on 01/14/2005 9:46:22 AM PST by Big Digger (I)
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To: DaisyCutter
Forgot to add...

And then the judge should order him to pay all fees for the opposing side, and to pay the costs of operating the court to hear this frivolous case.

18 posted on 01/14/2005 9:46:31 AM PST by DaisyCutter
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To: John Thornton

technically yes, but just think of the furor if they were to rule against the President on this one....

There really isnt a way to change this except by term limits for judges.


20 posted on 01/14/2005 9:49:27 AM PST by MikefromOhio (DO I need a new screen name? I am no longer in Iraq :) 18 to keep 8 to change so far)
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