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Minnesotans Against Smoking Bans ^ | 1-8-05 | Robert Hayes Halfpenny

Posted on 01/08/2005 9:20:21 AM PST by SheLion

I am surprised Salt Lake City Mayor Rocky Anderson didn’t refer to the smokers as swine in a pig sty. Isn’t that, after all one of the one of the first images that comes to mind when think of a pen?  Before I am offended by “da mayor” I would have to be offended by the reference to the term smoking pens. In a city and state  that was founded by a group of people so seriously reviled for their own beliefs in years past, you would think they would be among the first to take a “live and let live” attitude about the behavior and choices of others. Clearly the past lessons learned about intolerance by the Mormons must now have been forgotten.

Only 88 airports nationwide is hardly a mandate to make one’s own airport smoke free. Furthermore if these “smoking kiosks” are eliminated it will only cause people to find other places to smoke. Delta Airlines is correct in standing behind the rights of the smokers.  Perhaps they have taken note that incidence of “air rage” only became prevalent AFTER smoking was banned on aircraft. It should also be noted that since the ban, they no longer use fresh air to ventilate the planes; instead, they just run the air through a filtrations system which in an enclosed environment further exacerbates the problem.

Mayor Anderson’s pompous arrogance in stating that the ban will help smokers to “break the habit” is outrageous. It is not his job to be neither a social engineer nor the arbiter of personal choices. I do know however, that as long as Salt Lake City and Utah continue down this Draconian path of heavy handed intolerance, I will avoid their state in very way possible. I will not travel to it, I will not travel thru it, and I will not support my company scheduling a convention there.

BANS ARE BAD! Read it again, BANS ARE BAD! Banning blacks from white facilities---BAD! Banning books---BAD! Banning Beer---Bad! If the people of Utah agree that these bans are bad, then they must also agree that banning smoking is also BAD! I would certainly hope at this juncture they are starting to realize that any action, that would favor a smoking ban of any type, will only create far more harm than good. IN all fairness I should note their may be one kind of good ban. That of course would be banning Mayor Anderson from further political office at the next election.   


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: Minnesota; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: addiction; addicts; antismokers; bans; butts; cigarettes; fda; individualliberty; lawmakers; maine; niconazis; professional; prohibitionists; propaganda; pufflist; regulation; rinos; rockyanderson; senate; slc; smoking; taxes; tobacco
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To: Gabz; SheLion

The state tax on a carton in Mass is $15.10 and they put a 5% sales tax on that----another $.75---making the tax added to a carton $15.85----who the hell would be idiot enough to pay that?

I still can't fine out how you can legally tax a tax.

Roll em yourself or buy off of the internet.


601 posted on 01/09/2005 11:16:54 AM PST by Mears
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To: Annie03

As a matter of fact I drink it black and unsweetened even though I love sweets----just not sweet coffee.


602 posted on 01/09/2005 11:18:44 AM PST by Mears
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To: Mears
The problem is that when someone pushes you to quit and demonises you for being a smoker it turns you into an "in your face" smoker" IMHO.

That's my take on it, too.

603 posted on 01/09/2005 11:18:46 AM PST by exnavychick (There's too much youth; how about a fountain of smart.)
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To: exnavychick

The GUAM? She was ported right across from my ship on pier 14 for MONTHS!

**I still have my Marlinspike -VERY useful tool (nothing dirty intended in that statement, honest)**


604 posted on 01/09/2005 11:19:50 AM PST by RandallFlagg (FReepers, Do NOT let the voter fraud stories die!!!! (Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name))
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To: RandallFlagg

LOL...I'll not go there, then, even though the sailor inside me is still laughing like a loon at the possible bad things I could say. :)


605 posted on 01/09/2005 11:21:04 AM PST by exnavychick (There's too much youth; how about a fountain of smart.)
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To: Gabz

LOL....from a fellow smoker and "Jezebel". I do homeschool, but I am not sanctimonious about it. It's not for everyone, and homeschoolers having that holier than thou attitude are as bad as the people who put them down for their choice to homeschool.


606 posted on 01/09/2005 11:21:53 AM PST by Annie03
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To: Mears

I take mine the same way. And my kids are usually deprived of sweets in the house because I like them too much :)


607 posted on 01/09/2005 11:23:36 AM PST by Annie03
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To: Gabz

God,I forgot about the divorce thread. I was busy on that one too.

Bad divorcees,bad smokers,bad mothers,bad role models,bad housekeepers,bad grandmothers(in my case).

Good thing we aren't sensitive-----feisty is good!!!!


608 posted on 01/09/2005 11:24:21 AM PST by Mears
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To: Annie03

LOL!!! You've only got 2 out of 3 of the vices......I've got the whole ticket. The big difference between us and them is I applaud you for homeschooling and you do not fault me for using a public school system.


609 posted on 01/09/2005 11:26:31 AM PST by Gabz
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Folks, I think we gots a newbie troll on the next thread. Shall we?


610 posted on 01/09/2005 11:28:03 AM PST by RandallFlagg (FReepers, Do NOT let the voter fraud stories die!!!! (Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name))
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To: Mears

ROFL!!!!!!!!!!

It's been an interesting couple of days, that's for sure.

I did finally bow out of the divorce thread......I couldn't handle it any longer.

I can generally tolerate the holier-than-thouers, except on 3 issues........smoking, divorce, and public schools. they wish to call me defensive on those issues, so be it, I don't consider it defensive, I have first hand experience and legitimate facts, figures and information on each which all just so happen to disagree with their positions.


611 posted on 01/09/2005 11:36:58 AM PST by Gabz
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To: RandallFlagg

You're too funny!!!!!


612 posted on 01/09/2005 11:37:33 AM PST by Gabz
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To: WildTurkey
Why not address this to me directly?

It's irrelevant whether or not you posted a comment directly to me on a discussion forum, and you should know it.

Your incessant whining about the subject of my post would seem to indicate that there's only one unanswered question - sharpened stick or blunt?

613 posted on 01/09/2005 11:48:47 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: SheLion
My God, She!

Thank you for some of the funniest graphics on Free Republic.

(Oh, and for being SheLion.)

614 posted on 01/09/2005 11:51:48 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: Madame Dufarge
New smoking thread
615 posted on 01/09/2005 11:55:17 AM PST by RandallFlagg (FReepers, Do NOT let the voter fraud stories die!!!! (Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name))
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To: Mears

I think Laura Bush smokes too.


616 posted on 01/09/2005 11:57:53 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: Mears
Oh, I just remembered, Robert Bork is a smoker too.

I was watching him on C-Span a few years ago, he gave a speech to some group or other.

You know how the cameraman wanders around after the event sometimes. As soon as the question and answer was done, he sat down at a table and lit up a cigarette.

617 posted on 01/09/2005 12:00:00 PM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: RandallFlagg

I'm not sure I can handle another one this weekend.......LOL!!!!


618 posted on 01/09/2005 12:28:49 PM PST by Gabz
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To: RandallFlagg; Madame Dufarge; Gabz; Mears; SheLion
Well, I can see I can't leave y'all alone very long.

I've been driving in from the rig and this thread exploded!
Don't use all your hand grenades. We might need some later.

619 posted on 01/09/2005 1:14:48 PM PST by TexasCowboy (Texan by birth, citizen of Jesusland by the Grace of God)
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To: Hot Tabasco
I fully understand what you mean about the infiltration of the do-gooders.

The oilfield has always been one of the last bastions of independent thought, and even we are being chastised for smoking.
Last year I worked for a company for one day. We had a disagreement about whether or not I could smoke, and I told him to shove it up his....uh, posterior.

What I don't understand is how they got this much power?
I'm baffled!

620 posted on 01/09/2005 1:18:39 PM PST by TexasCowboy (Texan by birth, citizen of Jesusland by the Grace of God)
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