Posted on 01/08/2005 9:20:21 AM PST by SheLion
I am surprised Salt Lake City Mayor Rocky Anderson didn’t refer to the smokers as swine in a pig sty. Isn’t that, after all one of the one of the first images that comes to mind when think of a pen? Before I am offended by “da mayor” I would have to be offended by the reference to the term smoking pens. In a city and state that was founded by a group of people so seriously reviled for their own beliefs in years past, you would think they would be among the first to take a “live and let live” attitude about the behavior and choices of others. Clearly the past lessons learned about intolerance by the Mormons must now have been forgotten.
Only 88 airports nationwide is hardly a mandate to make one’s own airport smoke free. Furthermore if these “smoking kiosks” are eliminated it will only cause people to find other places to smoke. Delta Airlines is correct in standing behind the rights of the smokers. Perhaps they have taken note that incidence of “air rage” only became prevalent AFTER smoking was banned on aircraft. It should also be noted that since the ban, they no longer use fresh air to ventilate the planes; instead, they just run the air through a filtrations system which in an enclosed environment further exacerbates the problem.
Mayor Anderson’s pompous arrogance in stating that the ban will help smokers to “break the habit” is outrageous. It is not his job to be neither a social engineer nor the arbiter of personal choices. I do know however, that as long as Salt Lake City and Utah continue down this Draconian path of heavy handed intolerance, I will avoid their state in very way possible. I will not travel to it, I will not travel thru it, and I will not support my company scheduling a convention there.
BANS ARE BAD! Read it again, BANS ARE BAD! Banning blacks from white facilities---BAD! Banning books---BAD! Banning Beer---Bad! If the people of Utah agree that these bans are bad, then they must also agree that banning smoking is also BAD! I would certainly hope at this juncture they are starting to realize that any action, that would favor a smoking ban of any type, will only create far more harm than good. IN all fairness I should note their may be one kind of good ban. That of course would be banning Mayor Anderson from further political office at the next election.
You're welcome. Einstein also enjoyed cigars.
We are evolving into society which demands perfect people in a perfect world, all sponsored by a perfect government which will nurture their every need.
The final result of all of this, of course, is one person remaining who is the epitome of perfectness in his/her eyes.
The OSHA max for a 40 hour week is 5000 ppm.
Air levels for carbon dioxide that indicate that indoor air quality may be a problem have been established by the American Society of Heating, Refrigerating and Air-conditioning Engineers (ASHRAE). Above 1,000 ppm of carbon dioxide, ASHRAE recommends adjustment of the building’s ventilation system (ASHRAE, 1989).
Can you find a photograph of Einstein with a cigar?
I cannot live without cigars.
Which link? If you notice, I always give you my post number or something to refer to. I have no idea what you are referring to.
WAAHHHHHH! I can't smoke where I want to. WAAAHHHHH!
I saw that. Did you see the part where passenger comfort and decreased disease transmission in the enclosed space of a fully loaded 737 REQUIRES less than 1000ppm of CO2? Evidently not.
OSHA recommendations for building air quality are not adequate for enclosed airplanes, and the article plainly states that. You don't want to accept the truth, and refuse to believe that only your own information is valid. Try reading the entire article, and the conclusions CAREFULLY.
Until you do, post to somebody else. Maybe they'll fall for your viewpoints. I no long have any interest in them.
Uh how do they get to ZERO ppm when the natural atmosphere is more than 200 ppm? Those airlines are really good, eh?
You're pretending to be answering me from it, and you claim you don't know what link it is?
It's the one in my post 390.
Goodbye.
Show me where it is above 1000 ppm. Thank you.
Experimentally. Don't post to me anymore.
It's IN THE ARTICLE. Don't post to me anymore, for the second time.
Another misguided child.
I could take your hand and lead through the minefields of misconceptions about personal property rights and the ability of a business person to choose what is right for HIS business, but, frankly, I'm tired of messing with your kind.
I know you're not asking me but,yes,it happens all the time.
It makes them feel good to trash smokers----the old superiority thing,you know.
Thank you. I missed that post. I was quoting form my link in #46 which also discusses airline air quality.
Also in your article is that the high concentrations usually were for short flights and during ascent/descent on longer flights where the CO2 concentration was in the 500 to 800 ppm for most of the flight.
LOL---I have a picture of myself sitting at a bar at a New Year's Eve house party 6 weeks before I had my second child.
I have a cigarette in one hand and a Cutty on the rocks in my other hand.
That baby is now a 6"2" father of 2(and he's a non-smoker).
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