Posted on 01/01/2005 4:44:14 PM PST by sionnsar
Seattle's Precinct 1823 counted 343 ballots, which is 71 more ballots than the 272 voters who cast them. This is the single largest discrepancy between ballots and voters in all of King County. Nearly all of the discrepancy is due to "provisional ballots".
I earlier reported on the notorious Precinct 1823, where hundreds of voters are registered with a residence address of 500 4th Ave, the King County Administration Building, Some of these are homeless individuals, who are entitled by statute to register at government buildings. But other "residents" of the county office building are listed on the property tax rolls as owning homes elsewhere in King County, and therefore illegally registered. Dozens of other "residents" of 500 4th Ave voted absentee from overseas mailing addresses. Hundreds of other Precinct 1823 voters give as "permanent addresses" temporary homeless shelters. This is all questionable enough and an obvious potential source of vote fraud. But it gets worse.
As noted earlier (here and here), King County now reports a discrepancy of 3,539 more ballots counted than voters who voted. The manual recount precinct canvass combined with Wednesday's voter list reveals that there are 684 precincts with more voters than ballots and 725 other precincts with more ballots than voters, for something approaching 1,512 ballotless voters and 4,593 voterless ballots. [I'll go into more detail on this in a future post]. Precinct 1823 has the dubious distinction of being the precinct with the largest number of voterless ballots.
These are the numbers of the various kinds of ballots that were counted in Precinct 1823, according to the precinct canvasses of the three counts. The final line shows the number of voters who cast each type of ballots.
Count | Absentee | Polling Place |
"Add-on"/ |
Total | |
Initial Count |
|
173 | 60 | 111 | 344 |
Machine Recount | 174 | 60 | 111 | 345 | |
Manual Recount |
? | ? | ? | 343 | |
Voters | 168 | 59 | 45 | 272 |
In the manual recount, they commingled the various types of ballots so there's no way of knowing how exactly the 343 "final" ballots break down into Absentee, Polling Place and Provisional. What is clear is that there were about 66 more provisional ballots accepted from Precinct 1823 than there were voters identified as voting them. Countywide there are a net of over 500 more provisional ballots than provisional voters.
There may well be an explanation why the numbers of voters and ballots are still so far apart two months after the election -- especially in a precinct full of transients, unknowable overseas voters and illegal registrants. But the explanation will have to be a very good one. The canvassing board certified the vote count three times, with the countywide ballot total increasing every time without explanation. At none of these certifications did the canvassing board seem to care whether or not the number of voters reconciled with the number of ballots. This would seem to be willful ignorance, perhaps criminal negligence. If that is what happened, a number of "public servants" need to be fired, recalled and/or prosecuted.
King County Elections claims it will provide a final voter list by the end of next week. But at this point, none of us should trust them unless a team of observers is watching every step of the process.
I keep hearing that there is a provision where any citizen can challenge the election. What would happen if 1 or 2 hundred thousand put in a formal challenge aledging fraud in King County?
Yes, the latest poll shows that the voters of WA think that Rossi won the election and whats her face(hate to say her name) lost. Only 37 percent think Rossi lost. This shows that even the Dems think the Dems cheated on the count. I hope Rossi takes this to the wall ( or if you are into the God Father, to the matresses)
Come to think of it, it was the Democrats who tried to steal the 2000 Presidential election and we had to live through 4 years of relentless claim of conspiracy and illegitimacy.
Ping
I believe your chart has some problems with data in columns. You could correct it and post it as a comment, or ask the mods to redo it for you.
Man! This continues to get stinkier by the day!
Why do you people who care live in such a shit-hole? Move. Let the remainder run themselves aground. You can always go back and re-colonize at a cut rate.
"Why do you people who care live in such a shit-hole? Move."
That's certainly an intellegent remark. First, Washington is not a shithole, it's a beautiful state. I notice you have not disclosed where YOU live. Second, why should anyone have to pack up and leave just because someone else can't play by the rules. Running away like a coward is the answer, is it? You ought to be ashamed of yourself for even post such crap. What a maroon.
Click through to the source to get your tables "clean." Firefox (and actually all other browsers I've tried) fail to render the source page's source correctly.
We got our reasons. But what a great and notable day it is when a Texan suggests we turn tail and run. Guess we Washington mossbacks got the measure of Texans today.
I'd say Seattle is hopeless, not Washington.
Define "any citizen."
Can this include military voters stationed overseas? People who formerly lived in Washington State?
People who do not live in Washington State?
Citizens of the US?
Well, the Emerald City has gotten way too big for its britches, you must admit...........The days of the wooly Northwesterners are long gone. Even Boeing moved.
Which isn't to say it's not gorgeous. It is.
Not sure. That is why I asked the question. I have been hearing from the local news and here on FR that any citizen (I would assume a registered voter in WA state) can challenge the election.
Anyone know more?
Where's John Conyers when you need him? Instead of wasting his time "contesting" Ohio's results, he should be looking into the obvious irregularities in King County.
worth keeping
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