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AP: Historical Christian Site Said to Be Found [Jesus's First Miracle]
AP ^ | Dec. 21, 2004 | LAURIE COPANS

Posted on 12/21/2004 1:50:05 PM PST by West Coast Conservative

Among the roots of ancient olive trees, archaeologists have found pieces of large stone jars of the type the Gospel says Jesus used when he turned water into wine at a Jewish wedding in the Galilee village of Cana.

They believe these could have been the same kind of vessels the Bible says Jesus used in his first miracle, and that the site where they were found could be the location of biblical Cana. But Bible scholars caution it'll be hard to obtain conclusive proof — especially since experts disagree on exactly where Cana was located.

Christian theologians attach great significance to the water-to-wine miracle at Cana. The act was not only Jesus' first miracle, but it also came at a crucial point in the early days of his public ministry — when his reputation was growing, he had just selected his disciples and was under pressure to demonstrate his divinity.

The shards were found during a salvage dig in modern-day Cana, between Nazareth and Capernaum. Israeli archaeologist Yardena Alexander believes the Arab town was built near the ancient village. The jar pieces date to the Roman period, when Jesus traveled in the Galilee.

"All indications from the archaeological excavations suggest that the site of the wedding was (modern-day) Cana, the site that we have been investigating," said Alexander, as she cleaned the site of mud from winter rains.

However, American archaeologists excavating a rival site several miles to the north have also found pieces of stone jars from the time of Jesus, and believe they have found biblical Cana.

Another expert, archaeologist Shimon Gibson, cast doubt on the find at modern Cana, since such vessels are not rare and it would be impossible to link a particular set of vessels to the miracle.

"Just the existence of stone vessels is not enough to prove that this is a biblical site," and more excavations are needed, he said.

Based on the shards, Alexander believes the vessels found at her site were 12 to 16 inches in diameter — or large enough to be the same type of jars described in the Gospel of John.

Other evidence that might link the site to the biblical account includes the presence of a Jewish ritual bath at the house, which shows it was a Jewish community. Locally produced pottery was used at the simple house, showing it could have been from the poor village described in the Scriptures.

Stephen Pfann, a Bible scholar in Jerusalem, said that while the American dig has generally been accepted by scholars as the true site, the shards found in modern-day Cana raise new questions.

"I think there is ample evidence that both sites are from the first century, and we need more information to correctly identify either site," Pfann said.

Alexander has been digging in modern Cana since 1999.

The current find came in a last-ditch "salvage dig" before a house is built on the site. A Christian Arab family financed part of the excavation, in accordance with Israeli law, before construction can begin.

Alexander believes that with more substantial investment, the site could became a major tourist attraction and pilgrimage destination.

"We're really working very hard to save some of this site because what we do have here is a village of Jesus," she said. "And it was here that he carried out the first miracle."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Israel; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: archaeology; cana; christian; ggg; godgravesglyphs; godsgravesglyphs; history; israel; jesus
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1 posted on 12/21/2004 1:50:05 PM PST by West Coast Conservative
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To: West Coast Conservative
Alexander believes that with more substantial investment, the site could became a major tourist attraction and pilgrimage destination.

No kidding. The reinvention of the Holy Land as the Holy Land Experience will be a big draw for visiting "Judeo-Christians" primed for a shrink-wrapped religious theme park. All of their pre-approved bottons will be pushed.

2 posted on 12/21/2004 1:56:55 PM PST by Romulus (Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath?)
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To: Romulus

"...with more substantial investment, the site could became a major tourist attraction and pilgrimage destination."
It would become a pilgrimage destination if at least some of the shards could still transmute water into wine (even better if different shards produced different drinks: a martini shard, a "Manhattan" shard and so on). The resulting establishment would be immediately and hugely popular.


3 posted on 12/21/2004 2:02:02 PM PST by GSlob
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To: West Coast Conservative

Yeah, and George Washington slept there too. Or was it Elvis?

There is something vaguely wrong about dubious data being used to "phish" for tourists by playing to their desire to visit religious sites. If the provenance of the stone vessels were better authenticated, I'd be less likely to so skeptical.

But false relics was quite the business at one time, back in the Middle Ages as I remember. Maybe 'tis time for 'truth in tourism'?


4 posted on 12/21/2004 2:07:25 PM PST by GladesGuru
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To: West Coast Conservative
"Just the existence of stone vessels is not enough to prove that this is a biblical site,"

Quite obviously, I should imagine. Surely such jars were used by lots of people in those times.

What on earth is the fuss about here?

5 posted on 12/21/2004 2:09:58 PM PST by Da_Shrimp
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To: West Coast Conservative

Was there only one house that could host a party? Even if the sites mentioned is the real Cana, how on earth can we know that's the one where the miracle took place?


6 posted on 12/21/2004 2:26:53 PM PST by paudio (Four More Years..... Let's Use Them Wisely...)
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To: Da_Shrimp
Quite obviously, I should imagine.

I have found some of these jars in my basement and suspect that my home is the actual site. You are welcome to come look at them....$5 admission.
7 posted on 12/21/2004 2:28:56 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: Arkinsaw
You are welcome to come look at them....$5 admission.

LOL with the exchange rate at $1.92 to the pound at the moment, that's a real bargain!

8 posted on 12/21/2004 2:32:19 PM PST by Da_Shrimp
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To: West Coast Conservative; SunkenCiv; P-Marlowe; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; Corin Stormhands
They believe these could have been the same kind of vessels the Bible says Jesus used in his first miracle, i>

If that statement isn't a setup with which they will later belittle Christians, then it is silly.


9 posted on 12/21/2004 3:27:54 PM PST by xzins (The Party Spirit -- the major issue that keeps me from taking them seriously.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
However, American archaeologists excavating a rival site several miles to the north have also found pieces of stone jars from the time of Jesus, and believe they have found biblical Cana.

However, American archaeologi$t$ excavating a rival $ite $everal mile$ to the north have al$o found piece$ of $tone jar$ from the time of Je$u$, and believe they have found biblical Cana.

10 posted on 12/21/2004 5:27:41 PM PST by Thinkin' Gal
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To: GladesGuru

Elvis.

And how did you fare during the hurricane season? Haven't seen you around here much and thought I'd ask. What's the latest?


12 posted on 12/21/2004 8:00:07 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: SunkenCiv

Same topic, different article

GGG PING


13 posted on 12/21/2004 8:55:46 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: paudio

That's what I would like to know.


14 posted on 12/21/2004 10:46:36 PM PST by texasflower (Liberty can change habits. ~ President George W. Bush 10/08/04)
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To: West Coast Conservative; american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; ...

Israeli archaeologist Yardena Alexander stands in a dig in the northern Israeli Arab town of Cana on Dec. 20,2004. Alexander believes she has uncovered proof that modern-day Cana was the location of the biblical town of the same name, where Jesus performed his first miracle of turning water into wine.

Catholic Ping - please freepmail me if you want on/off this list


15 posted on 12/22/2004 6:18:18 AM PST by NYer ("Blessed be He who by His love has given life to all." - final prayer of St. Charbel)
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To: Kolokotronis; MarMema; Cronos; Destro; AAABEST

Israeli archaeologist Yardena Alexander holds a piece of an ancient stone vessel at a dig in Cana, an Arab town in northern Israel Monday Dec. 20, 2004. Such stone jars were used at the time of Jesus, and are mentioned in the Book of John in the New Testament, which describes Jesus's first miracle of turning water into wine.
16 posted on 12/22/2004 6:20:12 AM PST by NYer ("Blessed be He who by His love has given life to all." - final prayer of St. Charbel)
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To: NYer

Neat!


17 posted on 12/22/2004 7:11:41 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Nuke the Cube!)
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To: GSlob
...even better if different shards produced different drinks: a martini shard, a "Manhattan" shard and so on). The resulting establishment would be immediately and hugely popular.

At the top of their wine list will be a lovely Shard-O-Nay.

18 posted on 12/22/2004 7:30:56 AM PST by TigersEye (Free speech! It's not just for Democrats anymore!)
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To: xzins; blam; FairOpinion; Ernest_at_the_Beach; SunkenCiv; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; ...
Thanks xzins and FairO'. Similar article just added to GGG, but this one too.
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19 posted on 12/22/2004 10:21:08 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: paudio

The whole thing is absurd. Ther ewere probably thousands of places in Cana with those jars..Dunb article


20 posted on 12/22/2004 10:24:14 PM PST by hineybona
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