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Hillary's Poll Numbers Startling (Early 2008 Poll Numbers)
NewsMax ^ | 12/19/04

Posted on 12/19/2004 6:38:55 PM PST by nj26

If the 2008 election were held today, New York Sen. Hillary Clinton would handily defeat three of the top Republicans being touted as possible candidates, a startling new survey by Fox News Opinion Dynamics shows.

In a race between Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist and Clinton, the New York Democrat would win by 7 points, defeating Frist 40 percent to 33 percent, according to Fox Dynamics figures cited Sunday by Angus Reid Consultants.

Matched against New York Gov. George Pataki, Clinton's margin of victory drops by 1 point, but she'd still win 41 percent to 35 percent. The former first lady would even defeat Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, 46 percent to 35 percent.

Two of the most popular Republicans, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani and Arizona Sen. John McCain, were not included in the survey.

However, a Quinnipiac University survey released last week showed that Giuliani would defeat Clinton 45 percent to 43 percent if he were to run for her Senate seat in 2006.

The Fox Dynamics poll also showed that John Kerry would defeat Gov. Bush if Kerry were to run again in 2008, but by a smaller margin than Clinton - 45 percent to 37 percent.


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At this early point, name recognition means a lot. I can understand that a lot of Americans haven't heard of Pataki and Frist. But Jeb Bush?

And she hasn't even started moving to the right yet.

1 posted on 12/19/2004 6:38:55 PM PST by nj26
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To: nj26

Of course polls for 2008 in 2004 are still "polls for 2008 in 2004." But GOP candidates who try to blur distinctions with their "friend" Hillary will wind up far behind in the electoral vote. It is when GOP candidates try to make the distinctions clear and compelling that they have a "chance" to win. For some reason though, many of these GOP candidates cannot figure out such an elementary truth. Maybe Dr. Frist should go back into surgery and forget politics.


2 posted on 12/19/2004 6:41:26 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: nj26

Polls showed "generic Democrat" beating Bush earlier this year. It's way too early for polls in 2008.


3 posted on 12/19/2004 6:42:06 PM PST by West Coast Conservative
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To: nj26

And a turd sometimes floats


4 posted on 12/19/2004 6:43:03 PM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (NO PRISONERS!!)
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To: nj26

polls, smolls, ignorant a$$holes.


5 posted on 12/19/2004 6:44:10 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Theodore R.

"Of course polls for 2008 in 2004 are still polls for 2008 in 2004."

That's true. But she's already running stronger than John Kerry (as evidenced by match-up with Jeb Bush.)

Wait until she launches her anti-illegal alien platform. She gets on tv and starts talking about deportation, she'll be up another 5 points.

You are right. We need to run a strong, principled conservative to provide a contrast with this unprincipled, carpet-bagger opportunist. We can't "out-Hillary" Hillary with flip-flopping and bad morals.


6 posted on 12/19/2004 6:44:10 PM PST by nj26
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To: nj26

the country will not elect another Bush on the heels of Bush 43. no way. Jeb knows this, so he is smart to sit this one out. besides, if Hillary wins in 08, we will need Jeb for 2012 to try and stop her from a 2nd term.


7 posted on 12/19/2004 6:44:49 PM PST by oceanview
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To: nj26
Looks like Chillary has already started her "listening" tour.
8 posted on 12/19/2004 6:44:58 PM PST by stylin19a (Marines - filling up Iraq's Tomb of the Unknown Soldier)
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To: nj26

"Journalists" like "polls."

'Nuff said.


9 posted on 12/19/2004 6:46:26 PM PST by PoorMuttly ("The right of the People to be Muttly shall not be infringed,")
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To: nj26
FOXNEWS Opinion Dynamics polls are the absolute worst in the industry!

Why would anybody even care about 2008?

10 posted on 12/19/2004 6:48:07 PM PST by sinkspur ("How dare you presume to tell God what He cannot do" God Himself)
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To: nj26

Hillary could get run over by a truck tomorrow, who cares ?


11 posted on 12/19/2004 6:49:05 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: nj26

The Polls Are Always Right!

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History Proves It!


12 posted on 12/19/2004 6:50:10 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: nj26
The poll thingee is starting again.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1304827/posts
is another one using a generic Republican by Rasmussen. I just don't to get blindered just yet looking at new Republicans to replace Bush.
13 posted on 12/19/2004 6:50:23 PM PST by crazyhorse691 (We won. We don't need to be forgiving. Let the heads roll!!!!!!!!!)
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To: nj26

I have looked into the 2008 crystal ball and the winner is?????????

GEORGE ALLEN


14 posted on 12/19/2004 6:50:48 PM PST by JRochelle
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To: nj26
Hitlery's problem will be to get through the primaries, where the lefties hate her almost as much as we do, and they vow never to support a "centrist" democrat, or even one masquerading as one, again. It'll be a tight-rope walk to keep the moderate democrats from turning to the republicans if she panders too much to the left. LOL I love it when your opponent is unprincipled. It's so entertaining to see them sing and dance.
15 posted on 12/19/2004 6:51:37 PM PST by MNnice
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To: nj26
However, a Quinnipiac University survey released last week showed that Giuliani would defeat Clinton 45 percent to 43 percent if he were to run for her Senate seat in 2006.

for what this 'poll' is worth, this part I like best :-)
16 posted on 12/19/2004 6:51:47 PM PST by William of Orange (Does anybody know what time it is? Time to bomb Saddam!)
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To: Fiddlstix

Yeah, but Dewey was the Republican. Truman was the Democrat.


17 posted on 12/19/2004 6:52:10 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: TexKat

"polls, smolls, ignorant a$$holes."

I'm just shocked that she hits 46% in any national poll. I would think she would be hitting 35% or so with her hard-core supporters.


18 posted on 12/19/2004 6:52:19 PM PST by nj26
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"Wait until she launches her anti-illegal alien platform. She gets on tv and starts talking about deportation, she'll be up another 5 points. "

She's having to do that to counter Bill Richardson's lock on the Hispanic vote.

In the 2008 primaries all the professional political consultants will agree that the Democrats must recapture a larger percentage of the Hispanic vote in order to win the general election.

Hillary can never compete with Richardson in that area so she is attempting to create a backlash against Hispanics while winning favor with unions, blacks, and environmentalists who oppose immigration.

19 posted on 12/19/2004 6:53:51 PM PST by bayourod (Our troops are already securing our borders against terrorists. They're killing them in Iraq.)
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To: nj26

Yeah, yeah.

The majority of these polsters were soooo accurate predicting 2004, that we should trust them about a future event in '08? Ha ha. Right.


20 posted on 12/19/2004 6:53:51 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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