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Hobbits? We've got a cave full
Stuff ^ | 06 December 2004 | DEBORAH SMITH

Posted on 12/08/2004 3:25:23 PM PST by swilhelm73

Chief Epiradus Dhoi Lewa has a strange tale to tell. Sitting in his bamboo and wooden home at the foot of an active volcano on the remote Indonesian island of Flores, he recalls how people from his village were able to capture a tiny woman with long, pendulous breasts three weeks ago.

"They said she was very little and very pretty," he says, holding his hand at waist height. "Some people saw her very close up."

The villagers of Boawae believe the strange woman came down from a cave on the steaming mountain where short, hairy people they call Ebu Gogo lived long ago.

"Maybe some Ebu Gogo are still there," the 70-year-old chief told the Herald through an interpreter in Boawae last week.

The locals' descriptions of Ebu Gogo as about a metre tall, with pot bellies and long arms match the features of a new species of human "hobbits" whose bones were recently unearthed by Australian and Indonesian researchers in a different part of Flores in a cave known as Liang Bua.

The unexpected discovery of this tiny Homo floresiensis, who existed until at least 12,000 years ago at Liang Bua, before being apparently wiped out by a volcanic eruption, was hailed as one of the most important archaeological finds in decades when it was announced in October.

The chief adds that the mysterious little woman in Boawae somehow "escaped" her captors, and the local police said they knew nothing of her existence when he quizzed them.

The prospect that some hobbits still exist in pockets of thick, fertile jungle on Flores is extremely unlikely, says Douglas Hobbs, a member of the team that discovered Homo floresiensis. But it is possible they survived near Boawae until 300 or so years ago, when the chief's ancestors moved into the area, he says.

The detailed stories that the villagers tell about the legendary Ebu Gogo on the volcano have convinced the Australian and Indonesian team to search for bones of hobbits in this cave when they return to the rugged island next year, says Hobbs, an emeritus archaeologist with the University of New England, who discussed excavation plans with the chief last week.

Getting to the cave on the 2100-metre-high Ebulobo volcano, however, will be no simple matter for the team led by Professor Mike Morwood of UNE. The blood of a pig must first be spilt in this society where Catholic faith is melded with animist beliefs and ancestor worship.

The sacrifice and the feast will please the ancestors and bring many villagers together to talk about the cave, says the chief, whose picture of his grandfather, the king, in traditional head-dress, sits framed on the wall next to images of Jesus.

Grandfather of Chief Epiradus Dhoi Lewa of Boawae.

If the right rituals are followed, "then we will be able to find the road to the hole again", he says.

A Dutch palaeontologist, Dr Gert van den Bergh, a member of the team, was first shown the cave at a distance more than a decade ago, after hearing folk tales of the Ebu Gogo, which means "grandmother who eats everything".

People living around the volcano told him a consistent story of the hairy creatures that devoured whatever they could grasp in their long fingers. The villagers tolerated the stealing of food until the Ebu Gogo began to snatch babies and eat them too. They then set upon the little people, forcing them out of the cave with bales of burning grass.

Van den Bergh dismissed the tales as akin to those of leprechauns and elves, until the hobbit bones were found.

While the search for more bones is being planned, a political furore has broken out after a leading Indonesian palaeoanthropologist - with no connection to the find - last week "borrowed" all the delicate remains from six hobbits found at Liang Bua against the wishes of local and Australian team members.

Professor Teuku Jacob, of Gadjah Mada University, who has challenged the view that Homo floresiensis is a new species, had previously taken the skull and bones of the most complete specimen, a 30-year-old female hobbit, from the Indonesian Centre for Archaeology in Jakarta, where they had been kept.

Professor Morwood said it was wrong that the team who found the remains were unable to analyse them first. "It is not good for the Indonesian researchers nor their institution."

However, he said Professor Jacob had signed an agreement to return all the bones by January 1.


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: boawae; cryptozoology; ebugogo; ebulobo; flores; floresiensis; godsgravesglyphs; hobbit; homofloresiensis; liangbua; mikemorwood; multiregionalism
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1 posted on 12/08/2004 3:25:23 PM PST by swilhelm73
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To: swilhelm73

There have been stories of "brontosaurs" too. If something is still living, there must be fresh remains somewhere. Even droppings from predators should show something.


2 posted on 12/08/2004 3:31:46 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: swilhelm73
Homo floresiensis ("Man of Flores") is a newly described species in the genus Homo, remarkable for its small body, small brain, and recent survival, thought to have been contemporaneous with modern humans (Homo sapiens) on the remote Indonesian island of Flores. Seven skeletons and associated stone tools were discovered on Flores in 2003.

Flores has been described (in the journal Nature) as "a kind of Lost World", where archaic animals, elsewhere long extinct, had evolved into giant and dwarf forms through allopatric speciation. The island had dwarf elephants (a species of Stegodon, the recent ancestor of the Indian Elephant) and giant lizards akin to the Komodo dragon, as well as H. floresiensis, which can be considered a species of dwarf human. The discoverers have called members of the diminutive species hobbits, after J.R.R. Tolkien's fictional race of roughly the same height. In the island's mythology there were common references to Ebu Gogo a small furry man.

Wikipedia


3 posted on 12/08/2004 3:33:10 PM PST by bikepacker67 ("This is the best election night in history." -- DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe 11/2/04 8pm)
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To: HairOfTheDog

Hobbit ping...


4 posted on 12/08/2004 3:45:42 PM PST by green pastures
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To: swilhelm73

A live one was captured 3 weeks ago, so they probably survived until 30 year ago. Ain't science wunnerful!


5 posted on 12/08/2004 4:11:06 PM PST by Waco
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To: bikepacker67
>>A Dutch palaeontologist, Dr Gert van den Bergh, a member of the team, was first shown the cave at a distance more than a decade ago, after hearing folk tales of the Ebu Gogo, which means "grandmother who eats everything".

>In the island's mythology there were common references to Ebu Gogo a small furry man.

I won't make any comparisons between "small furry creatures with indistinguishable genders" and certain famous lefties.

6 posted on 12/08/2004 4:12:47 PM PST by Gondring (They can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold, dead hands!)
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To: swilhelm73
people from his village were able to capture a tiny woman with long, pendulous breasts three weeks ago

OMIGAWD, they captured Dr. Ruth Westheimer!

7 posted on 12/08/2004 4:13:16 PM PST by freebilly
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FYI
8 posted on 12/08/2004 4:15:52 PM PST by Fatalis
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To: Fatalis
I can say with certainty that Hobbit exists.....

He's right here!


9 posted on 12/08/2004 4:19:33 PM PST by Americanchild
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11 posted on 12/08/2004 4:26:09 PM PST by ecurbh () | () | ()
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12 posted on 12/08/2004 4:37:24 PM PST by America's Resolve (awarforeurabia.blogspot.com - Watching the war for Europe)
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To: swilhelm73
While the search for more bones is being planned, a political furore has broken out after a leading Indonesian palaeoanthropologist - with no connection to the find - last week "borrowed" all the delicate remains from six hobbits found at Liang Bua against the wishes of local and Australian team members.

"Confusticate and bebother these Indonesian palaeoanthropologists!" he said aloud.

13 posted on 12/08/2004 4:38:44 PM PST by Redcloak ("FOUR MORE BEERS! FOUR MORE BEERS! FOUR MORE BEERS!" -Teresa Heinz Kerry)
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To: Fatalis
"FYI"

Thanks for the ping. We covered this at length on previous threads.

14 posted on 12/08/2004 4:40:00 PM PST by blam
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To: swilhelm73

However, he said Professor Jacob had signed an agreement to return all the bones by January 1.


Some how I don't think so.


15 posted on 12/08/2004 4:44:01 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: swilhelm73

Let's see, the village people were full of it when they spoke of these people, but then they found remains.

Now those same villagers claim to have captured one for a time, but once again they are full of it.

Seems to me the scientists are the ones who are full of it. Ego that is.


16 posted on 12/08/2004 4:46:17 PM PST by sandbar
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To: swilhelm73
"Hobbits" are fictional beings created for a fantasy novel.

These people are pygmies.

17 posted on 12/08/2004 8:19:44 PM PST by Alouette ("Who is for the LORD, come with me!" -- Mattisyahu ben Yohanon, father of Judah Maccabee)
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To: swilhelm73

Jesus! But thanks!


18 posted on 12/08/2004 8:22:55 PM PST by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: FairOpinion

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