Posted on 12/02/2004 7:49:38 AM PST by esryle
Teen Says He Lost Virginity At 9
CLEVELAND -- Research shows 16 percent of girls and 20 percent of boys have engaged in sexual intercourse by the time they reach their 14th birthday. For some fourth- and fifth-graders, sex is the topic of school lunch room conversations almost daily.
In a special report, NewsChannel5's Deb Lee explored the troubling statistics.
Lee talked with a 15-year-old Cleveland-area girl who is enrolled at the Pepper Pike Alcohol Treatment Center for kids about her experiences with alcohol and sex.
The teen said kids are having sex as young as 11 and 12 years old. She added that it happens at house parties in Cleveland and surrounding suburbs, where the liquor flows so freely and girls sometimes black out.
“I know at least six or seven girls that are my good friends that got raped the first time they ever had sex,” she said. “That's how they lost their virginity by getting raped at a party while they were under the influence.”
Another teen, who will be called Jay, also knows about the parties. He's also from the Cleveland area and was a resident at the treatment center. Jay, who is 18 now, said he had sex at an early age, too.
"I lost my virginity when I was 9 years old," he said. "Most of the time, it's us boys pressuring the girls to do this, do that. But sometimes it's not all our fault. Sometimes girls be dressing all trashy... you see them out in the street with their little short skirts and tank tops and stuff."
Another teen says TV glorifies sex.
"They're all drinking and getting drunk and everything and the rappers are talking about doing drugs and having sex with people and all that," a teen said.
Dr. Slyvia Rimm, an area expert on child psychology, has interviewed hundreds of children around the country for a book on habits of middle schoolers.
Lee said she discovered that second-, third- and fourth-graders are talking about sex.
"The oral sex, even a generation ago, wasn't common in high school and now is common as early as 8th grade and even common in high school and taken lightly, I'm sorry to say, in our former president's words," Rimm said.
Lee reported that former President Bill Clinton’s statement: “I did not have sex with that woman... Miss Lewinsky," -- has had an impact.
She said teens do not think oral sex counts as sex.
"I think there can be real psychological harm when kids are that young” Rimm said.
Many teens are choosing abstinence and sobriety. In fact, the 15-year-old in the story sought help through treatment and is now beginning a new life, in a new community, at a new school.
"I'm not going to have the peer pressure, and I'm gonna be able to do what I need to do to help myself," she said.
Human nature = "Ignorance is bliss" If someone does not feel degraded, their self-esteem is okay.
That's a joke right ?
Of course, but at the same time, they are still 14 year olds. A lot of people forget the past and think that every generation is worse than the previous one. My mom found some letters written between my grandmother and grandfather right before they got married. They were not nearly as innocent as people on here would believe.
Human nature = able to fool myself for a long time, until the crud finally hits the fan.
It's about a lot more than "feelings" and "self-esteem". If you reduce it to that, you're the one who's self-deluded.
And I have no idea what kind of "conservative" denies that an act can be objectively degrading in and of itself, regardless of how the parties think they "feel" about it.
I've turned down more than one promotion because it would have kept me away from my family too much. We can adjust our budget to do fine without the extra income but I don't think the kids would do nearly as well without both parents being around.
Deserves to be repeated.
Sometimes girls will wear something that they can then remove later, i.e. an overshirt of some sort over a barely there camisole top. When they leave the house, they toss the more modest dress for the slut puppy look. The only way to avoid this is to go with the girls when they shop for clothes and let them know what's acceptable, and what's not. It doesn't help that almost everything marketed to pre-teens and teens these days is 'ho' fashion.
Well, not everyone considers oral sex degrading. I'm saying if a person enjoys engaging in that activity and does not feel degraded by it, it is not degrading to them.
I disagree. However, my point was more that promiscuity -- sex without love or commitment -- is profoundly degrading whether the participants think it is or not.
Personally, I agree. However, most people would not. Promiscuity without shame is nothing new.
The "villages" raising our kids see nothing wrong with gay marriage. Our former "president" set a shining example that oral sex isn't really sex...
These are issues that sadly became too open for kids today.
I'm a single parent, but a parent first! My sons complain that I'm too controlling, too, too... BUT
Last week, my 14 year old said "Mom, at least you care."
Sounds like the liberal agenda is working!
I don't know that I agree with your "most people". Certainly not in my experience, but I try to choose my friends carefully.
However, truth is not determined by majority vote, and the objectively degrading and evil acts people do catch up with them eventually. God is not mocked.
The other defense as the mom of sons has been to talk candidly to them and refuse to condone something that isn't acceptable.
"What do you think Grama would say?"
Pronunciation: 'sä-d&-mE
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Old French sodomie, from Late Latin Sodoma Sodom; from the homosexual proclivities of the men of the city in Gen 19:1-11
1 : copulation with a member of the same sex or with an animal
2 : noncoital and especially anal or oral copulation with a member of the opposite sex
"Oral Sex = SODOMY! One step BEYOND intercourse and into perversion. Clinton = Pervert."
Oh, my. You're accusing most adult heterosexual people of sodomy, I guess. Oral sex is not sodomy. It's never even mentioned in the Bible. Couples do it all the time.
That said, kids should not be having any kind of sex. They do, but they shouldn't.
See post 137. You're arguing with the dictionary.
"where do they get there education"
Uffda!
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