And the Teachers Union supports which political party again?
Posted on 11/28/2004 12:21:56 AM PST by JohnHuang2
Sunday, November 28, 2004
If administrators of Kentucky's Boyd County school district can't find a way to force all students to attend sexual orientation and gender identity "tolerance training," the American Civil Liberties Union is threatening to take them to court – again.
Ten months ago, the district settled a lawsuit with the ACLU over the right of a student group, the Gay-Straight Alliance, to meet on campus. The year-long litigation strained relations in the conservative northeast portion of the state. In addition to allowing the group to meet on campus after school, district officials agreed that all students, staff and teachers would be required to receive "tolerance training."
The agreement stipulated all would attend "mandatory anti-harassment workshops," including the viewing of an hour-long "training" video covering sexual orientation and gender identity issues for middle and high school students.
But ten months on, one-third of Boyd County students have failed to see the video, and that has the ACLU threatening court action.
"It sounds like the training can't possibly be done," James Esseks, litigation director for the ACLU's Lesbian and Gay Rights Project, tells the Louisville Courier-Journal.
District figures show 105 of 730 middle school students opted out of the training video and 145 of 971 high school students did likewise. On the day scheduled for training, 324 students didn't show up for school.
The current legal snag arises from the fact the original consent decree had no provision for parents exempting their children.
"The schools have great latitude in what they want to teach, including what's in training programs, and the training is now part of the school curriculum," Esseks says. "Parents don't get to say I don't want you to teach evolution or this, that or whatever else. If parents don't like it they can homeschool, they can go to a private school, they can go to a religious school."
"Where are the parental rights in this whole thing?" asks Rev. Tim York, president of the Boyd County Ministerial Alliance and head of Defenders Voice, a community group formed to contest the decree.
According to the group's website, Defenders Voice "incorporated due to the need for protection of both the physical and mental health of our students and citizens." Its members place blame for their current distress squarely on the ACLU:
"We have seen an onslaught of aggressive homosexual activism sweep across our country. In many cases, these activists are supported by the ACLU in their attempts. ... Defenders Voice believes that an organization like the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) should not be allowed to tell parents what their children must learn."
The Alliance Defense Fund, a religious-liberties public-interest legal group, has signed on to help Defenders Voice, pledging to sue the school district unless it adopts an opt-out policy for parents this week. Alliance was formed in 1993 with the guidance of several well-known Christian conservatives, including the late Dr. Bill Bright, the late Larry Burkett, Dr. James Dobson, Dr. D. James Kennedy, and the late Marlin Maddoux.
Joe Platt, a Cincinnati attorney representing Alliance, says mandatory training on tolerance for homosexuals violates the right of conscience of parents and students who believe such behavior immoral.
But school district attorney, Winter Huff, insists to the Courier-Journal the decree does not violate parental rights: "Students certainly have the right to believe in what they want to believe, but they don't have the right to act out in inappropriate ways. The point is you don't treat people disrespectfully, you don't pick on people, you don't bully them, you don't make them afraid to come to school."
Meanwhile, only one of the seven plaintiffs in the 2003 lawsuit still remain in school. Six have graduated, and the teacher-adviser for the Gay-Straight Alliance club asked to transfer to another campus.
The ACLU's Esseks is now questioning whether the mandatory video meets the decree's required hour of anti-harassment training. Like one-third of the students in Boyd County schools, he has yet to view it.
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Jesus said: "And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Wherefore, they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder." -from THE BIBLE: Matthew 19:4-6
Cindy you want to lose a public debate with these people just start quoting scripture. I remember when the Massachusetts ruling had just been handed down and Hannity had Falwell debating Candace Gingrich on the Sean Show. Falwell went for the Old Testament and made a fool of himself whilst dear little Candace ("The Accidental Activist") got to play the voice of sweet reason. I was embarrassed and furious at Sean for setting this up.
I have told my son he can walk out of stuff like this and call me to come get him. He don't need to be tolerant of this crap. What next Debbie does Dallas?
Everyone should check this out! We must get rid of these evil-doers.
http://www.stoptheaclu.org/
I checked out the site and, sorry, but I'm not impressed. Letter-writing, marching and signing petitions (and praying) are NOT going to impress these lowlifes. They don't give a damn if a million people march against them, even a hundred million. That they don't believe in the democratic process is a given. If you can't take them on in the courts you can't do anything and I don't mean waging a DEFENSIVE battle either. We didn't start regaining our 2nd Amendment rights until the NRA and friends started pushing back in the courts and ballot boxes.
The ACLJ (http://www.aclj.org) is one of them.
Hmmm ... the FR auto-URL maker didn't work because of the parentheses I used. Let's try that again --- http://www.aclj.org
The correct response is to find a storefront and let the townspeople know that their school will be boycotted and their school taxes will not be paid until this nonsense stops...and to use the storefront to continue educating the students as best as possible (for all boycotting students)until the school district understands the message loud and clear.
Just watch what happens when school attendance drops to a trickle and concerned parents are pitching in together to create an alternative school.
Perhaps, as a class project, the students can build a nativity scene to display in a city park, just to give the ACLU one more thing to get uppity about.
Could have been worse -- the film could have been Mommy Dearest.
Get a grip, parson!
Parent's ain't got no rights in gubbamint skrewels.
If you really wanna make a difference, tell your congregants to yank their kids out of Caesar's school system. If all Christians did that, you'd see change overnite.
THIS IS IMPORTANT
What stops most attacks on the ACLU is that most people don't understand how the ACLU functions. It is not the ACLU, as an organization, that will take the school district to court, nor is it even a lawyer on their payroll. The lawyers are private lawyers that may or may not even be members of the ACLU. Typically, the board of directors of the local ACLU chapter vote to support the litigation on a particular matter and then select a cooperating local attorney to handle the litigation. These lawyers rarely do it pro-bono, nor is it mandatory that the lawyer even be a member of the ACLU.
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?
It means we are fighting individuals persons who live locally, not some all-powerful NY City monolith that is far removed from where the action is. The ACLU board members are local persons, the attorneys litigating the matter are local persons. Their friends in the judiciary are local persons. All these individuals can be exposed to their friends, neighbors, co-workers, business associates, customers, etc. Their history of other anti-American activity can be researched and exposed, whether criminal or political (and trust me, many on local ACLU boards WILL have a history they'd just as soon didn't get out).
WHAT DO I DO?
As crazy as it sounds, the first thing you do is join the ACLU. Then begin attending their monthly board of director meetings (their own membership would string them up if they tried to keep you out). If you've got a pair hanging, you might even run for the board and serve, it's a pretty easy thing to do and it will produce a wealth of valuable information. Find out who is on the board and who the most active members are. They love to brag, so hang around afterwards or go to fund raising dinners or ACLU socials, and you'll soon learn much of their political life history.
Find out who the most active local attorneys are and what their special interest is. Listen up, you'll find out who in the local federal and state judiciary are ACLU members or contributors. Begin doing research on these members, board of directors, cooperating attorneys and judges. Use the internet and go to your local newspapers and search through their archives. Check out your local university in the sociology, anthropology, psych and history departments. Check out "activism, local" in your university library stacks. Make friends with some local beat cops and ask them who on the force knows the most about the activity of these radicals. Try doing some "garbology" (look it up), run their names through a local credit check, photograph them with a prostitute, follow them to their teenage mistress's apartment, I don't care what you do, just do whatever it takes to dig up the dirt that these leftist POS always leave strewn behind them, and use it to destroy them!
NEVER FORGET, THESE SCUM ARE VULNERABLE!!
But they will continue spreading their disease until YOU get off your duff and bring them down. They are cockroaches that can't stand the light of day on their activities. Make yourself that light! This isn't a full-time occupation, it can be done as a hobby, with only a few hours per week of your time invested. Team up with other FReepers in your area to share the work load and fun.
Don't wait until the ACLU brings a major issue (like the thread article) to your city, join...err...infiltrate the ACLU today! Be ready to strike.
--Boot Hill
And the Teachers Union supports which political party again?
Now that is some great subversive info!
Don't wait until the ACLU brings a major issue (like the thread article) to your city, join...err...infiltrate the ACLU today! Be ready to strike.
Now you're talking my language! Know your enemy. Can you by any chance recommend any titles that have been written on this subject?
--Boot Hill
Hmmm, the ACLU is trying to force a schools system just 45 miles away from my home into showing a "tolerance" video about queers huh?
Sounds like I need to rally the local "redneck" militia to have a "warm" meeting with the local ACLU chapter...
I remember about 4 years ago, these "Ass Clowns" filed a lawsuit against the local court system, because they had displayed the Ten Commandments in the courthhouse. The suit was initiated by the complaint of a local pediatrician and her lawyer/college professor husband.
Well, being a pharmaceutical salesman, I've called on this "hippy", and I do mean hippy...I was in her office one day making a "call" and for some reason, she reached overhead to get something...I saw the most revolting thing, which traumatized me for days....HAIRY ARMPITS!!! I was so revolted, I said, "sign this doc" and fled the building!
Of course, her husband was a big Vietnam protester...back in the day. I had him for a class, and later that year when the yearbook came out, there was an article in it about how he "was proud of his activism during the war..." Until that point, I could not figure out why he was such an ass toward me in class. Then, I figured it might be because I was in ROTC, and had to wear my uniform to class twice a week...I dropped the class the day I read that article, then I told him what I thought of him!
Needless to say but, his wife the doctor, still uses her "maiden name", and he's still an asshole!
Lastly, the local courts "pulled a fast one" on the ACLU...they displayed the Ten Commandments IN THE COURTHOUSE, as "historical documents", along with copies of the: Magna Carta, Declaration of Independance, Bill of Rights, Constitution, etc....problem solved...at least the state courts threw out the lawsuit! Hahahaha! Pretty clever for an area the world thinks is full of a bunch of "dumb hillbillies!"
No doubt he recycles the same 'fact', 'expert testimony' and 'argument'...
Cut off the head and the body will die...
Eerie. Kind of like if German students were FORCED to watch Hitler's speeches...
This kind of infiltration is not an endeavor that lends itself well to "How To" publications, it is basically done on an OJT basis by a person that can think quickly on his or her feet, and can create opportunities where others see none, and can lie his freakin' head off when the occasion warrants.
--Boot Hill
We need to be aware of these liberal Nazis. Their strongarm tactics are reminiscent of fascism.
The ACLU needs to be reminded it is not a government agency (though it is being financed by taxpayers).
The ACLU is drunk with its self-generated power over American culture.
All the ACLU needs now are jackboots and arm bands.
It's still bad in the US. Ever heard of "Channel One?" Captive audience advertising and propaganda.
The only thing that can save Christianity and America is a gigantic rising up against the evil forces of ACLUism....in other words a gigantic "acting up' in ever filthy ACLU trash hole that passes for an office.
All our political leaders need to be contacted in order to tell them that we want this outlaw organization, that hids within our system of laws, outlawed and made to disappear from our country.
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