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A.D., B.C. - not P.C.
The American Thinker ^ | November 18th, 2004 | Selwyn Duke

Posted on 11/18/2004 10:39:06 AM PST by .cnI redruM

Our civilization is suffering what could be called a cultural death by a thousand cuts. The open sores are ubiquitous, but what happens to irk me at this moment is that quite some time ago I learned that my birth date is not what my parents always told me it was. Moreover, no one else’s is either. You see, those who are contemptuous of tradition have decided to take it upon themselves to change our calendar and replace B.C. [Before Christ] and A.D. [Anno Domini] with B.C.E. [Before the Common Era] and C.E. [The Common Era].

The latter two designations probably aren’t new to you, since they have found favor with pseudo-intellectual academics and seem to be in every new documentary and in many new books. And if you’re taking the time to read this, the reasoning behind their adoption probably isn’t new to you either. The idea is that B.C. and A.D. are reflective of Christianity, and since not everyone is Christian, it’s insensitive and religio-centric to use them. Well, mercy me! We’ll just have to relegate our culture to the dustbin of history lest we offend someone with our existence. After all, it’s obviously better to perish as a civilization than to meet our maker with the burden of having offended someone weighing on our souls.

All joking aside, their reasoning is the epitome of specious logic. B.C. and A.D. certainly are reflective of Christianity, but everything is reflective of something. For instance, since we’re talking about our calendar, it’s instructive to note that every single month’s name is of Roman origin. A few examples: July and August were named after Julius and Augustus Caesar. January and March were named after Janus and Mars, the Roman pagan gods of war, and of gates and doors and entrances and exits, respectively. September, November and December are named after the Latin [which was the language the Romans spoke] words for seven, nine and ten, respectively. Should we rename our months? After all, relatively few people are of Roman descent.

Then there’s the fact that we use the Roman alphabet [although they learned it from the Etruscans] and Arabic numerals [invented by the Hindus, most likely]. Yet, I never hear anyone say that we should dispense with those designations because they might offend those not of Roman, Etruscan, Arabic or Hindu lineage. Or, how about the fact that English, which is spoken in all corners of the Earth now, bears the name of a people on a small island in the Atlantic?

And what about our cities and states? Many of them bear names that are reflective of Christian influence: Los Angeles [the Angels], Sacramento [the Sacraments] and Corpus Christi [the Body of Christ], to name a few. But, then, some are reflective of French influence, such as Baton Rouge and Louisiana; some are reflective of American Indian influence, such as Chappaqua, Saratoga, Illinois, Texas and twenty-five other states; some are reflective of Spanish influence, such as Palo Alto, Los Alamos and over two-thousand other places. And, of course, there’s the fact that our country was named after the explorer Amerigo Vespucci. There go those Italians again, hogging all the influence.

Methinks much offense can be taken, so some remedial action is in order. Here are my suggestions: our months should be renamed and referred to as “Common Month One,” “Common Month Two,” etc. Then, our alphabet can be called “the Common Alphabet,” our numbers “the Common Numerals” and English “the Common Language.” Then we must resolve to rename our states “Common State One,” “Common State two,” all the way up to fifty, assigning them the Common Numbers based on the order in which they entered our Common Union. The end of this good start – but only the beginning of a journey toward total sensitivity – will be to take the lead among nations and rename America “Common Nation 192.” Why Common Number 192? Well, that’s how many nations exist at present, and we wouldn’t want to be so insensitive as to take Common Number One for ourselves simply because we were so privileged as to be sensitive first. Now, I don’t expect other nations to follow suit immediately, but I reckon that when our common-sense extends across the Common Oceans and to the common folk, Common Continents one through six will become sensitized to sensitivity.

But my sense of whimsy has gotten the better of me. So, let’s transition from the ridiculous to the sublime . . . about the ridiculous. In reality, none of the above would work because the salient point is, once again, that EVERYTHING is reflective of something. If you’re going to name something the Common Era, you must ask, common to whom? After all, our calendar [the Gregorian] is not the only one in existence. Jews, the Eastern Orthodox Churches, Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs, Zoroastrians and others have their own calendars, and I’m confident that we could find some devout Jews and Muslims who would maintain that our Gregorian calendar isn’t common to them.

Of course, the question that most begs to be asked here is, what event are we dating the Common Era from? Answer: the approximate birth date of Jesus of Nazareth! To try to obscure that fact and erase our past by manipulating terminology is dishonest, and is another example of the most invidious sort of revisionist history. Moreover, the reasoning behind this element of social-engineering is so flawed and involves such an obvious double-standard that it could only be accepted by second-rate minds. It so drips of contempt for tradition and Christianity that it could only be truly palatable to a bigot. That’s why it may seem ironic that it was originated by a few theologians, but it isn’t really. For, there are some ideas that are so irreligious that only a theologian could think of them.

Before I conclude, I must add that you don’t have to be religious to consider this change to be an affront; you simply have to be an American who cares about his culture and traditions. And we should be mindful of the fact that other nations do not share the disordered compulsion to relinquish their culture for fear of offending others. Now, the question is, since taking this leaf out of their book is a prerequisite for our national survival, do we have the capacity to cultivate the same strength in ourselves?

Well, a good first step toward that goal is understanding the following: everything offends someone and most everyone is offended by something. Why, I’m offended by the fact that cultural terrorists are denuding our cultural landscape of the things closest to the American heart. The fact is that what’s offensive is very subjective. This explains why our preoccupation with avoiding giving offense has degenerated into a never-ending battle that inures us to untruth, injustice and the un-American way.

Could you imagine the Islamic world shedding its traditions under the pretext of tolerance and sensitivity? Are we, for some inexplicable reason, to be the only nation that has no right to its culture? A.D. and B.C. have been in use for fifteen-hundred years. For some left-wing academics to come along and presume that they have a right to remake this and whatever else doesn’t suit their transitory fancies is outrageous. It’s almost as outrageous as the fact that most of us stand idly by and do nothing to resist their machinations. It is not only our right but our duty to protect the great and good that dozens of generations of our ancestors have bequeathed to us. And we would do well to remember that civilizations rise and fall; they are born, mature, age and die. If we want to preserve ours, we had better stand and be counted and tend to her cultural health. If we will not, perhaps it really is our time to walk quietly into the night. And if so, our epitaph just may read: Oh, principled were we, we wouldn’t bend, we were sensitive till the end.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: archaeology; culturewars; diversity; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; history; multiculturalism; pc; purge; sensitivity; toughness
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To: FreedomCalls
You can no more have a zero year than you can have a zero month or day.

Since a year's designation is simply a name, why couldn't someone name a specific year "0?" You seem to think that some sort of natural law will be violated, without realizing that year designations are completely man-made and can be anything the designators desire.

As for your contention about the first of the month or the first of the year being designated "0," that would be all well and good if one could then designate all the days prior to that date as negative numbers, which is the impetus behind designating a year 0.

I think that, once you get beyond this "ordinal/cardinal" hangup, you'd realize it's not that big a deal what a year is called.

141 posted on 11/18/2004 4:47:42 PM PST by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: .cnI redruM

A.D. baby! It's right there in my handle!


142 posted on 11/18/2004 4:48:52 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: jim35

First step is to boldly use BC and AD whenenever and whereever you can, and furthermore, wherever possible, to make it apparent that is was not an "oversight" but a very wilful usage.


143 posted on 11/18/2004 4:51:18 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Junior
Todays date = MJD 53327.829398

Interesting read

144 posted on 11/18/2004 5:00:00 PM PST by ASA Vet ("The ones who are usually seriously deranged always seem to be in their 50s" - sam_whiskey)
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To: paudio; All

That's what I always thought it meant. Most people down south think that already! :)


146 posted on 11/18/2004 5:39:05 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (NO BLOOD FOR CHOCOLATE! Get the UN-ignoring, unilateralist Frogs out of Ivory Coast!)
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To: Professional Engineer
I could deal with that. Rome dated ab urbe condida.
147 posted on 11/18/2004 5:54:16 PM PST by .cnI redruM (Idiots so love to bury a god. - Charles Buckowski)
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To: Junior
Yeah, the whole lack of a year zero takes a year out of history.
148 posted on 11/18/2004 5:56:13 PM PST by .cnI redruM (Idiots so love to bury a god. - Charles Buckowski)
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To: Junior
"... negative numbers, which is the impetus behind designating a year 0."

What about the First Century BC? You want to change that to Century 0?

149 posted on 11/18/2004 6:08:53 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: .cnI redruM

I will say "A.D." and "B.C." until the day I die.


150 posted on 11/18/2004 6:45:01 PM PST by Holden Magroin
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To: Professional Engineer
Oh, you don't like this? Suck lemons

LOL. So how do you really feel.

151 posted on 11/18/2004 6:55:45 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: tjwmason

Good points. I picked 1776 due to widespread public knowledge. The Christian calender serves well for an even more well known frame of reference.


152 posted on 11/18/2004 8:02:36 PM PST by Professional Engineer (What happens when you get an Electrical Engineer wet?)
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To: jim35
what DOES happen when you get an electrical engineer wet?

he Sparksalot.

Thank you, thank you. I'll be here until Thursday.

153 posted on 11/18/2004 8:19:11 PM PST by Professional Engineer (What happens when you get an Electrical Engineer wet?)
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To: snippy_about_it

LOL


154 posted on 11/18/2004 8:19:39 PM PST by Professional Engineer (What happens when you get an Electrical Engineer wet?)
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To: priceofreedom

"I just choose to not refer to Jesus as "Christ" because it goes against what I believe in. I posted earlier that if I was Christian I would use BC/AD but because of my faith I do not. An example would be 2004 A.D.M.(Mohammed) how would that make you feel? (Not that I equate Jesus whom I look upon as a righteous man, a rabbi and a scholar as the same as Mohammed), but I do not see either as more than mortal. Please do not be angry about my example there is no equating the 2."

I think it very significant that Christ is the great benchmark of human history. Modern Jewish theology holds that the Messiah is only a natural man. Rabbis claim the Messiah/Christ is not the Son of God, or divine in any sense. I couldn’t disagree more.

A bit of theology on Gen. 3:15. The progenitors of the human race sinned in the Garden. A prophecy (Gen. 3:15), the first prophecy of the bible, was then given, the scope of which is the general history of man. Sin brought the need for messianic redemption. The Messiah is not just a Jewish figure, we all need a savior.

The prophecy, in symbolic representation, was about the “seed of the woman,” i.e., Christ. Supernatural birth is indicated, the virgin birth, women do not have “seed.” The “seed of the woman” would not have a natural father, he would be the Son of God.

The heel and head in the prophecy: Christ would suffer in the fight for our redemption, his heel would be wounded in the struggle with the serpent, the enemy of our redemption. However the serpent gets his head stepped on. The contrast in the head and heel is one wound is fatal, the other is not. Mel Gibson’s “Passion” was about the suffering of Christ, not fatal, however. Christ defeated sin and the devil bringing redemption for all of us descendants of Adam.

So the scope is bigger than just Jewish Messianism – you mentioned Islam, certainly bigger than any “Mahdi” or Messiah they may come up with. There has only been one born without a natural father, Christ, the Son of God, He trumps every Messiah that man might come up with. No need to look for another “seed of the woman,” He has already come. What Christ wrought was the central event of human history, central to Jews, Christians, Muslims, whatever. Took a while to get here, but maybe you can see my point on why I believe Christ’s death and resurrection 1,970 years ago is the rightful, predestined by God, benchmark of human history.


155 posted on 11/18/2004 8:47:27 PM PST by sasportas
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To: Junior

>>Counting starts at 0 (0-9, 10-19, 20-29, etc.).

No. Counting numbers start at 1.


156 posted on 11/18/2004 10:00:37 PM PST by Baraonda (I'm a Reagan/Nixon/Pat Nixon fan.)
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To: malakhi
Turn the other cheek, don't be angry with your brother, etc.

"Turning the other cheek" refers to bearing personal insults. This CE nonsense isn't an attack on me. It's an attempt to diminish the greatest event in history, the birth of Christ. Christians are obligated to defend Christ.

Righteous anger in the defense of Christ, or directed against evil, is no vice. Remember that Christ drove the moneychangers out of the temple with a bullwhip.

With regard to my original statement, How exactly can a person physically stick "CE" (words denoting an idea) where the sun don't shine? It's a figurative statement, and in that sense, it's an appropriate statement, since the motivation of those promoting this idea is evil, if not demonic, since people of other religions can use their own calendar. There's no need to bastardize the Christian one.

157 posted on 11/19/2004 4:54:46 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Familiar, eh? 8~)

Haven't run into this problem since we're homeschooling. But this bogus convention makes my blood boil. I'm glad you did what you did. It's entirely appropriate. It's a matter of spiritual discernment, I suppose. You know what it's about, and you acted accordingly.

158 posted on 11/19/2004 4:59:25 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Ichneumon
Oh, yeah, that'll give people a good impression of Christians...

"Uphold me according unto thy word, that I may live: and let me not be ashamed of my hope." -- Psalm 119:116

159 posted on 11/19/2004 6:52:02 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: Aquinasfan
It's a figurative statement...

And a darn good one. 8~)

160 posted on 11/19/2004 6:53:53 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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