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Reverse Roe Effect?
OpinionJournal (WSJ Online) ^ | 11/16/2004 | JAMES TARANTO

Posted on 11/16/2004 1:44:24 PM PST by Steel and Fire and Stone

We're not sure we agree. It's doubtless true that if Roe is overturned, some women seeking abortions would travel to states where it's legal, as they did in the olden days before 1973. But it's hard to imagine that people would vote with their fetus to such a degree that they'd decide where to live in the hope of aborting future pregnancies.

Still, what if they do? In the short term, it would increase the population of states like Connecticut, while making "red" states even redder. But in the long run it'd be hard to sustain a culture that defines itself by the refusal to reproduce. They may not be celibate, but after a few generations (or the lack thereof) Haar's movers would look a lot like Shakers.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; antiabortion; jamestaranto; prochoice; prolife; roe; roeeffect; roevwade
Taranto has been saying for some time that part of the leftist Democrat, pro-abortion coalition's problem is a declining base due to a perverse "natural selection". In other words, their supporters abort their babies. Conservatives like kids enough not to kill 'em, and even adopt when we can.

Which made me think of an interesting bumper sticker:

"Protect a woman's right to chooose. Have babies who feel the same way!"

Well.. from the peanut gallery...

SFS

1 posted on 11/16/2004 1:44:26 PM PST by Steel and Fire and Stone
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To: Steel and Fire and Stone
They may not be celibate, but after a few generations (or the lack thereof) Haar's movers would look a lot like Shakers.

Now THAT's witty! Bump for Shaker humor!

2 posted on 11/16/2004 1:50:02 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Hah! I also liked the "vote with their fetus" line.
3 posted on 11/16/2004 1:50:55 PM PST by Jokelahoma (Animal testing is a bad idea. They get all nervous and give wrong answers.)
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To: Steel and Fire and Stone
Yep, you cannot sustain a civilization which prevents itself from reproducing. Such is also the argument against normalizing homosexual "lifestyles".
4 posted on 11/16/2004 1:52:45 PM PST by lormand (Dead People Vote DemocRAT)
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To: Steel and Fire and Stone

If Roe v Wade can't be overturned, maybe we should just let the leftists 'select' themselves out of existence.


5 posted on 11/16/2004 1:53:11 PM PST by MEGoody (Way to go, America! 4 more years!)
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To: Steel and Fire and Stone

I think Taranto has also elsewhere made the point that, without abortion, there'd have been many millions more children born to Dimocrats over the past 30-odd years, a sizable proportion of whom would have voted in the recent election.

What could Kerry have done with say another 10 million votes?
Don't you love the irony?


6 posted on 11/16/2004 1:53:56 PM PST by Redbob
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To: Steel and Fire and Stone
In the short term, it would increase the population of states like Connecticut...

Pffft Yeah, like the state you "chose" to live in has little to do with where you were born, where your family lives, and economic conditions (like where you can find work). No, no, it's mostly about where you can find an abortion.

7 posted on 11/16/2004 2:00:06 PM PST by delacoert (imperat animus corpori, et paretur statim: imperat animus sibi, et resistitur. -AUGUSTINI)
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To: Redbob

Problem with this theory:
Liberal people often become conservative once they have kids.


8 posted on 11/16/2004 2:00:56 PM PST by dangus
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To: Redbob

There's no way of being sure about the kids voting the same as the parents, though. A lot of kids vote very differently from their parents - just being raised by a Republican doesn't mean that the kid will vote Republican. If the kids is rebellious he may have voted for Kerry or even Nader.

LQ


9 posted on 11/16/2004 2:00:58 PM PST by LizardQueen
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To: Steel and Fire and Stone; 2nd amendment mama; A2J; Agitate; Alouette; Annie03; aposiopetic; ...

ProLife Ping!

If anyone wants on or off my ProLife Ping List, please notify me here or by freepmail.

10 posted on 11/16/2004 2:20:06 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Hey Kerry: Confucius say "KA-STANG!! YOU BUSTED!")
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To: Steel and Fire and Stone
In the short term, it would increase the population of states like Connecticut,

This is so not what this state needs. We have enough wacky liberals, we don't want any more!
11 posted on 11/16/2004 2:55:24 PM PST by Rubber_Duckie_27
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To: LizardQueen

My rebellious middle daughter rejects all my teaching. She voted for Kerry, hates Bush, supports gay marriage...If I'm for it, she has to be against it. My oldest and youngest are to the right of me, and that isn't easy. I'll take two out of three anytime.


12 posted on 11/16/2004 3:21:14 PM PST by Luke21
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To: Steel and Fire and Stone

The red states have higher birth rates than the blue state. Utah has the highest birth rate in the nation.


13 posted on 11/16/2004 3:22:57 PM PST by tellw
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To: MEGoody

I figured out a while back that we should just let these commie places like Berkely, CA and Takoma Park, MD go on along with their pro-abortion, pro-homosexual agendas and in 20 years there wouldn't be any of them left. Queers won't have kids and the others will murder most of theirs, so - problem solved!


14 posted on 11/16/2004 3:48:44 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: Emmett McCarthy

Dreadful way to wipe them out.

Even liberal's kids should be given the benefit of the doubt.


15 posted on 11/16/2004 3:59:13 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (Stop Hillary - PEGGY NOONAN '08)
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To: Steel and Fire and Stone


16 posted on 11/16/2004 4:19:01 PM PST by ppaul
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To: Emmett McCarthy
Queers won't have kids and the others will murder most of theirs, so - problem solved!

What I find amusing is that if a 'homosexual gene' is every really identified, it would then be possible to determine if a baby is homosexual before it's born. As per the modern pro-choice ideology, any woman who did not want homosexual children could just have it aborted. This pits two factions of the liberals against each other. :)

17 posted on 11/16/2004 4:51:33 PM PST by nosofar
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To: Aussie Dasher

It's not actually "wiping them out" in any active sense. Not genocidal "cleansing" which I'd never endorse. Just a recognition of what they are, in fact, doing to themselves and their offspring; and we're powerless to stop them anyway. If I sounded cruel, I'm sorry. No child should suffer for the stupidity or selfishness of its parents.


18 posted on 11/16/2004 5:25:06 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: dangus

-"Liberal people often become conservative once they have kids."-

The minute I knew I was pregnant was enough for me to finally take the side of pro-lifers. That's a baby in there, make no mistake!


19 posted on 11/17/2004 8:17:55 AM PST by AmericanChef
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To: Steel and Fire and Stone
...part of the leftist Democrat, pro-abortion coalition's problem is a declining base due to a perverse "natural selection..." Image Hosted by ImageShack.us
20 posted on 12/07/2004 11:22:16 PM PST by Antioch
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