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Vindicating the Serbian People: An 'Aerial' Counter-Attack
Serbianna ^ | Friday, November 12, 2004 | T.V. Weber

Posted on 11/12/2004 5:28:06 AM PST by Calpernia

The last of Clinton’s bombs fell on Serbia over five years ago. But now, America is focused on another war, so that the media in the U.S. can treat Clinton’s debacle in the Balkans, and its ongoing aftermath, as though they were yesterday’s news. It is easy to see why the American public has not yet come to terms with a number of vital issues connected with those events.

Unanswered Questions in the Balkans:

Where is the evidence of “ethnic cleansing” in Kosovo - and where are those “mass graves”?

Each war gets a different media “spin.” The direction of “spin” depends upon whether the media intend to help or to hurt the current administration. For several years, the U.S. media have been relentlessly harping upon the question of Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction, and demanding to know whether any of them have been found. We know that Iraq once had them. We know that they once used them. We know that Iraq did not side with the U.S. in the so-called “war on terrorism.” (Considering that radical factions of Islam have declared war on the U.S., it is a nonsequitor to declare war on a tactic rather than an enemy. See Rip Snortin' Van Winkle & Strange Bedfellows--Then and Now for our earlier comments.) We know that Saddam Hussein publicly offered large sums of money to the families of suicide bombers. Yet we keep encountering the same public expressions of outrage in the U.S. Many continue to ask, “Where are those weapons that were supposed to be in Iraq?”

Well, Serbia was never allied with anyone who attacked the US—never ever! Out of the blue, the Clinton-dominated media began concocting tales of “ethnic cleansing” that accused the Serbs of atrocities comparable to those of the Third Reich. As the war against the Serbian people raged on, the American public was fed a steady diet of what were purported to be “aerial photos of mass graves.” So, five years later, where are those “mass graves”?

Why won’t the current administration in the U.S. denounce Clinton’s support of bin Laden’s allies in the Balkans?

We are getting almost daily reports of the ongoing mess that has followed the Bushes’ war in Iraq. This is a valid concern. Many have pointed out the dismal failure of America’s attempt to force its own idea of “democracy” on the Iraqi people.

But where is the outrage over the mess that US foreign policy has made in Kosovo? The people that the U.S. and its NATO allies were allegedly fighting to protect were, and still are, the worst violators of minority rights on the planet.

Following my article, The Tale of Two Shquiptars, I heard from a number of individuals who claimed to be young Albanians. They all engaged in polite dialog. They all told me, in one way or another, that Islam played no role in the reasons for the conflict between their people and the Serbs in Kosovo. They also scoffed at my claims that al-Qaeda and the KLA had any connection with that war. In every other way, their stories diverged so much that they each seemed to be talking about a different conflict. Most of them asked me to set the folks at Serbianna straight.

After I referred them all to the detailed information available on Emperors Clothes at Bin Laden in the Balkans, none of them could give me a cogent reason to doubt the information presented there. Since then, we have received permission from Emperors Clothes to post the data on our website, www.tvweber.com, also, at www.tvweber.com/binLaden_KLA.htm. So why won’t the current administration in the U.S. denounce Clinton’s support of bin Laden’s allies in the Balkans?

Taking It to the Air

One of the reasons for getting my book to press was that it would afford an opportunity to vindicate the Serbs. The title of the book, The Crumbling Wall Against Tyranny: a/k/a The United States Constitution, does not give the slightest suggestion that there is anything in it that would remotely relate to the Balkans. Even so, in the span of seven pages, the reader sees a clear link between Clinton’s radical Muslim allies in the Balkans and the perpetrators of the 9-11 attack upon the United States. Those tragedies exemplify what can happen when the president is permitted to flout the Constitution with impunity, and to usurp powers not granted to the Presidency under the Constitution.

Using talk radio, we now have a chance to get these messages to the Christian people in America. It is my personal “aerial attack” upon the misinformation and propaganda that bombards us all.

Hence, among the suggested questions for discussion that my publicist sends to radio talk show hosts is: “Why do you call President Clinton, ‘al Qaeda’s man in the White House?’”

With the world listening, I explain in concise, “sound bite” language that Clinton conducted a war against the Christian people of the Balkans, on behalf of bin Laden’s allies. I don’t even need to say the word “Serb.” Some listeners understand immediately; others will need to think about the message first. But a Christian audience should have no trouble getting the message.

If the Crumbling Wall Falls, Tyranny Reigns

My book is about the American system of government, how it should work, and why it no longer works so well. It roundly condemns the actions of those U.S. presidents who have—contrary to their Constitutional status—assumed the powers that allowed Clinton to launch his war against the Serbian people without interference from Congress.

Only Congress has the power to declare war, and there had been no declaration of war, yet Congress sat back and let the war continue. It is illegal for a President to do as Clinton did; yet the American people accepted it. Neither Congress nor the American people attempted to stop him.

The potential for tyranny is great when one man can single-handedly start a war and no one dare raise a hand to stop him.

America at the Crossroads

The bitterness of the 2004 campaign season is one more piece of evidence that the US has lost its Constitutional moorings. Every four years, we can each offer a miniscule degree of input regarding who our next dictator will be. Except for those who have already resigned themselves to the idea of being, in effect, slaves to the government of the United State (intentionally leaving the “s” out of “States), and those who feel that the U.S. is beyond hope, citizens are in absolute horror over the outcome of each election.

With the Clinton administration long out of power, it is time for America to make amends. Both Democrats and Republicans need to take an honest look at Clinton’s failed foreign policy and assume responsibility for setting matters aright.

With the President’s new administration about to begin, there is absolutely NO excuse for retaining anyone in the federal government who still considers the Serbs to be “war criminals,” the Russians to be our “geopolitical rivals,” and the KLA and Bosnian Muslim fanatics to be our “friends.” It is not our purpose to raise the issue of the Constitutional definition of treason, which was once a capital offense rather than a prerequisite for entry into America’s self-styled elite. But it is entirely reasonable to insist that the federal government cease to employ those people in any position of public trust!

The administration needs to look for honest and capable people who are free of racist bigotry against Slavic peoples, and free of religious bigotry against Orthodox Christians. It may even be necessary to recruit candidates from sources other than the Ivy League, the University of Chicago, or the Beltway “think tanks,” which evidently have become breeding grounds for their own particular prejudices and distorted worldviews.

The Serbs have been an ally of the U.S. since there was a free Serbia in the 19th century. Isn’t it time to renounce Clinton’s failed Balkans policy, apologize to the Serbian people, and restore the lands that they have lost due to the wrongful intervention of the American military?

If not, let us remind you of the slogan, “Serbia, the land where empires die.” Who would have expected the once-mighty empire of the Ottoman Turks, the Austro-Hungarian empire of the Hapsburgs, and the formidable Nazi empire of the Third Reich, all to become extinct after picking on tiny Serbia? On what basis do the American government and people claim to be the sole exception to the principles of history and of common sense that apply to everyone else? Is America too blinded by vainglorious pride to see that it is following the same downhill path that landed its old enemies in the dustbin of history?

Far better for the US to swallow its national pride, repent of its errors, and join hands with Serbia in heartfelt cooperation—so that al-Qaeda can be the next empire to die in the Balkans rather than America’s empire.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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To: mark502inf
Mark, as promissed, the pics.

Before the war broke out, KLA wore civilian clothes with and without red UCK badges, German field jackets, black unoforms, woodlad disruptive pattern, salamander patern etc.

Here are some of the samples:

This photo of KLA in CIVILIAN CLOTHES was taken in Racak January 16th.

Caption reads:

A MEMBER of the Kosovo Liberation Army walks past a body of a villager from Racak who was found in a ditch with at least another 22 bodies of ethnic Albanians at the site of recent fighting in southern Kosovo. (REUTERS)

So much of KLA ALWAYS wearing uniforms.

There are many other pics awailable on the net with KLA in civilian clothes.

This is KLA in SKI MASK.

This is KLA in woodland similar to VJ pattern:

This is KLA in blue uniforms similar to Serbian Police.

BROTHERS IN ARMS

341 posted on 11/19/2004 10:30:18 PM PST by DTA (proud pajamista)
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To: Destro; DTA
See, if the NATO mission was honest - designed to end the wrong doing on both sides equally - without agenda - it would be a noble thing.

Vance and Owen tried that in former Y. The US constantly undermined their efforts. But I know where you are coming from. My fave (sarcasm) fellow in the last pic DTA posted in #341, Agim Ceku (the one between the "good" Brit general and the "crazy" American general), is reponsible for far worse than what is alleged to have happened in Racak, yet NATO made him commander of the KPC. And made the purported sealed ICTY indictment against him for Medak (and possibly Storm) go away, I suppose. The leaders of my country were right to condemn atrocities committed by Serbs. They were wrong not to condemn atrocities against Serbs. Hypocrisy is not pretty.

342 posted on 11/20/2004 4:23:11 AM PST by wonders (We don't need no stinkin' badges.)
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To: Paratrooper_501; wonders; Wraith; DTA; joan; Hoplite; Balkans
Thanks for the clarification. Indeed it does seem you were there when you claim you were. However, it is fairly clear from a close reading of your posts that you were terribly naive about the KLA 'Police'.

Relying on a KLA P.O. for information is remarkable. Questioning villagers about the loyalities in the prescence of KLA, is simply 'not good detective work'.

Wraith may have a much more subtle understanding of what is likely to have happened.

...........I have seen the dirty side of the KLA and its not very pretty. This was going on even while you were conducting your KDOM patrols. Yes the Stemlje, Racak villagers supported the KLA but feared them as well. Considering the majority of the population were pro LDK i.e. Rugova. When you said that Buja was looking for volunteers It amused me because Shukri Buja does not ask he insists. There were 45 dead villagers found at Racak and by Buja's own admission an equal number of his KLA fighters of which 11 were killed. The real strange thing was that the 11 dead KLA were removed and buried in a village not far from Racak. No KLA bodies to suggest the villagers had posed resistance to the VJ and MUP. The Racak villger's knew the VJ and MUP were coming. The sound of heavy military equipment could be heard for miles. The Albanian grape vine is a very efficient thing especialy when bad news was on the horizon. The 45 villagers remained in Racak because Buja's KLA made them. It made no sence to hang around while the majority of the village took off for the safety of Stimlje unless you had approx. 45 armed KLA keeping you there. I find it very interesting that the majority of the deaths were the villagers and not the KLA. This is because these 45 LDK supporters were simply fodder for the KLA cause and would not be missed..................

343 posted on 11/21/2004 5:22:49 AM PST by ehoxha
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To: Wraith
So Wraith - in the end, what's the difference between your line of BS and that of our other "on the scene" Kosovo expert, Fusion?

You've come off as nothing less than a poor imitation of Dority's alter ego - maybe you should ping him at his 'jomini' user account for some pointers for use on whatever subject you choose to apply your less than adequate talents to next.

344 posted on 11/21/2004 9:54:04 AM PST by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite; Paratrooper_501; wonders; DTA; ehoxha; Balkans; joan; Destro; Jane_N; Jomini
Well Hoplite I thought some doctor would have removed that bolt stuck in your forehead by now. Sour grapes old boy? That's one thing that's predictable about an individual with an ego like yours, their is always sour grapes after the tantrum. Life's to short Hoplite so back under your rock where you can continue that conversation with your only follower, yourself.

Bye bye diaper boy.
345 posted on 11/21/2004 11:28:46 AM PST by Wraith (Your village called, the idiot is missing.......)
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To: Wraith
Poor Wraith - your 'KVM patrol stopped by the KLA' goes by the boards and all you can think to do is avoid the issue and go on a rant about me throwing a tantrum?

If you were in any Army's military intelligence branch, it was only due to someone's desire to illustrate that tired jibe about it being an oxymoron.

I ask you again, what's the difference between you and Fusion?

346 posted on 11/21/2004 12:47:11 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite; wonders; DTA; joan; Balkans; getoffmylawn
Ouch!the venom in you these days. Whats the matter running out of people to fight with you old sod. Sounds like the continuing tantrum is really eating you up. Can't make the world see it your way then the dog gets it again, right? Hoplite their is no issue, you are a simpleton and a very entertaining one at that. Now seriously did you buy shares in "DEPENDS"? would make sense investing in a commodity that you use a lot of. Give my regards to pooky or whats left of the mutt you call a friend and remember "your village called, the idiot is missing".....
347 posted on 11/21/2004 1:22:56 PM PST by Wraith (Your village called, the idiot is missing.......)
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To: Wraith
The world generally does see it my way, Wraith - you're the one trying to sell the counterfactual version of events in regards to Racak, and that, the "hoax" hoax, is the issue.

You're nothing but a BS artist, just like Fusion.

Furthermore, Wraith, you always have been a very poor hand at dispensing insults - give it a rest. It's just another line of endeavor in which your aims are hamstrung by your lack of ablility.

348 posted on 11/21/2004 1:49:27 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite; wonders; DTA; joan; Balkans; getoffmylawn
Hoplite said "The world generally does see it my way"

Gee? Who do you define as the world Hoplite? You can add arrogant and narcissistic to your self description. Do you look at yourself in the mirror each morning to convince yourself that the world "DEPENDS" on you. Pardon the pun? I hope you return as a tape recorder in your next life, you seem to have a talent of believing and repeating what is fed to you. Get over yourself!
349 posted on 11/21/2004 2:09:00 PM PST by Wraith (Your village called, the idiot is missing.......)
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To: wonders

Can you please flag me to any and all mentions of the HVO, HV, VRS, ABiH, etc?


350 posted on 11/21/2004 4:11:16 PM PST by Diocletian
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To: Diocletian

Hi Dio. I'd be most happy to do so. The ones I know about, that is.


351 posted on 11/22/2004 2:55:03 AM PST by wonders (Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives.)
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To: ehoxha; Paratrooper_501; wonders; Wraith; joan; Balkans
Interesting snippet of information regarding Walker.

THE HAGUE -- Tuesday November 23 2004 – Russian General Leonid Ivashov has taken the stand for the defence in the trial of Slobodan Milosevic before the Hague Tribunal.

The former commander of Russia’s international forces, told the court that the head of the 1998-99 Kosovo Verification Mission, William Walker, had said as early as February 12, 1999, that Serbs had no business in the province.

“Walker had already said on February 12, 1999, in answer to my question of what the chances looked for a peaceful resolution to the Kosovo crisis, that there would be an inevitable military intervention in the spring and that Serbs had no business in Kosovo,” said Ivashov.

The witness also told the court that former US Secretary of State Madeleine Albright had personally promised Kosovo Liberation Army leader Hashim Thaci that there would be a referendum on independence for Kosovo if the guerrilla organisation agreed to foreign troops being deployed in the province.

“The Russian General Staff Headquarters had information about 11 camps in Kosovo and northern Albanian were terrorists were being trained. We passed this information to General Wesley Clark with the intention of together putting an end to the Kosovo Liberation Army’s terrorist activities.

“Unfortunately General Clark said that NATO had no good intelligence reports to confirm this, which was simply not true,” said Ivashov.

The witness also told the court that Russian military leaders had spoken to the ambassadors of fifteen Islam countries about the training of terrorists and that the Iranian ambassador had confirmed the participation of Taliban and Al-Qaida members in Kosovo

So much of honest brokers.

352 posted on 11/23/2004 8:23:41 AM PST by DTA (proud pajamista)
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To: DTA; Wraith

It does certainly appear that William Walker and his team compromised themselves


353 posted on 11/23/2004 11:25:22 AM PST by ehoxha
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To: DTA; ehoxha
What you have here is a declaration of motive, an intention to complete and objective. This is why the KLA were so motivated in providing an incident that would be useful in carrying out this intent. What was in it for the KLA, their own country and safe haven to run drugs into Europe. A state run drug Cartel. Oliver North ring a bell. Walker was just another one of these dudes put there to make it happen. It all fits. The Serbs have not business there my ass.
354 posted on 11/24/2004 8:29:36 AM PST by Wraith (Your village called, the idiot is missing.......)
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To: Hoplite; Wraith; getoffmylawn; wonders; Fusion; Incorrigible; DTA
After a long absence from these boards it's good to see that there is at least one place out there where the Racak "massacre" hoax is still rebutted. Other than these FR discussions, I suspect the world is quite content to swallow the deception so adroitly provided by the Congressman and his pals.

The Big House needed justification to go to war and the experts provided it. That's just the way it is in the policy game...

With Mr Fusion's good friend -- "The Modern Day Bismarck" as he used to call him -- reelected, his other friends "The forces of freedom" can get back to work knowing they have a mandate from 59 million people to get the job done. Just as 2001 was eventful in the Balkans so should be 2005.

Wraith, they say that Dority guy Hoplite mentions was in Albania for seven or eight months last year in between trips to Kosovo and Macedonia. They say he has been talking a lot about Bosnia lately and those missing diplomatic passports. Seems those al-Qaeda types like to use them to move around...

Hoplite, a few posts above is the famous picture of Holbrooke when his ego made him bite on the hook. How about using those famous deductive powers of yours and telling us the true identity of the man on Holbrooke's left? You know, "the poet"...

When Holbrooke sat down for that photo the boys were laughing so hard they couldn't see straight. Now everybody five years wiser and about a hundred years more effective. With the MDB back in office and the changes on the Hill it should be a golden age for Mr Fusion and his pals to take that policy ball and run with it...

The Colonel, the Congressman, the Correspondent and the Hawk. Hmmmmmmm maybe it's time to get the band back together again...

You know, the Third World War and all that. By the way, how's that global struggle going?

Hoplite, on a more serious note. In Squad Leader did you ever try and use the German 2-8 LMG to cover your flank? A leader can fire it at one factor, yes?

J

355 posted on 11/29/2004 12:33:40 PM PST by Jomini
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To: Jomini; Paratrooper_501

Nice to see you back Jomini!

I've pinged Paratrooper_501 to your post above.


356 posted on 11/29/2004 12:59:12 PM PST by Incorrigible (immanentizing the eschaton)
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To: Jomini
Greg - since you were Fusion, before having to reincarnate yourself as "Jomini", are you now claiming to be in President Bush's circle of friends?

LOL.

I haven't played squad leader since the early '80's, Greg. Forgive me if I pass on the opportunity to verify a leader counter's crew served weapons capabilities in a game - been there, done that, real world.

357 posted on 11/29/2004 1:23:46 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: Jomini; Balkans; DTA; joan; Destro

Welcome back Fusion !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


358 posted on 11/30/2004 7:10:41 AM PST by ehoxha
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To: jb6; TexasGreg

Ping


359 posted on 12/03/2004 1:56:48 PM PST by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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