Posted on 11/12/2004 5:28:06 AM PST by Calpernia
The last of Clinton’s bombs fell on Serbia over five years ago. But now, America is focused on another war, so that the media in the U.S. can treat Clinton’s debacle in the Balkans, and its ongoing aftermath, as though they were yesterday’s news. It is easy to see why the American public has not yet come to terms with a number of vital issues connected with those events.
Unanswered Questions in the Balkans:
Where is the evidence of “ethnic cleansing” in Kosovo - and where are those “mass graves”?
Each war gets a different media “spin.” The direction of “spin” depends upon whether the media intend to help or to hurt the current administration. For several years, the U.S. media have been relentlessly harping upon the question of Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction, and demanding to know whether any of them have been found. We know that Iraq once had them. We know that they once used them. We know that Iraq did not side with the U.S. in the so-called “war on terrorism.” (Considering that radical factions of Islam have declared war on the U.S., it is a nonsequitor to declare war on a tactic rather than an enemy. See Rip Snortin' Van Winkle & Strange Bedfellows--Then and Now for our earlier comments.) We know that Saddam Hussein publicly offered large sums of money to the families of suicide bombers. Yet we keep encountering the same public expressions of outrage in the U.S. Many continue to ask, “Where are those weapons that were supposed to be in Iraq?”
Well, Serbia was never allied with anyone who attacked the US—never ever! Out of the blue, the Clinton-dominated media began concocting tales of “ethnic cleansing” that accused the Serbs of atrocities comparable to those of the Third Reich. As the war against the Serbian people raged on, the American public was fed a steady diet of what were purported to be “aerial photos of mass graves.” So, five years later, where are those “mass graves”?
Why won’t the current administration in the U.S. denounce Clinton’s support of bin Laden’s allies in the Balkans?
We are getting almost daily reports of the ongoing mess that has followed the Bushes’ war in Iraq. This is a valid concern. Many have pointed out the dismal failure of America’s attempt to force its own idea of “democracy” on the Iraqi people.
But where is the outrage over the mess that US foreign policy has made in Kosovo? The people that the U.S. and its NATO allies were allegedly fighting to protect were, and still are, the worst violators of minority rights on the planet.
Following my article, The Tale of Two Shquiptars, I heard from a number of individuals who claimed to be young Albanians. They all engaged in polite dialog. They all told me, in one way or another, that Islam played no role in the reasons for the conflict between their people and the Serbs in Kosovo. They also scoffed at my claims that al-Qaeda and the KLA had any connection with that war. In every other way, their stories diverged so much that they each seemed to be talking about a different conflict. Most of them asked me to set the folks at Serbianna straight.
After I referred them all to the detailed information available on Emperors Clothes at Bin Laden in the Balkans, none of them could give me a cogent reason to doubt the information presented there. Since then, we have received permission from Emperors Clothes to post the data on our website, www.tvweber.com, also, at www.tvweber.com/binLaden_KLA.htm. So why won’t the current administration in the U.S. denounce Clinton’s support of bin Laden’s allies in the Balkans?
Taking It to the Air
One of the reasons for getting my book to press was that it would afford an opportunity to vindicate the Serbs. The title of the book, The Crumbling Wall Against Tyranny: a/k/a The United States Constitution, does not give the slightest suggestion that there is anything in it that would remotely relate to the Balkans. Even so, in the span of seven pages, the reader sees a clear link between Clinton’s radical Muslim allies in the Balkans and the perpetrators of the 9-11 attack upon the United States. Those tragedies exemplify what can happen when the president is permitted to flout the Constitution with impunity, and to usurp powers not granted to the Presidency under the Constitution.
Using talk radio, we now have a chance to get these messages to the Christian people in America. It is my personal “aerial attack” upon the misinformation and propaganda that bombards us all.
Hence, among the suggested questions for discussion that my publicist sends to radio talk show hosts is: “Why do you call President Clinton, ‘al Qaeda’s man in the White House?’”
With the world listening, I explain in concise, “sound bite” language that Clinton conducted a war against the Christian people of the Balkans, on behalf of bin Laden’s allies. I don’t even need to say the word “Serb.” Some listeners understand immediately; others will need to think about the message first. But a Christian audience should have no trouble getting the message.
If the Crumbling Wall Falls, Tyranny Reigns
My book is about the American system of government, how it should work, and why it no longer works so well. It roundly condemns the actions of those U.S. presidents who have—contrary to their Constitutional status—assumed the powers that allowed Clinton to launch his war against the Serbian people without interference from Congress.
Only Congress has the power to declare war, and there had been no declaration of war, yet Congress sat back and let the war continue. It is illegal for a President to do as Clinton did; yet the American people accepted it. Neither Congress nor the American people attempted to stop him.
The potential for tyranny is great when one man can single-handedly start a war and no one dare raise a hand to stop him.
America at the Crossroads
The bitterness of the 2004 campaign season is one more piece of evidence that the US has lost its Constitutional moorings. Every four years, we can each offer a miniscule degree of input regarding who our next dictator will be. Except for those who have already resigned themselves to the idea of being, in effect, slaves to the government of the United State (intentionally leaving the “s” out of “States), and those who feel that the U.S. is beyond hope, citizens are in absolute horror over the outcome of each election.
With the Clinton administration long out of power, it is time for America to make amends. Both Democrats and Republicans need to take an honest look at Clinton’s failed foreign policy and assume responsibility for setting matters aright.
With the President’s new administration about to begin, there is absolutely NO excuse for retaining anyone in the federal government who still considers the Serbs to be “war criminals,” the Russians to be our “geopolitical rivals,” and the KLA and Bosnian Muslim fanatics to be our “friends.” It is not our purpose to raise the issue of the Constitutional definition of treason, which was once a capital offense rather than a prerequisite for entry into America’s self-styled elite. But it is entirely reasonable to insist that the federal government cease to employ those people in any position of public trust!
The administration needs to look for honest and capable people who are free of racist bigotry against Slavic peoples, and free of religious bigotry against Orthodox Christians. It may even be necessary to recruit candidates from sources other than the Ivy League, the University of Chicago, or the Beltway “think tanks,” which evidently have become breeding grounds for their own particular prejudices and distorted worldviews.
The Serbs have been an ally of the U.S. since there was a free Serbia in the 19th century. Isn’t it time to renounce Clinton’s failed Balkans policy, apologize to the Serbian people, and restore the lands that they have lost due to the wrongful intervention of the American military?
If not, let us remind you of the slogan, “Serbia, the land where empires die.” Who would have expected the once-mighty empire of the Ottoman Turks, the Austro-Hungarian empire of the Hapsburgs, and the formidable Nazi empire of the Third Reich, all to become extinct after picking on tiny Serbia? On what basis do the American government and people claim to be the sole exception to the principles of history and of common sense that apply to everyone else? Is America too blinded by vainglorious pride to see that it is following the same downhill path that landed its old enemies in the dustbin of history?
Far better for the US to swallow its national pride, repent of its errors, and join hands with Serbia in heartfelt cooperation—so that al-Qaeda can be the next empire to die in the Balkans rather than America’s empire.
Actually this version does differ from some reports, but does not differ much from others. (BTW, there are always various versions of events in such situations, as is bound to happen. Ask anyone in law enforcement how many different versions of an accident or crime are recounted by eyewitnesses, and those being eyewitnesses who are honestly reporting what they remember.)
"Shooting from the hills at us" is not at all the same as shooting from the "edge of the ravine" (Paratrooper's words) or from "the top of the hill" (words of HRW witness and very similar to the published account of another witness). The "from the hills" version is more consistent with the accounts from yet other witnesses that they were "told to run" by the Serb police and were then "caught in the crossfire".
The Finnish ballistics report said "the victims were shot at a range of less than 30 metres from the trench and then dumped in it."
As for "humiliated," now that I think about it, I suspect that was an extrapolation from the HRW witness who said the victims were severly beaten with poles and/or planks in the Osmani courtyard before being led away. Dr. Ranta stated there was no evidence of beating or torture, so there could have been no such "wounds" indicating they were "humiliated" if the reporter was going by Dr. Ranta's autopsy report.
Mark, if I really wanted to pick apart that article, I could, starting with Angered by the slaying of three soldiers in Kosovo, the officials ordered government forces to "go in heavy" in a Jan. 15 assault on Racak to search out ethnic Albanian guerrillas believed responsible for the slayings... It was the slaying of policemen, not soldiers. But I'm not interested in just picking apart the article.
Just to set the record straight (not to be nitpicky), I never dealt with any HVO, only HV, ARSK and ABiH. Also, being a civilian, it wasn't my job to deal all that closely with the various parties' military commanders, although at times my duties did require it. And Paratrooper seems quite genuine to me. I don't think he necessarily had to know those particular people.
I don't doubt your identity Paratrooper, but if I still lived in Georgia I'd offer to meet you and verify it for the benefit of the others. But then if they won't believe you as to your identity, they wouldn't believe my verifying it, would they?
Did you see the dead men in a ditch or in the barn? As I remember the photos were taken in a barn.
Just to clarify, did you mean to write MUP/VJ rather than UCK in this sentence? Thank you again for your account. I look forward to more.
Oops, make that "KLA"
Actually, you're right there is a distinction in the statements, but it is a distinction without a difference. One statement refers to distance and the other describes the setting. The two statements are not mutually exclusive; both can be correct.
The forensic team stated that the bodies had been shot where they were found. Bullets and human matter from bullets passing through bodies were found in the ground where the bodies were lying. The forensic team concluded these bullets came from weapons fring into and through people lying on the ground. Ballistic tests found that bullets in the bodies and bullets found in the ground under the bodies came from the same weapons--therefore the people had been killed where their bodies were found.
soory about the mix up w/ the HVO vs. HV..........
Would you say that you dealt with company commander level leaders ?
These would have been precisely Ramush and Drini in 501's OZ. These also were their nom d'guerre. Therefore, the observers would have known them as such.
As for Remi, he was by far the most active local leader, with the most 'activity'. During the time 501 says he was in country - The Government had sucessfully concentrated Remi's fighters -- William Walker (apprantly) went quite often to check up on Remi, being 20-25 minutes drive from Walker's HQ.
I'll give 501 the benefit if the doubt that he wasn't involved with Remi's area, therefore doesn't recognize the name.
However, one does find it odd that 501 hasn't the slightest idea who Ramush and Drini were - These guys were local KLA leaders in the areas 501 says he was working in, who 501 would have had to have liasioned with
Wonders I am curious why you aren't questioning the way in which the evidence was obscured ny Walker and (presumably 501)
wraith why don't you question '501 on the observer patrol that you reported on, which hasn't come up in any of the offical reports ? (if I've recalled your posts correctly it)
501 Why isn't likely that Buja either a) killed those relutant Racak villagers he gangpressed ? b) them them in a tactical position where they would get killed and then finished them off at close range ?
501 - I am sure that you are familiar with the extensive post-war investigations & trials by Kfor and UNMIK which conclusively establish that the KLA systematically murdered Albanian civilians during the very period (Oct '98 - Mar '99) that you were a observer.
Given the dramatic upswing in the Albanian civilian murder rate post June '99 once the KLA had a free hand- Isn't it reasonable to posit that the KLA killed those people at Racak ?
Detailed Body Count of Clinton's Kosovo War
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a39fa5c094b29.htm
KLA killed moderate & loyalist Albanians in 1998 and 1999
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a3a8d74920fd6.htm
KLA Lied says Danny Pearl in WSJ
1999http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a386c976f6ffa.htm
Kosovo- KLA Commander testifys he brought 47 KLA to fight at Racak
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/695375/posts
Kosovo OSCE observers admit to distorting their 'neutral' reports to favour KLA
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/focus/news/650948/posts
Kosovo- Complete Analysis of the Incident at Racak
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/focus/news/686417/posts
Full Text of Finnish Forensic Report Published on Racak - No Massacre
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a3a8e7f557ebf.htm
Albanian rebels swear no one will leave Macedonian village (UCK use their own as human shields)
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a3af1c8cb0465.htm
Racak reports written by the proponents of NATO aggression are even more important. The beauty is that those people can not be accused of being Serb apologists like decent people can -their track record of being rabidly anti-Serb is impeccable.
Here is for example what Alex J. Bellamy from School of Political Science and International Studies , The University of Queensland, Australia wrote in "The Kosovo Verification Mission". He used OSCE, HRW and other skunk sources to conclude:
"However, at 3 p.m. villagers heard shots coming from the direction where the bodies were later found. [i.e. gully - comment DTA]
The men shot in the gully were "taken away by blue-uniformed MUP officers."
At about 4 a.m. villagers discovered the bodies of 45 people scattered on a hillside, 25 together in a small gorge
The KVM's spokesman, Berend Borchardt was amongst this first inspection team [i.e. January 16 -DTA comment]
William Walker arrived at Racak at around midday
Compare this with an IWPR article published February 1, 1999 two weeks after alleged massacre .Gordana Igric claims that :
[E.B., a 40-year-old woman said that] Her 12-year-old son Halim was killed next to her, as they ran together through a courtyard towards a nearby forest
[Speaking of Serbian police, witness E.B. said] : “There were over 40 of them, in blue police uniforms” They fired as soon as we got out of the hideout into the courtyard.
Twenty-three bodies were found early the next morning on the slope of the hill Kodrie Bebushit , outside the village. They had bullet wounds shot through, and traces of torture.
"They [i.e. police- comment DTA] took all of us out into the courtyard and separated us children. They took long wooden planks prepared for making a fire and began to beat the men, who screamed. ”
"But the next morning , the bodies were found on the hill, the body of my father, and the bodies of Sadik, and Jashar and Raif, and Shukrija and Sali and Fatmir and Nexhat.”
During the night the locals who survived got out of hideouts that the police had not reached and began to search for the wounded and the dead with torch-lights. “It was four o’clock in the morning when we came across the body of Bajrushi, Nusret's son,” a visibly distressed 50-year-old S.A. recalls. “Then, one after another, there lay all my relatives. I wanted to cover the dead in accordance with our custom, but someone decided that we should not touch anything until the verifiers have arrived. So we did not touch. We only stood there next to them, waiting for the morning.”
Bloopers and bad directing shows throughout the modified script:
Villagers have heard shots in the gully at 3PM yet it took them 12 hours after police departure to find the bodies (at 4 AM)
The number of the corpses found in the gully is 23, 24 and 25. It seems that different copies of the script were in circullation.
Prior to execution alleged victims were beaten with a heavy object (blunt force injury) and tortured, yet post mortem did not find blunt force injuries. In another IWPR article, Igric quotes a witness who claim that victims were beaten over face and bled. Hovever, there is no traces of bleeding from beating on the garments of the dead found in the gully.
It gets even more interesting - there is allegedly an eyewitness account of execution in the gully
"For six hours, Rame Shabani lay motionless, his face pressed to the dirt, while Serb police and army units shot and mutilated 25 men on a hillside above the Albanian village of Racak. He escaped by throwing himself into a ravine when they opened fire.'...'I heard their screams as they were being massacred. They were begging for their lives,'' Shabani said, sitting cross-legged on the floor of a spartan room decorated only with a photograph of the victims' coffins blanketed with Albanian flags. When they were finished they sang a nationalist song: ``Who is saying, who is lying Serbia is small? Serbia is not small. Serbia is not small.''
Yet, Rame Shabani did not come to alert search party who were searching for the dead with torchlights.
Everyone involved had a reason - police to hide their incapability to find Palme's murderer, liberals to gloat over powerful white male society, fake scientists to push unreliable concepts as facts, perverts to enjoy the corruption of justice. Doctor's life was ruined, only because he was not liked by the community.
The most interesting part was that the murder victim was alive at the time when Doctor allegedly murdered her and Police allowed likely culprit to walk free.
The similarity with Racak is chilling. Liberals will do anything to push their cause. If you have time, read the whole article and share it with Swedish friends. Then ask them if they remember Racak.
it took 18 years for the truth in styckmordet case to come out. We should not wait until 2017. If we do not push it, it will never come out.
sure - Buja and his loonies fired a few bursts after they murdered the gangpreseed (anti-KLA) villagers
Shukri Buja was in fact the KLA commander controlling the KLA activities during the Racak incident. Did you know the KLA tried to stage a similar event some months before in the village of Petrova? You don't know the name of the local KLA commander under Buja in Stimlje? This name is not on the Internet and you would have met/seen him while visiting Racak.
I personally know Keljmendi's widow, a real nice lady.
Do you have any in site about the backlash that occurred between the local Stimlje / Recak villagers and the KLA after the 15th of January?
It sounds like you walk the walk but you have to understand that their are those self proclaimed experts out there on FR that suffer from an accute case of denial and lack of an open mind. A lack of an open mind is defined as taking everything that was spun about the incident as fact from various news sources not to mention the so called official OSCE reports.
Perception is everything when world opinion is at stake. The KLA know this and are masters of deception. The recent attempt to kill the remaining Serbs in Kosovo this past summer by drawing KFOR to Mitrovica is an example of how calculating the KLA are. Racak was no different.
To be honest DTA, I don't really know much about the styckmordet case as I wasn't living in Sweden at the time. It was in the news again a few months back though as a group of doctors wanted it reinvestigated due to discrepencies in investigations. I'll speak to my husband about it as he should know more and read up a little on it too and than get back to you on this if that's ok :)
It's not my word, just my opinion.
soory about the mix up w/ the HVO vs. HV..........
No problem.
I am curious why you aren't questioning the way in which the evidence was obscured ny Walker and (presumably 501)
I've decided to wait on questions until Paratrooper is finished with his narrative. He's already answered several of my questions without my having to ask. Also, the poor guy can't get through it all if questions keep intruding.
Enver, you've failed to support anything you say about Racak. Spam about other events in the region or simply parroting unsupported assertions made by your fellow apologists is not evidence of what happened; although it is pretty convincing evidence of self-induced brain-washing.
Racak happened. Civilians were murdered. Serbs did it. The evidence proves it.
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