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Indonesia's Lost World: Shaking Up The Family Tree (More - New Human Species)
Archaeology ^ | 10-28-2004 | Davisd Keys

Posted on 10/29/2004 2:11:55 PM PDT by blam

Indonesia's Lost World: Shaking Up the Family Tree

October 28, 2004
by David Keys

Homo floresiensis skull (© Peter Brown)

New archaeological discoveries by Australian and Indonesian scientists on the Indonesian island of Flores are revealing that until at least 13,000 to 12,000 years ago, modern humans--our species, Homo sapiens--shared this planet with a totally different species of human being--a three-foot-high dwarf hominid with physical features usually seen as dating from 1.5 to 4 million years ago.

The scientists, mainly from Australia's University of New England and University of Wollongong, have found the skeletal remains of up to seven individuals in a cave at Liang Bua, Flores. Their diminutive stature, small brain size (380 cc), receding chin, the shape of their first mandibular premolar tooth and the skull base design in the ear region are all reminiscent of early Australopithecus, a type of hominid which was thought to have existed only in Africa prior to 3 million years ago.

On the other hand the thickened cranial vault, the relatively flat face, and the smaller molar teeth of what is being called Homo floresiensis are all more reminiscent of Homo erectus, which flourished between 1.8 million and possibly 300,000 years ago.

The newly discovered Flores skeletal material, published this week in the scientific journal Nature, may be from a species which either broke away from our distant ancestor Australopithecus some 3 million years ago or more likely a species derived from a very early form of a later ancestor of ours, Homo erectus.

"The skeletal material we have found has come as a big surprise because hominids of that body size and brain size were supposed to have become extinct 3 million years ago," says excavation member Peter Brown, a physical anthropologist from the University of New England.

It is quite possible that the Homo floresiensis' tiny size--and correspondingly small brain--is a result of being stranded on a small island for tens or hundreds of thousands of years. Because species on small islands are shielded from predators living on mainland areas, large size often becomes redundant as an defensive advantage, and they "shrink" evolutionarily over time.

The archaeological evidence strongly suggests that Homo floresiensis made sophisticated stone tools, including choppers, cutting blades, scrapers, and even spear points, some of which appear to have been hafted onto lengths of wood. These tools are very similar to those made by ordinary Stone Age humans (especially in Europe and North America), and yet the Flores hominid had a brain capacity similar--in terms of ratio to body size--to that of early humans like the Australopithecines and Homo habilis, who made only very rudimentary stone tools. The only other explanation for the presence of such sophisticated stone tools, which were found together with the skeletal material, is that they were produced by Stone Age Homo sapiens--but the earliest of the Flores tools date from 90,000 years ago and Homo sapiens is not currently thought to have arrived in Southeast Asia until 50,000 to 60,000 years ago.

The cave at Liang Bua, Flores, where the discovery was made (POLARIS)

"All the evidence so far indicates that the stone artifacts prior to 12,000 years ago at Liang Bua were all made by Homo floresiensis" says Mike Morwood, an archaeologist from the University of New England, who has been leading the investigations on Flores.

What's more, folklore evidence, which has been gathered by the researchers on the same island, provides the remarkable suggestion that Homo floresiensis may have survived until at least 150 years ago. And zoological evidence from another Indonesian island, Sumatra, suggests that a potentially similar intelligent bipedal species may still be alive and well and living in a remote jungle area.

The local tradition for Homo floresiensis is potentially significant. Villagers in Flores say that up until around 150 years ago, there were small, three-foot-tall hairy "people" who used to steal food from them. Known as the ebu gogos (literally "the grandmothers who eat anything"), they were tolerated by islanders until they stole a baby and ate it. Whether the ebu gogo is pure myth or an accurate recollection of Homo floresiensis is at present unprovable. "The folklore material raises the real possibility that Homo floresiensis actually survived until sometime in the nineteenth century," said excavation member Bert Roberts, a geochronologist at the University of Wollongong who conducted interviews with the villagers earlier this month. "Indeed, there has to be a remote possibility that they still survive today in some remote jungle area of the island."

On Flores, there have been no sightings of such creatures--at least, potentially, since the nineteenth century. However, in the same island chain, on the much larger island of Sumatra to the west, there have in recent years been brief, as yet unpublished sightings by a primatologist and others of a small, hairy four-foot-tall ape-like creature known to local tribesmen as orang pendek--literally "little person." Some zoologists suspect that a few hundred of them survive in the remote jungles of the Sumatran interior, but none have yet been captured or examined by scientists.

The new discoveries are likely to be greeted with immense excitement by the international scientific community.

"We now have to entertain the possibility that somewhere within the islands of southeast Asia, early types of human being--long thought to have been extinct--may indeed still survive," says Robert Kruszynski, a leading anthropologist at the Natural History Museum in London.

David Keys is ARCHAEOLOGY's London correspondent.


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KEYWORDS: archaeology; crevolist; familytree; flores; floresiensis; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; history; hobbit; homofloresiensis; indonesias; lost; mikemorwood; multiregionalism; shaking; up; world
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To: blam

Flores Island

21 posted on 10/29/2004 7:05:59 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

I think Flores Island is in the island chain just above the word Kupang

22 posted on 10/29/2004 7:14:27 PM PDT by blam
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To: Ahban
Kudos! Your "orang pendek" suspicions shared by "some zoologists."
23 posted on 10/29/2004 7:20:27 PM PDT by VadeRetro (A self-reliant conservative citizenry is a better bet than the subjects of an overbearing state. -MS)
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To: rwfromkansas
Another Homo floresiensis article with some new details. You had mentioned an interest.
24 posted on 10/29/2004 7:22:19 PM PDT by VadeRetro (A self-reliant conservative citizenry is a better bet than the subjects of an overbearing state. -MS)
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To: blam

Could they have crossed over from the Asian mainland during an ice age?


25 posted on 10/29/2004 7:38:03 PM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...coming soon!)
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To: blam

It is, I dove off it for several days two years ago.


26 posted on 10/29/2004 7:41:29 PM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...coming soon!)
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To: blam
The local tradition for Homo floresiensis is potentially significant. Villagers in Flores say that up until around 150 years ago, there were small, three-foot-tall hairy "people" who used to steal food from them. Known as the ebu gogos (literally "the grandmothers who eat anything"), they were tolerated by islanders until they stole a baby and ate it. Whether the ebu gogo is pure myth or an accurate recollection of Homo floresiensis is at present unprovable.

There's yet another possibility, comparable to the idea that the dragon legends around the world originated from the dinosaur fossils which people must have been unearthing throughout history. Maybe modern scientists aren't the first to unearth these types of remains on Flores and elsewhere. People find something like this and stories get started.

27 posted on 10/29/2004 7:50:11 PM PDT by VadeRetro (A self-reliant conservative citizenry is a better bet than the subjects of an overbearing state. -MS)
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To: Bob J
"Could they have crossed over from the Asian mainland during an ice age?"

I'm fairly well travelled but I was having trouble placing Flores...That's why I went looking for the maps. It looks like it was part of Sundaland during the Ice Age. These guys haven't been isolated on that island for more that 15,000 years.

28 posted on 10/29/2004 8:32:12 PM PDT by blam
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To: Bob J; VadeRetro
Where Was Atlantis? Sundaland Fits The Bill, Surely!
29 posted on 10/29/2004 8:36:45 PM PDT by blam
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thanks


30 posted on 10/29/2004 9:10:40 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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Just adding this to the GGG homepage, not sending a general distribution. Thanks blam.
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31 posted on 10/29/2004 11:03:21 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: blam
Thank you for the link to the Australian DNA work. With this Flores research, people in Europe and North America may be forced to look at it & take it more seriously. The whole science of human origins has suddenly gotten VERY interesting.

What really sends shivers up my spine is the possiblity that some of these Flores Men might actually be around today, on some remote Indonesian island.

32 posted on 10/30/2004 10:32:50 PM PDT by valkyrieanne (card-carrying South Park Republican)
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"What really sends shivers up my spine is the possiblity that some of these Flores Men might actually be around today, on some remote Indonesian island."

Yup. Would they come under the Endangered Species Act?

33 posted on 10/30/2004 11:45:03 PM PDT by blam
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To: Ichneumon
"We now have to entertain the possibility that somewhere within the islands of southeast Asia, early types of human being--long thought to have been extinct--may indeed still survive,"

Very cool.

So maybe all those stories about hairy wildmen; aka: Abominable Snowmen aren't so far fetched after all. I'd bet my life on it.

34 posted on 11/08/2004 9:30:21 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (Proud member of P.O.O.P., People Offended by Offended People.)
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35 posted on 08/11/2006 10:15:12 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Thursday, August 10, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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a link to one of those older, unkeywordable, unpingable topics:

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36 posted on 08/11/2006 10:19:52 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Thursday, August 10, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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"These fossils, dating from as far back as 60,000 years, had previously been identified as anatomically modern, meaning that they look and function very similarly to the skeletons of people living today."

These remains were redated to 42,000 years old.

37 posted on 08/11/2006 11:17:19 AM PDT by blam
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